Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest

[Leaf]

Why are we rednecks? because we choose to carry a firearm? My father has a CCW and he is lawyer. Does that make him a redneck?

It figures that somone from Ca would say somthing like this. You see I can do it too by putting you in a category of a hippy obama voter.;)

not a big fan of guns, but your sig is really tight(5 lug?)...


...that is all.

[Pinepig]

Ok then well that fair enough.

Why don't you all just use rubber bullets. That way everyone wins.

If you can get the bad guys to use them I will too.

[Miasma]

not a big fan of guns, but your sig is really tight(5 lug?)...


...that is all.

Pretty sure he is on E30M3 5-Lug and those are 2 piece style 5's.

[decay]

True you probably would pop my ass first but if guns were banned then why would you have one.

if i am willing to commit such a crime in the first place, i am ALREADY BREAKING THE LAW. given that- why the fuck would i care what the law says about whether or not i can possess a gun?

[der affe]

i drove by where obama was staying (the phoenician) 2 times this weekend with guns in the car ohhhhhhhhhh.

it is right by my house and on the way to my parents house.

[joshh]

I'm so glad I moved to an open carry state...

It just makes things much easier.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Says the guy with the camcorder in his sig.

[der affe]

now let me share just one gun story with you. i will set it up for you first. i live in a pretty nice and quiet part of scottsdale (alex/e30s52 can attest to that as he has been to my house). super low crime, nice neighbors, i have forgotten to lock my car and left the windows down ad everything is still there, you get the picture.

well, on the first night i am here after the remodel and i have bought the house, my roommate and i are unloading the last of his stuff from the back of his truck when we here a girl saying loudly "stop.....help me" . we stop and look to see what is going on and see a young couple in the grass accross the street chasing each other. it does not look serious, more like a BF/GF playing pinch and tickle, so we keep unloading the truck.

next load out of the truck she is getting louder, sees us in the driveway and starts to head accross the street to my drive way saying again "help me please!" i can see by the look on her face that something is up. she asks me to help her and explains that her BF is roughing her up and they are fighting. now i am thinking "super, why am i getting drawn into this????"

now the BF is in my carport too and my well trained 130lb rotti is outside and brisseling at this kid so i grab his collar and restrain him. the BF tells her that " we don't need to bother them with our problems" then grabs her by the arm and starta to pull her away. she resists and starts to cry. she then tells me that she is 18 and he is 1 then the BF tells me that she is preggers and wants to have an abortion, but he does not want that and wants to "talk care of my 1st baby!" she then interjects with" but i am too young and so are you, i am just not ready to be a mom" (amazing right?). the dog is getting more agitated at things so i tell my roommate to watch them, i am putting the dog up and getting my phone to call 911.

i go inside grab my phone and my XX XXX 40 cal and slip it into the waist in the back of my shorts and put my shirt over it. i then call 911 and tell them that there is a domestic call involvikg a minor that has walkwd into my driveway and would they please send someone out to deal with it ASAP! i also tell them that i havew a CCW and a XX XXX 40 cal on me in my waist on my back and to advise the officers as such.......ok done!

i return to the carport to a VERY agitated BF argueing with the GF and pulling on her arm and a confused roommate. i tell the roommate that the cops are on the way and then step infront of him and lift the back of my shirt to show him the gun.

at this point i tell the BF to calm down and leave her alone, but do not leave, the police have been called and are on the way. he then turns to her and says " bitch look what you have caused!" and raises his fist to strike her. (now i know that i am going to have issues if i actually do anything to him because he is a minor and at the time i was 34, this is why i grabbed the gun in the first place).
i then pull the gun from my waist; so he can see it without actually pointing it at him; and tell him "don't fucking do that! sit the fuck down on the ground and shut the fuck up!"
one minuite later the cops show up. as the 1st cop is walking up the driveway, i tell him that i called 911 and i have a gun, then place it on the hood of my car for the officers piece of mind. now 2 other cars roll up and there is 6 cops at my house. they seperate the BF/GF and start to take statements. i reholster my gun and begin to give my statement.

