Vendor Stole My Photo

[Massive Lee]

So you've posted this on all the BMW forums you can think of and now spend all hours of every day following the forums and replying non stop to each one? Sounds like a blast. I now know why you're after money for the photo.

I guess there are two ways to deal with a problem. Shovel it under the rug, hoping it will disapear (what DTM-whatever did), or face the crisis and man-up by taking responsibility, and at least apologizing. The crappy vendor decided that not even responding would be the proper way. Speedmind chose a more manly way to get the vendor's attention. It is not slendering as long as the facts are true.

When the story will be plastered all over the net, and that DTM-whatever will also be known for stealing intellectual property from BMW owners, then perhaps they can start thinking it was not the appropriate manner.

I have absolutely nothing against Ary. Nonetheless, I hate thieves.

Vlad took pictures of his gorgious red M3 and his no-less gorgious girlfriend to see the picture being printed and sold on eBay without giving any form of consent. Is that okay for you too?

[speedminded]

seriously.. this boo hoo hoo has gotten old.. go sue them and come back and update.

Looks like the only people crying are those that have nothing coherent to say lol!

So you've posted this on all the BMW forums you can think of and now spend all hours of every day following the forums and replying non stop to each one? Sounds like a blast. I now know why you're after money for the photo.

Yep! Nothing better to do but wait for the registration and attorney paperwork and hope the owners of the other pics finds it as well so they can rail them too. Maybe go pick up the rest of the parts for the Porsche brake kit I designed or drive 12 hours to get the new e30 m3. Maybe one or two people will learn about copyright law at the same time. Who knows? Nice sig though! lol!

[PeaveyBassist]

So you've posted this on all the BMW forums you can think of and now spend all hours of every day following the forums and replying non stop to each one? Sounds like a blast. I now know why you're after money for the photo.

[kishg]

You say you're not posting about it anywhere outside this thread- but I swear I've seen the same "woe is me" thread on BFC for one, and it's probably been posted elsewhere.

seriously.. this boo hoo hoo has gotten old.. go sue them and come back and update.

[speedminded]

I created a 15" turd this morning, so I'm pretty artistic actually. I'd share a picture of it, but one of you sphincter-spelunkers would pirate it for your own viewing pleasure.


You say you're not posting about it anywhere outside this thread- but I swear I've seen the same "woe is me" thread on BFC for one, and it's probably been posted elsewhere.

Here you go: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1369195


Come back and bump this thread in a couple of months, I'm willing to bet that NOTHING has come of your attempts to recoup compensation from Eurostopsz or whatever the hell their name is.


Like I said before- let us know how this works out for you.

Again, your intelligence is up to par with a plastic thermostat housing. When someone says STFU they're tired of hearing about it wouldn't that imply it's been posted all over THIS forum? As in more than one time in more than one sub-forum? I have indeed posted this on just about any BMW forum they are a supporting vendor for, I have not spammed any forum, made more than one thread about it anywhere, or even posted in their own threads.

[Rigmaster]

I created a 15" turd this morning, so I'm pretty artistic actually. I'd share a picture of it, but one of you sphincter-spelunkers would pirate it for your own viewing pleasure.


You say you're not posting about it anywhere outside this thread- but I swear I've seen the same "woe is me" thread on BFC for one, and it's probably been posted elsewhere.

Here you go: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1369195


Come back and bump this thread in a couple of months, I'm willing to bet that NOTHING has come of your attempts to recoup compensation from Eurostopsz or whatever the hell their name is.


Like I said before- let us know how this works out for you.

[Lionel]

The e46 was shot on the Nürburgring with an Olympus E-1. The e30 appears to be the same style/photographer but it doesn't have any EXIF data to know for sure. I see no Eurostop/DTMFW parts either. I thought I knew the photographer that took them, as he did too, until he discovered the EXIF data on the e46 to be a different from his camera. I've recognized the photographers of at least 3 photos stolen on various websites the past year...even just from small crops of the original.

