Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest

[Joey Link]

okay, most places

but really? you can bring a gun to school in Oregon? I went to high school years before all the big school shootings happened, and while it was possible to bring one for a class project, it required permission and it had to be disassembled and inoperative. They're paranoid as hell now (to what effect, who knows).

Yep, you can carry in schools, but I wouldn't be surprised if you were breaking some type of law by open carrying in a school. Some cities such as Portland have ordinances prohibiting open carry without a CHL.

Although the university system is a 'gun free zone' (haha!) I carried every day I attended PCC. If they catch you, you can be expelled, but you're not breaking any laws. Well worth the risk to me, especially with all the shootings on college campuses.

Edit/ looking into it Oregon is exception to the rule.

http://www.oregonconcealedcarry.com/...42&#entry42142

Yep, and there's no reason schools should be off limits. If anything, what we've learned in the past few years is you're probably more likely to need a firearm in a school than a large number of other places.

Its not an automatic weapon ethier. You cant purchase one without a special purpose permit and even then its still hard and AZ is an open carry state too. Its just a rifle.

Not to mention very expensive. The cheapest automatics I've seen recently were around $3000-$3500 for a shitty MAC10. M16's are usually much, much more (around $16,000 I believe). However, if you did go through the paperwork and purchase a full auto, I do believe you'd be able to open carry that as well (though I could be wrong about this).

[Joey Link]

carrying and brandishing are 2 different things.

if you have a class 3 FFL. you may walk down the street with an automatic wepon, providing that you are not pointing it at anyone or threatening them.

be prepaired to be stopped by the police at some point though. they are going to want to know why you are walking down the street with it and want to see your FFL.

You don't need an FFL to own automatic weapons, only to deal in them from a business standpoint. Individuals require stamps.

[der affe]

sorry, my bad. i combined the class 3 wepons permit with the FFL.

i was just on the phone talking about a FFL with a friend, i guess it was still on my mind when i posted.

[apathy]

Man Who Brought Assault Rifle To Obama Was Part Of Radio Stunt..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/18/right-wing-radio-host-sta_n_262559.html

[BDK]

as responsable gun owners need to recognize that in the democratic party's (or for the sake of arguement the current administration's) push to eliminate gun ownership, public perseption is paramount.

Right Wing BS!!!
Fear and Smear at it's best...

and where did you find this little piece of "Inspiration"?

One does not speak for all,
stop being so damn paranoid,
I am liberal but believe we need to keep our guns....

Not one person in their right mind would ever try to take that away,
Waiting periods, yes,
fully automatic, yes
there has to be some regulation, if not,
we all would be in an arms race to have the biggest gun in the neighborhood...

What the Left needs to do,( and not really doing now),
is keep up with making sure that Perception is not Perceived as Reality,
which is what is happening now,
a "Sky is Falling" mindset from people too lazy/stupid to figure it out on their own...

thats debatable. i think canadas healthcare system is a silly outlandish fairy tale too, but thats why I dont live in canada.

Ever been there Karl?
Ever lived there? Nope.
Ever even talk to a Canadian about their Health Care System or are you just believing the RW Hype, Fox Jibberish BS?
I have, and been and was married to one for more than 10 yrs....
Married to an Irish Girl now whose mother still keeps her Irish Citizenship so that she will always have healthcare....
The Canadian/UK HC system isn't near as bad as the RW makes it out to be,
Look at the rest of the world and countries with Gov't HC,
Only America Puts Profit infront of People when it comes to HC....

But back to the point of the post...
Out of Respect for the Position,
guns should not be allowed anywhere near the President, RW or LW,
No guns near our leader,
I still can't believe that that is not a law....
No guns in school, courtroom, library or a bank but go ahead and bring one when you see your President...Stupidity at it's best...

The RW is so proud of their mis/dis information HC campaign that they thought they would go for the juggler by insighting the 2nd admendment fight at the same time,
they are going after Obama with everything they have right now...
What we are seeing is the RW at what they do best...
Attack,
not help,
not discuss,
not deal with the situation at hand,
but Attack the Person NOT THE SUBJECT,
nothing new, same old RW BS and once again a big number of Americans are too friggin lazy/stupid to figure it out for themselves and just go with the cliffnotes provided by Rush and FoxNews...

When we start making decision based on what best for the group and not the few, the country will start to make progress, right now we are taking more steps backward than forward because the RW has made it an US vs HIM situation....

[slow e30]

i have rights, so i think people that dont like it need to:

a) either gtfo
or
b) stfu.

end of story.

[whiltebeitel]

Right Wing BS!!!
Fear and Smear at it's best...

and where did you find this little piece of "Inspiration"?

One does not speak for all,
stop being so damn paranoid,
I am liberal but believe we need to keep our guns....

Not one person in their right mind would ever try to take that away,
Waiting periods, yes,
fully automatic, yes
there has to be some regulation, if not,
we all would be in an arms race to have the biggest gun in the neighborhood...

What the Left needs to do,( and not really doing now),
is keep up with making sure that Perception is not Perceived as Reality,
which is what is happening now,
a "Sky is Falling" mindset from people too lazy/stupid to figure it out on their own...



