do you drink bottled water? if so, look at this.

[Atreus]

You do know that reusing the bottles that they put bottled water in can cause cancer right?

how so. i've heard that heating the plastic ones like that can cause cancer. but not just refilling them to drink....:hitler:

[Wiglaf]

i didn't realize germs look like a game of PAC-MAN

[LBJefferies]

The tap water around here is pretty jacked up. Certain parts of my town have toxic levels of jet fuel in the ground water. But i drink filtered fridge water. I only buy bottled water if I'm already on the road and have to have water.

WTF? How did this happen? Do you live near a refinery? An airport perhaps?

[Brian 89 325i]

WTF? How did this happen? Do you live near a refinery? An airport perhaps?

There are a few airports around here. One of them was a DHL hub at an Air Reserve Base.

[ben312]

how so. i've heard that heating the plastic ones like that can cause cancer. but not just refilling them to drink....:hitler:

Or frezzing them. Because the plastics they are made with break down and release toxins into the water. Good way to prove it, bottled water has an expiration date. Now do you really think that the water is gonna go stale? :shiftyeyes:

[nando]

yeah, that's totally proof :roll:

[Jparkr]

Are you joking or just that ignorant? Its not the active ingredient, its a metabolizer.

Scientific Study Finds Fluoride Horror Stories Factual
Industrial by-product consumed by millions of Americans lowers IQ, causes cancer Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, January 15, 2008
The establishment media will have to find a new tactic with which to ridicule those who oppose the fluoridation of water after a major new Scientific American report concluded that "Scientific attitudes toward fluoridation may be starting to shift" as new evidence emerges of the poison's link to disorders affecting teeth, bones, the brain and the thyroid gland, as well as lowering IQ.
"Today almost 60 percent of the U.S. population drinks fluoridated water, including residents of 46 of the nation’s 50 largest cities," reports Scientific American's Dan Fagin.
Fagin is an award-wining environmental reporter and Director of New York University's Science, Health and Environmental Reporting Program.
"Outside the U.S., fluoridation has spread to Canada, the U.K., Australia, New Zealand and a few other countries. Critics of the practice have generally been dismissed as gadflies or zealots by mainstream researchers and public health agencies in those countries as well as the U.S. (In other nations, however, water fluoridation is rare and controversial.)"

(Article continues below)

Indeed, the zeitgeist for scoffing at those who spoke of the dangers of mass medicating the public against their will with fluoride was the deranged and paranoid character of General Ripper in the hit 1964 Peter Selllers movie Dr. Strangelove.



But that stereotype is quickly fading as serious scientific research uncovers proof that all the horror stories about sodium fluoride told down the decades are essentially true.
The Scientific American study "Concluded that fluoride can subtly alter endocrine function, especially in the thyroid -- the gland that produces hormones regulating growth and metabolism."
The report also notes that "a series of epidemiological studies in China have associated high fluoride exposures with lower IQ."
"Epidemiological studies and tests on lab animals suggest that high fluoride exposure increases the risk of bone fracture, especially in vulnerable populations such as the elderly and diabetics," writes Fagin.

Fagin interviewed Steven Levy, director of the Iowa Fluoride Study which tracked about 700 Iowa children for sixteen years. Nine-year-old "Iowa children who lived in communities where the water was fluoridated were 50 percent more likely to have mild fluorosis... than [nine-year-old] children living in nonfluoridated areas of the state," writes Fagin.
The study adds to a growing literature of shocking scientific studies proving fluoride's link with all manner of health defects, even as governments in the west, including recently the UK, make plans to mass medicate the population against their will with this deadly toxin.

In 2005, a study conducted at the Harvard School of Dental Health found that fluoride in tap water directly contributes to causing bone cancer in young boys.
"New American research suggests that boys exposed to fluoride between the ages of five and 10 will suffer an increased rate of osteosarcoma - bone cancer - between the ages of 10 and 19," according to a London Observer article about the study.
Based on the findings of the study, the respected Environmental Working Group lobbied to have fluoride in tap water be added to the US government's classified list of substances known or anticipated to cause cancer in humans.
Cancer rates in the U.S. have skyrocketed with one in three people now contracting the disease at some stage in their life.
The link to bone cancer has also been discovered by other scientists, but a controversy ensued after it emerged that Harvard Professor Chester Douglass, who downplayed the connection in his final report, was in fact editor-in-chief of The Colgate Oral Health Report, a quarterly newsletter funded by Colgate-Palmolive Co., which makes fluoridated toothpaste.
An August 2006 Chinese study found that fluoride in drinking water damages children's liver and kidney functions.
FACTS ABOUT FLUORIDE
- Fluoride is a waste by-product of the fertilizer and aluminum industry and it's also a Part II Poison under the UK Poisons Act 1972.
- Fluoride is one of the basic ingredients in both PROZAC (FLUoxetene Hydrochloride) and Sarin nerve gas (Isopropyl-Methyl-Phosphoryl FLUoride).
- USAF Major George R. Jordan testified before Un-American Activity committees of Congress in the 1950's that in his post as U.S.-Soviet liaison officer, the Soviets openly admitted to "Using the fluoride in the water supplies in their concentration camps, to make the prisoners stupid, docile, and subservient."
- The first occurrence of fluoridated drinking water on Earth was found in Germany's Nazi prison camps. The Gestapo had little concern about fluoride's supposed effect on children's teeth; their alleged reason for mass-medicating water with sodium fluoride was to sterilize humans and force the people in their concentration camps into calm submission. (Ref. book: "The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben" by Joseph Borkin.)
- 97% of western Europe has rejected fluoridated water due to the known health risks, however 10% of Britons drink it and the UK government is trying to fast track the fluoridation of the entire country's water supply.
- In Germany, Belgium and Luxembourg fluoridation of water was rejected because it was classified as compulsive medication against the subject's will and therefore violated fundamental human rights.
- In November of 2006, the American Dental Association (ADA) advised that parents should avoid giving babies fluoridated water.
- Sources of fluoride include: fluoride dental products, fluoride pesticides, fluoridated pharmaceuticals, processed foods made with fluoridated water, and tea.
Click here to find out if your water supply is poisoned with deadly fluoride.

