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I don't seek to learn based on political orientation.
Cheap shot, but funny!
For the Record I am not a Boosh fan boy, and did not support Iraq (right war wrong time with no international backing was a stupid move). But the issue remains that we are there for better or worse and we have to support our Armed services and the their mission there and see it though to the end. We mush finish what we have started, something my grandpa taught me, and one of life's greatest lessons on a personal or a international scale. If we dont there will be a victory declared (no matte how hollow) and will become a rallying cry for all the weirdos and extremist out there
We are just gonna have to agree to disagree, and leave it at that
BTW just so you know Conservative Independent, I dont care about party line.
Also, I don't care much for party lines either. The way I see it, I'm a "moderate".
On some issues (such as abortion and health care) I take a liberal stance.
On others (such as gun control and welfare) I take a conservative stance.Originally posted by accidentI have achieved the title of Douche of the month.
Discuss.Originally posted by kronusIt was probably pissed off because it didn't want to pay taxes for poor people's healthcare.
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< **puts on flame suit, awaiting conservatives using "bandaid over bullet-wound" analagy"**Originally posted by accidentI have achieved the title of Douche of the month.
Discuss.Originally posted by kronusIt was probably pissed off because it didn't want to pay taxes for poor people's healthcare.
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I honestly think this is a pretty ignorant statement. For the most part, Those who teach are people who have done something for a long time and they care enough about furthering their field, to share their ability and experience with others.
Then again, I am at engineering school; and I can see how that would make a difference. (as opposed to a liberal arts school)Comment
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Yeah and the ones that do that stay in their filed and mentor the next generations. Well the ones that truly care to pass on their knowledge any way.
I have been very very lucky in my field, as I have gotten to draw from the life time of experiences of 2 of the very best and most respected guys around, combined they have 90+ years of experience 1 in his 70's came outta retirement to train me and teach me, and the other is in his late 60's and owns the place, and I work with him in the field when I can as well.
All that said I think we need to pull away from the whole College only education and go back to apprenticeships and a 50/50 work study programs for secondary education. Start at the bottom of your fields work your way up. That way only the cream rises to the top. As it sits now I really think we have a case of to many chiefs not enough IndiansLast edited by mrsleeve; 12-09-2009, 03:02 PM.Originally posted by FusionIf a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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In my opinion if 4500 dollars was making or breaking you buying a new car. I don't think buying a new car was a very good idea. Many of those buying the cars were simply using the program for a better discount but the mass "I need to buy a car right now this deal will never come back" may create problems in the future. Such as the housing tax rebates. There are a LOT of people stretching to get into a house just because the deal is good.
The marginal fuel economy thing is crap. Plain and simple. That was just a 'feel good' and 'warm and fuzzy' feeling side note.
Exactly. You and Obama and the administration doesn't know either. Yet they are sitting there coming up with these type of schemes(really all it is) in a hope to give a small pump into the economy. Creating a temporary bubble on the back of more debt is not a solution.Comment
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Doing slightly better? Information on this front? Essentially they compressed months or maybe even years of auto sales into a couple of months. We borrowed money from mostly China I would guess. Made our dollar worth less by doing. All so we could give some discounts to some consumers.
In my opinion if 4500 dollars was making or breaking you buying a new car. I don't think buying a new car was a very good idea. Many of those buying the cars were simply using the program for a better discount but the mass "I need to buy a car right now this deal will never come back" may create problems in the future. Such as the housing tax rebates. There are a LOT of people stretching to get into a house just because the deal is good.
Exactly. You and Obama and the administration doesn't know either. Yet they are sitting there coming up with these type of schemes(really all it is) in a hope to give a small pump into the economy. Creating a temporary bubble on the back of more debt is not a solution.Originally posted by accidentI have achieved the title of Douche of the month.
Discuss.Originally posted by kronusIt was probably pissed off because it didn't want to pay taxes for poor people's healthcare.
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All that said I think we need to pull away from the whole College only education and go back to apprenticeships and a 50/50 work study programs for secondary education. Start at the bottom of your fields work your way up. That way only the cream rises to the top. As it sits now I really think we have a case of to many Indians not enough chiefs
But college isn't just about education. It is about growing as an individual and learning about life, too (if not more so). An apprenticeship can do that, if set up properly. (i.e. not living with mom & dad)
I fully believe that there will soon be a turn around in the wage/benefits scale that will favor those with trade skills. Most people can't change their own oil anymore. Who's going to fix their sink/lamp/roof? People will be forced to pay a premium for these services in the future because they simply won't have the know-how for practical skills.Comment
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Yeah and the ones that do that stay in their filed and mentor the next generations. Well the ones that truly care to pass on their knowledge any way.
I have been very very lucky in my field, as I have gotten to draw from the life time of experiences of 2 of the very best and most respected guys around, combined they have 90+ years of experience 1 in his 70's came outta retirement to train me and teach me, and the other is in his late 60's and owns the place, and I work with him in the field when I can as well.
All that said I think we need to pull away from the whole College only education and go back to apprenticeships and a 50/50 work study programs for secondary education. Start at the bottom of your fields work your way up. That way only the cream rises to the top. As it sits now I really think we have a case of to many Indians not enough chiefs
Although the method of uneducated trial and error may work sometimes, a better option is always an informed plan with mathematical and scientific backing.
You know what I mean? or am i just rambling? (No sarcasm)Comment
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So we have a former warehouse worker on here @ $16.75 + benefits going back to college & then law school. If I were to go back to my alma mater I would be spending upwards of $14k per semester, plus room & board. There is no way I would ever get my cash back, when opportunity cost is figured in. I try to encourage the high-schoolers I know to examine what it really is that they want to do with their lives. Many times they can achieve it without college. Sometimes they can't.
Average lifetime earnings by degree.
High school: $1,200,000
Bachelor's: $2,100,000
Doctoral: $3,400,000
Still think the opportunity cost of $200,000 isn't worth it? To many, it is, especially given the $900,000 differrence in average lifetime earnings.
But college isn't just about education. It is about growing as an individual and learning about life, too (if not more so). An apprenticeship can do that, if set up properly. (i.e. not living with mom & dad)
I fully believe that there will soon be a turn around in the wage/benefits scale that will favor those with trade skills. Most people can't change their own oil anymore. Who's going to fix their sink/lamp/roof? People will be forced to pay a premium for these services in the future because they simply won't have the know-how for practical skills.
a) someone overseas will do it for cheaper...or
b) an immigrant worker will do it for cheaper.Originally posted by accidentI have achieved the title of Douche of the month.
Discuss.Originally posted by kronusIt was probably pissed off because it didn't want to pay taxes for poor people's healthcare.
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A guy in India can't fix my plumbing issues. An unskilled Illegal Alien can't do it right for 1/2 the price either.Comment
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