who finds this disturbing?

[Vrbovan]

1) you need to read some books.

2) humans arent supposed to eat meat, because our intestinal tract is so long. we're designed to process vegetation. animals can process meat because they are pretty much a straight tube that goes in, and one that comes out.

by the time we eliminate "digested" meat from our bodies, it is ROTTING, and carcinogenic. rotting meat. literally rotting flesh.

keep lying to yourselves, and saying everything is gonna be ok. it's not.
the shit is bad news. not even from an animal rights standpoint, but from a health conscious perspective.

ignorance is bliss.

why do you keep telling people to read?? who the fuck are you? you've read one book and now you're Jesus sent to save the masses from evil meat? people die even in poor contries that eat veggies! if you eat proper ammounts and exercise you can eat whatever the hell you want. and yes it is hippie crap... not science... Its someone who wants to sell books to retards that cant figure out why they're fat.

Its BS like every other diet book aimed a fat asses. And as for my knee jerk response... the only place my knee is going to jerk is into your hippie groin.

[sefb222]

why do you keep telling people to read?? who the fuck are you? you've read one book and now you're Jesus sent to save the masses from evil meat? people die even in poor contries that eat veggies! if you eat proper ammounts and exercise you can eat whatever the hell you what. and yes it is hippie crap... not science... Its someone who wants to sell books to retards that cant figure out why they're fat.

Its BS like every other diet book aimed a fat asses. And as for my knee jerk response... the only place my knee is going to jerk is into your hippie groin.

no, i've read a shit ton of books, and try to finish another every few days.

thats just the simplest, and easiest to get information from, so far as how it's presented.

"dont eat this book", "fast food nation", and "supersize me", etc, are a really good start.

"diet for a new america" is not a diet book, einstein. it's an overall look at the epidemic of obesity, heart disease, and malnutrition, and how it relates to the meat industry.

it also exposes how the USDA has been lying to our kids for several generations, to help generate income for the big money cattle farmers, and dairy farmers.


health and "animal rights" aside

any idea how much water it takes to produce ONE pound of ground beef?



any idea where that water comes from?

it's ecologically irresponsible to eat meat, plain and simple.

meat is a luxury item, and water is a precious natural resource that shouldnt be wasted on something we really dont need.

the reason you're getting so defensive is that you really dont have a leg to stand on in your argument, so you're choosing to be a douchebag instead of providing some facts, or information to back up your statements.

it's typical "rush limbaugh" style.

yawn.


come back to the discussion when you can act like an educated adult

[Vrbovan]

no, i've read a shit ton of books, and try to finish another every few days.

thats just the simplest, and easiest to get information from, so far as how it's presented.

"dont eat this book", "fast food nation", and "supersize me", etc, are a really good start.

"diet for a new america" is not a diet book, einstein. it's an overall look at the epidemic of obesity, heart disease, and malnutrition, and how it relates to the meat industry.

it also exposes how the USDA has been lying to our kids for several generations, to help generate income for the big money cattle farmers, and dairy farmers.


health and "animal rights" aside

any idea how much water it takes to produce ONE pound of ground beef?



any idea where that water comes from?

it's ecologically irresponsible to eat meat, plain and simple.

meat is a luxury item, and water is a precious natural resource that shouldnt be wasted on something we really dont need.

the reason you're getting so defensive is that you really dont have a leg to stand on in your argument, so you're choosing to be a douchebag instead of providing some facts, or information to back up your statements.

it's typical "rush limbaugh" style.

yawn.


come back to the discussion when you can act like an educated adult, and not like a run of the mill republican.

wow nice chart... can we have a pie graph next?? or are we allowed to eat pie?

you have to understand that this garbage only applies to America and not the rest of the world, I have said before that where I grew up and where my family lives in Europe, we farm and produce gennerally what we need and eat. we have our own chickens, pigs, milk cows, geese, you name it.

SO my learned friend it is you who are generalizing, MEAT IS BAD MMMKAY... it is not the fault of meat that America is losing the health battle, it is the fault of diet, mechanized irrisponsible farming, and lack of exercise. my wife eats a typical Moravian dish with sheep cheese, loads of cream, bacon and potatoes, and shes 115 pound and 5'10", BUT she walks to school and rides her bike to get anywhere... its how you live, not what you eat!

It is not hambergers that is bad its portions. but this topic is dead... anyone who hasn't smoked their brain into a hippie stooper understands my point...

[sefb222]

wow nice chart... can we have a pie graph next?? or are we allowed to eat pie?

you have to understand that this garbage only applies to America and not the rest of the world, I have said before that where I grew up and where my family lives in Europe, we farm and produce gennerally what we need and eat. we have our own chickens, pigs, milk cows, geese, you name it.

SO my learned friend it is you who are generalizing, MEAT IS BAD MMMKAY... it is not the fault of meat that America is losing the health battle, it is the fault of diet, mechanized irrisponsible farming, and lack of exercise. my wife eats a typical Moravian dish with sheep cheese, loads of cream, bacon and potatoes, and shes 115 pound and 5'10", BUT she walks to school and rides her bike to get anywhere... its how you live, not what you eat!