[bwanac]

Everything causes cancer.

[LBJefferies]

Everything causes cancer.

I know right. The Sun, the very reason that life exists on this planet, causes cancer.

[mar1t1me]

God causes cancer.

"Then God gave me just what I needed. In March of 1998 the cancer
returned and my doctor gave me 2 years to live"

[daniel]

listen to the "stuff you should know" podcast on fluoride. it is very interesting.

[ben312]

yeah, that's totally proof :roll:

Its not scientific proof of anything, but water shouldn't go bad in an air sealed container. Yet they have expiration dates on bottled water.

[ben312]

We’ve talked about bottled water before and all the plastic pollution that comes along with buying disposable plastic water bottles every time you need a drink of water.

Well, plastic pollution isn’t the only reason we should be staying away from bottled water. It’s also full of contaminants. Some of them may even cause cancer.

At 1,900 times (1,900 times!) the cost of tap water, you’d think bottled water would be purified, clean, and drinkable. Right? Wrong. Most bottled water is actually just tap water sold in a bottle. It has all the same contaminants as tap water – caffeine, chlorine, toluene (a cancer-causing chemical), arsenic – and some brands have even more.


A recent two-year study conducted by the Environmental Working Group on ten brands of bottled water in California, North Carolina, Virginia, Maryland and Delaware showed high levels of contaminants. While all brands met the federal regulations for tap water, two brands had 3 -5 times the amount of chlorine by-products allowed under California law. All in all, 38 contaminants were found in the ten brands, with about eight in each brand.

Study co-author Jane Houlihan, an environmental engineer and Vice President for Research at EWG, said in a statement that consumers “can’t trust that what’s in the bottle is anything more than processed, pricey tap water”.

It gets worse. High levels of cancer-causing contaminants were found in Sam’s Choice water sold at Wal-Mart and Acadia bottled water from Giant Foods supermarkets. Both had three times the amount of chlorine byproducts, known as trihalomethanes, as are legal under California health standards.

Water researcher Dr. David Carpenter, director of the Institute for Health and the Environment of the University at Albany, who had no role in the study, singled out trihalomethanes as the biggest concern because of strong research links to cancer in this article on MSNBC.

“These are levels that should not be in bottled water,” he said.

The study also said the Wal-Mart brand exceeded California’s health standard for another chlorine byproduct, bromodichloromethane, by five times. Chlorine byproducts are linked not only to cancer, but to birth defects as well.

The Environmental Working Group intends to sue Wal-Mart for selling contaminated water and insist they include a cancer warning on every label.

“In some cases, it appears bottled water is no less polluted than tap water and, at 1,900 times the cost, consumers should expect better,” said Jane Houlihan, an environmental engineer who co-authored the study.

Needless to say, it’s time we stopped falling for manufacturers claims that bottled water is somehow better for us than tap water. In most cases, this is not the truth (Evian and other high-end waters excluded).

Take your health into your own hands and purchase a carbon filter for your tap water. Getting water out of a bottle just isn’t working – for your health or the health of the planet.

[LBJefferies]

Its not scientific proof of anything, but water shouldn't go bad in an air sealed container. Yet they have expiration dates on bottled water.

I heard something on NPR about this although it was related to canned foods not bottled water. Apparently there are two reasons.

First, people seem to feel more comfortable buying something if it has an expiration date.

Second, expiration dates mean more sales.

[ben312]

I heard something on NPR about this although it was related to canned foods not bottled water. Apparently there are two reasons.

First, people seem to feel more comfortable buying something if it has an expiration date.

Second, expiration dates mean more sales.

ever drink a fresh bottle of bottled water? how did it taste? now go drink one past the expiration date, not the same same taste. or open one take a few drinks, then put it in the refrigerator for a few days and drink the rest. it will have a different taste then when you first drank it. now this is not proof of anything but I would like to see a study or reasons as to why this happens.