as it turns out the girl lived in west phx by her young mexican BF. he knocked her up and the parents sent her to live with her aunt in nice quiet scottsdale. the stupid aunt let the BF move in with them against the girl's parents wishes. when the police brought up harboring a minor and statutory rape charges against the GF. she decided to send him packing witha trash bag of crap to the bus stop.

nothing ever happened to me other than the girl thanking me and the aunt appologising to me for what had happened.

i carry a gun, i used that gun properly for the situation, noone was hurt alls well that ends well.

things can happen at the most unsupecting times, in the most unsuspecting places. being prepaired is the key to handling things correctly, both physically and mentally

[mrsleeve]

I dot have time type a response but Vdub has out it just as I would have.

I carry because I choose not to be a victim. I also know I cant depend on anyone but myself in a time of action. With proper training and much practice I don't hesitate to carry. I do not glorify my gun as some light saber but just as another tool such as a hammer or car jack. If you ever think nothing is ever going to happen, than please take your spare tire and your cell phone out of your car and go cross country. You take them with you because "just in case" I carry my firearm "just in case"!

[Joey Link]

Im am just trying to point out is that the only reason you all carry guns reguarly is because everyone else dose. Is this statement true?

No. I carry a gun to give me the upper hand in any type of altercation, it doesn't matter if the other person is using his fists, a knife, a bat, a gun, or if I'm outnumbered. Like I said before, a gun is the only chance a 105lbs. girlfriend like mine has against a man, even if he's just armed with his fists.

Why don't you all just use rubber bullets. That way everyone wins.

What Pinepig said. Also, and mainly, because rubber bullets have very little actual stopping power. Sure, they hurt, but there are many drugs out there that negate that effect.

[Vedubin01]

Bet this guy wishes he had one at the time of attack. Im sure the outcome would have been different.

911 Calls Released in Milwaukee Mayor Attack

MILWAUKEE (AP) - Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett's niece called 911 after a man beat him up while he was answering a grandmother's cries for help, saying her uncle was bleeding a lot. The 55-year-old mayor has been lauded by family, friends and even President Barack Obama for trying to help the woman and her 1-year-old granddaughter near the Wisconsin State Fair Saturday.


A 20-year-old man was arrested for hitting Barrett with an expandable baton or metal pipe. Barrett has a shattered hand, missing teeth and gashes on his face and head. He was released from the hospital Monday.

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1091400.shtml?cat=1

[ACMF74]

i can't believe i'm the first person to ask this question:

like what?












but no srsly, i want to know.

situation: i have a beretta 9mm- what do you have that is going to make me worry?

krav maga? *bang* before you close distance
knife? *bang*
asp baton? *bang*
tazer? *bang*

???

[wildstoats]

but no srsly, i want to know.

situation: i have a beretta 9mm- what do you have that is going to make me worry?

krav maga? *bang* before you close distance
knife? *bang*
asp baton? *bang*
tazer? *bang*

???

Well that all depends on the situation and the distance now doesn't it? If the person with the knife is less than 20 feet away and you haven't drawn yet you would be in for a world of hurt. Just saying.

[ACMF74]

I currently have a pistol permit that covers Target/Hunting/Home. It's very tough to get a full carry in NY. A New Yorker needs justification for a concealed weapon. Since I don't have a cash business I would be declined.

[wildstoats]

Many here in the States do not. Some of the public carrying or possesing is good for all. This has been proven in Statistics compiled by the FBI. States with CC or Open carry have consistantly lower crime rates then do the most restricted Cities and States. These stats have been compiled since before the "Clinton" era.

And I would reply that correlation is not causation. It could be the case but I think it's irresponsible to just assume that there is less crime because of CC laws. In fact, and this is just a hypothesis, there might be more restrictive gun laws in areas of high crime due to a failed attempt to curb the crime. I don't have any solid evidence one way or the other but I'm sick of people making this argument without supporting it properly. That being said, I am all for CC. A few of my friends have theirs and it does not bother me at all because they went through rigorous training on the proper use of firearms. I've been thinking about getting mine but I honestly don't have the time, money, or necessity at the moment.