It is not hambergers that is bad its portions. but this topic is dead... anyone who hasn't smoked their brain into a hippie stooper understands my point...

it's spelled "stupor"

and no, i dont smoke weed.

it's a shame that you choose to live your life with blinders on. people ignoring information thats out there is kinda scary.


how you live is only part of the equation.

[92 mtechnic cabrio]

your typical american:

- wakes up at 7:30am, drinks a coffee and maybe has a donut or something equally unhealthy

- gets into work at 9am, sits down at his computer in his cubicle

- at 10:30am, has a small unhealthy snack out of the snack machine, then returns to his cubicle

- then at noon, walks across the street to run of the mill fast food resturant, buys a ridiculously unhealthy burger or burrito, and then eats it at his cubicle

- gets another unhealthy snack at 3pm, then back to the cubicle

- and then goes home at 5pm, only to come home and eat yet another unhealthy meal for dinner.

- Then sits on a couch and watches TV until 10pm and goes to bed.

I'd blame the average american's overwhelmingly sedentary lifestyle for our horrible reputation. Sure the meat isn't helping, but I wouldn't point my finger at meat as the reason for our nation's obesity problem.

[Vrbovan]

it's spelled "stupor"

and no, i dont smoke weed.

it's a shame that you choose to live your life with blinders on. people ignoring information thats out there is kinda scary.


how you live is only part of the equation.

sorry English is my second language,,, shall I pick apart your Czech? German? French?... stop being a cock-in-the-face and let people make their own choices.

[OOMPH!]

Not disturbed but now I'm hungry.....

[deutschman]

[quote=Vrbovan;1510814]

the poorest countries, (the ones who cant afford meat, and survive on grains, veggies, etc) are the ones with the lowest obesity, cancer, and heart disease rates.

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Bull Shit! I've lived in poor ass countries teaching english. and their diets are fucked! its got NOTHING to do with meat! its eating like a pig, big portions and sitting in your car to go down the street!

poor people walk, poor people grow their own food. poor people work harder. I''ve got uncles who eat nothing but bacon and sour cream in Europe and they're over 90. so save the hippie crap for people who care...

+1

it's all about moderation.
many people in poor countries also suffer from malnutrition you know...
my german grate grandmother has eaten meat her whole life in moderation and she is 94!!! my other grate grandmother lived to 84 years old.
its about how you eat just as much as what you eat. there are also healthier ways to eat meat then in a mc donalds burger. and the meat you get a a super market is most often treated with a lot of salt and other shit to keep it fresh and red. so if you can try and buy meat localy from a butcher or farmer if you have the option.
humans were ment to eat meat just like chimps and many other grate apes do. again moderation.

[sticksdaman]

MEAT IS THE ENEMY!!!!

.... That's why we should kill it!!

.... And after its dead.. we should... eat the meat... otherwise it'll go to waste

[wildstoats]

People were not "meant" to eat any particular type of food. By nature we are omnivores. Which is one of the reasons there are so many of "us" in the first place.

[mrsleeve]

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2) humans arent supposed to eat meat, because our intestinal tract is so long. we're designed to process vegetation. animals can process meat because they are pretty much a straight tube that goes in, and one that comes out.

ignorance is bliss.

I have read books lots of them, this is a subject that dose not particularly interest me but I do have some knowledge of it

Last time I checked humans are Omnivores that means we can and are supposed to eat anything. Our digestive systems are designed to handle primarily vegetation, nuts, and seeds (the primary diet of the hunter gatherer nomadic people). That is why we have some many broad flat teeth for grinding and crushing. But we are also designed to eat meat as its available or we would not have the sharp cutting and slicing and holding teeth in the front.

DO we eat more meat in this modern day and age than we are evolutionarily designed to? yes prolly. But not all of us show to work at 9am am and sit in a cubical all day either some of us actually still work physically for a living from sun up to sun down and need the large doses of protein to repair muscles, wounds and anything else.

[Miasma]

not all of us show to work at 9am am and sit in a cubical all day either some of us actually still work physically for a living from sun up to sun down and need the large doses of protein to repair muscles, wounds and anything else.

This x100

Not everyone in this country is a lazy, coddled, fatass.

And no I don't think its a disturbing pic, Anyone who has field dressed an animal will more than likely say the same. I actually really enjoy cooking, I have been looking into going to the Texas Culinary Acadmey(Austin). Pending my lady finishing school.

[884door]

2) humans arent supposed to eat meat, because our intestinal tract is so long. we're designed to process vegetation. animals can process meat because they are pretty much a straight tube that goes in, and one that comes out.

by the time we eliminate "digested" meat from our bodies, it is ROTTING, and carcinogenic. rotting meat. literally rotting flesh.

This theory might be worth a shit if we didn't cook our meat before we ate it.

[Good & Tight]

Not disturbing at all, I love dead animals and love to wear them.

This a fox jacket dyed pink


Raccoon with fox


Rabbit


Beaver


Mink

[Miasma]

That last pic makes you the winner.