Ever been there Karl?
Ever lived there? Nope.
Ever even talk to a Canadian about their Health Care System or are you just believing the RW Hype, Fox Jibberish BS?
I have, and been and was married to one for more than 10 yrs....
Married to an Irish Girl now whose mother still keeps her Irish Citizenship so that she will always have healthcare....
The Canadian/UK HC system isn't near as bad as the RW makes it out to be,
Look at the rest of the world and countries with Gov't HC,
Only America Puts Profit infront of People when it comes to HC....

But back to the point of the post...
The RW is so proud of their mis/dis information HC campaign that they thought they would go for the juggler by insighting the 2nd admendment fight at the same time,
they are going after Obama with everything they have right now...
What we are seeing is the RW at what they do best...
Attack,
not help,
not discuss,
not deal with the situation at hand,
but Attack the Person NOT THE SUBJECT,
nothing new, same old RW BS and once again a big number of Americans are too friggin lazy/stupid to figure it out for themselves and just go with the cliffnotes provided by Rush and FoxNews...

When we start making decision based on what best for the group and not the few, the country will start to make progress, right now we are taking more steps backward than forward because the RW has made it an US vs HIM situation....

Welcome to Politics. It's all a bunch of hype, smear, fear-mongering. Both sides do it, and only a fool would say otherwise. You say "Don't Attack" yet you're attacking the other side just as much. Try discussion if you think that's what's best. If that doesn't work, attacks won't, and you're better off discussing elsewhere.

[der affe]

that is my own "nugget".

there is fear and hate mongering on both the left and the right. neither side is clean in that respect. speak to most on the right an they have similar views. sadly just because they are misinformed and will just tow the party line, insted of making an educated decision based on research and fact.

i do agree that more needs to be done in the way of "damage control" in showing that perception is not always reality. in general the american people have become lazy and can not seem to make an informed decision on their own. i can not stand it when i hear people regurgitate rush or fox. back at me with no way to back up their statements. same goes for the left who do the same. it seems to take a knee jerk reaction to get any responce.

just because i may form sentences like a talk radio host does not mean i share their views or just spew their opinions. (although my spelling has been extra crappy lately)

[Farbin Kaiber]

I'm so glad I moved to an open carry state...

It just makes things much easier.

[Joey Link]

Right Wing BS!!!
Fear and Smear at it's best...

and where did you find this little piece of "Inspiration"?

One does not speak for all,
stop being so damn paranoid,
I am liberal but believe we need to keep our guns....

Not one person in their right mind would ever try to take that away,
Waiting periods, yes,
fully automatic, yes
there has to be some regulation, if not,
we all would be in an arms race to have the biggest gun in the neighborhood...

What the Left needs to do,( and not really doing now),
is keep up with making sure that Perception is not Perceived as Reality,
which is what is happening now,
a "Sky is Falling" mindset from people too lazy/stupid to figure it out on their own...



Ever been there Karl?
Ever lived there? Nope.
Ever even talk to a Canadian about their Health Care System or are you just believing the RW Hype, Fox Jibberish BS?
I have, and been and was married to one for more than 10 yrs....
Married to an Irish Girl now whose mother still keeps her Irish Citizenship so that she will always have healthcare....
The Canadian/UK HC system isn't near as bad as the RW makes it out to be,
Look at the rest of the world and countries with Gov't HC,
Only America Puts Profit infront of People when it comes to HC....

But back to the point of the post...
Out of Respect for the Position,
guns should not be allowed anywhere near the President, RW or LW,
No guns near our leader,
I still can't believe that that is not a law....
No guns in school, courtroom, library or a bank but go ahead and bring one when you see your President...Stupidity at it's best...

The RW is so proud of their mis/dis information HC campaign that they thought they would go for the juggler by insighting the 2nd admendment fight at the same time,
they are going after Obama with everything they have right now...
What we are seeing is the RW at what they do best...
Attack,
not help,
not discuss,
not deal with the situation at hand,
but Attack the Person NOT THE SUBJECT,
nothing new, same old RW BS and once again a big number of Americans are too friggin lazy/stupid to figure it out for themselves and just go with the cliffnotes provided by Rush and FoxNews...

When we start making decision based on what best for the group and not the few, the country will start to make progress, right now we are taking more steps backward than forward because the RW has made it an US vs HIM situation....

Geez, old enough to be married twice yet still clueless. LOOK OUT!! THE RW IS BEHIND YOU!!!

[Massimo]

I can’t believe that you all believe that you should be able to carry a gun were ever you want because you can. I am not a hippy or an anti gun person but I don’t understand why I would need to take a gun to go shopping.

Please Explain?

Don’t give me that bullshit that “Just incase something happens I am prepared.” Let me put you into a situation where a guy has a gun and is threatening to kill someone say in the open in a car park. Therefore you pull out your gun and tell him to drop his weapon. Now the situation is worse then before this guy is on edge and doesn’t know who you are and unlike a police officer you could shoot him when he lowers his weapon for all he knows. While you are twitching because you don’t know this guys story and who he is and weather he really means it or not. So all you could do is

• Talk him into putting his gun down
• If he starts shooting shoot him if he dose not get you first

Now you are both really on edge and the likely out come is someone gets shot. If you were to just call the police and vacate the area. When the police rocked up they probably know who this guy is, would have got in contact with family members and found out what his deal. They one could have

• negotiated him to put the gun down
• tazered him
• have a family member talk to him
• shoot him with rubber bullets
• then if he were to start shooting they would shoot him

I don’t see the need for guns for safety a tazer is what you need. No one dies and you do not go to court because you shot someone and killed him.

Now I do enjoy shot every once in a while so I go the local shooting range and let a few off or go hunting. I don’t think they need to ban guns but restrict them. For example here in Australia you can own a hand gun but you must be a part of a club with a shooting range and you are not allowed to take the gun out of the club. I think this would work well in America

All Automatic and hand guns could be limited to clubs and rifles for hunting. Therefore you can still go shooting with your favorite weapons and no one has to wonder if the guy next to him is packing or not.

So now who is going to argue my point and say it is necessary to carry a gun?

[e30s52]

I can’t believe that you all believe that you should be able to carry a gun were ever you want because you can. I am not a hippy or an anti gun person but I don’t understand why I would need to take a gun to go shopping.

Please Explain?

Don’t give me that bullshit that “Just incase something happens I am prepared.” Let me put you into a situation where a guy has a gun and is threatening to kill someone say in the open in a car park. Therefore you pull out your gun and tell him to drop his weapon. Now the situation is worse then before this guy is on edge and doesn’t know who you are and unlike a police officer you could shoot him when he lowers his weapon for all he knows. While you are twitching because you don’t know this guys story and who he is and weather he really means it or not. So all you could do is

• Talk him into putting his gun down
• If he starts shooting shoot him if he dose not get you first

Now you are both really on edge and the likely out come is someone gets shot. If you were to just call the police and vacate the area. When the police rocked up they probably know who this guy is, would have got in contact with family members and found out what his deal. They one could have

• negotiated him to put the gun down
• tazered him
• have a family member talk to him
• shoot him with rubber bullets
• then if he were to start shooting they would shoot him

I don’t see the need for guns for safety a tazer is what you need. No one dies and you do not go to court because you shot someone and killed him.

Now I do enjoy shot every once in a while so I go the local shooting range and let a few off or go hunting. I don’t think they need to ban guns but restrict them. For example here in Australia you can own a hand gun but you must be a part of a club with a shooting range and you are not allowed to take the gun out of the club. I think this would work well in America

All Automatic and hand guns could be limited to clubs and rifles for hunting. Therefore you can still go shooting with your favorite weapons and no one has to wonder if the guy next to him is packing or not.

So now who is going to argue my point and say it is necessary to carry a gun?

Tazers have killed people before.....

Also with your little parking lot role playing crap. You could save a life instead of running away to go call the police who will take 30 minutes to get there.

It is my right as a US resident to carry a firearm in arizona and I will use that right to the full extent. How australia does things sounds like the goverment controls everything kinda like what the goverment wants to do now.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Dude, you live in a nanny state. I'm gonna do everything the freedoms of my countries constitution has provided me until the left takes it all away...

[Joey Link]

I can’t believe that you all believe that you should be able to carry a gun were ever you want because you can. I am not a hippy or an anti gun person but I don’t understand why I would need to take a gun to go shopping.

Please Explain?

Don’t give me that bullshit that “Just incase something happens I am prepared.” Let me put you into a situation where a guy has a gun and is threatening to kill someone say in the open in a car park. Therefore you pull out your gun and tell him to drop his weapon. Now the situation is worse then before this guy is on edge and doesn’t know who you are and unlike a police officer you could shoot him when he lowers his weapon for all he knows. While you are twitching because you don’t know this guys story and who he is and weather he really means it or not. So all you could do is

• Talk him into putting his gun down
• If he starts shooting shoot him if he dose not get you first

Now you are both really on edge and the likely out come is someone gets shot. If you were to just call the police and vacate the area. When the police rocked up they probably know who this guy is, would have got in contact with family members and found out what his deal. They one could have

• negotiated him to put the gun down
• tazered him
• have a family member talk to him
• shoot him with rubber bullets
• then if he were to start shooting they would shoot him

I don’t see the need for guns for safety a tazer is what you need. No one dies and you do not go to court because you shot someone and killed him.

Now I do enjoy shot every once in a while so I go the local shooting range and let a few off or go hunting. I don’t think they need to ban guns but restrict them. For example here in Australia you can own a hand gun but you must be a part of a club with a shooting range and you are not allowed to take the gun out of the club. I think this would work well in America

All Automatic and hand guns could be limited to clubs and rifles for hunting. Therefore you can still go shooting with your favorite weapons and no one has to wonder if the guy next to him is packing or not.

So now who is going to argue my point and say it is necessary to carry a gun?

I was going to happily refute everything you said in this post, until I looked at where you live. I won't waste the keystrokes trying to get through to you, you're already too far gone.

[Miasma]

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