The silver 2002 was taken from photobucket, the file name wasn't changed and it was uploaded 2 months before the new DTMfiberwerkz website. Not to mention there are two more photos of that car that aren't on DTMFW. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32399794@N02/3837523986/

The E36 GTR Race Style Widebody Kit on DTMFW is ironically the same photos found on Octane Motorsports.

The list goes on and on: the entire website, other than a couple of their own personal cars, was made from stolen photos.

Business ethics was never Euro Stop's strong suit. There are a few threads on that subject.

Speedminded is 100% within his right and I'm with Lee as well.

Speedminded would of probably been fair priced and happy to be of help if they had approched him early on to use his work and possibly help with ALL the pics on their website. Of course to save a buck it may wind up costing them the family jewels.

Last, I'm still surprised no one has approached the copyright infringements on the parts they make. I mean aren't they all knock offs as well? No?

L.

[speedminded]

OK, fine.


Now- pursue the legal action and STFU around here for a while, m-kay?

If you have an issue wouldn't it make more sense to not read this thread or bump it? I'm not posting about it anywhere outside this thread, in their threads, or even talking bad about about them. I stated the situation, my rights, and debate and correct those that aren't familiar with copyright law or proper business ethics.

I explicitly stated in the original post this thread is to inform other photographers that their work is being infringed upon by this company. Not every one of them is going to be visiting their website to notice their pics being illegally used. If you don't have experience with copyright issues, don't have an advertising or any creative arts background, and if you're not an IP attorney then the chances are you have nothing remotely intelligent to say in this thread.

I'm not asking for everyone or even anyone to agree with me, what's the fun in that? We're all here for the same reason, because we love our cars...just at least show some bit of intelligence.

[Rigmaster]

http://copybyte.com/copyright/infrin...-questions.htm

What should I do if I have been accused of internet copyright infringement?

The first thing you should do is make every effort to remove the copied materials from the web. Next, if it is possible, you should communicate with the person or organization whose materials you copied (or their representative) in order to come to understand their expectations. If you are unable to come to an agreement, you should seek legal advice because the copyright owner may pursue legal action.

OK, fine.


Now- pursue the legal action and STFU around here for a while, m-kay?

[Aptyp]

from legal stance, if they apologize, they're admitting to doing something wrong. If you want them to apologize for crummy parts, don't buy from them. They'll go out of business that way.

[EndreM]

DTM Fiber Werkz should apologize, and OP should be happy with that.
Trying to squeeze money out of every insignificant situation is pathetic, altough I agree that DTMFW was doing the wrong thing here.

[e30e]

As a journalist, I've come up against this in the past. Of course, our laws down here differ greatly to your laws over there, but here are the basic points as I see it:

- DTM Fiber Werkz are douches for A) using his image without permission and B) removing/altering the work without permission.

- Speedminded was well within his rights to ask for payment, and then a cease & desist when no payment was forthcoming.

- DTM Fiber Werkz are douches for spelling "works" "werkz"

- I wouldn't expect to be paid a cent by Captain Fibreglass as he's removed the content. It's not like he ran it in a magazine and its in print for the rest of eternity (as has happened to one of my stories).

Sorry to say, Speedminded, but I think you should let it go and move on to pimping your shots (even to Australian and New Zealand magazines and websites - Aussies have huge numbers of car mags down here!)



Possibly the most honest thing written in this thread. Add xwill112x to that window-licking list, too.

x2!

I swear just because you disagree with OP does not mean you have to be a compete asshat like 3-4 of you have been. If anything this twat of fiberglass company that overcharges for shit work should at least make a public apology so the OP will stop posting and end this thread.

[speedminded]

http://copybyte.com/copyright/infringement/4L/digital-copyright/frequently-asked-questions.htm

What should I do if I have been accused of internet copyright infringement?

The first thing you should do is make every effort to remove the copied materials from the web. Next, if it is possible, you should communicate with the person or organization whose materials you copied (or their representative) in order to come to understand their expectations. If you are unable to come to an agreement, you should seek legal advice because the copyright owner may pursue legal action.

[Fidhle007]

Only amazing that you typed up exactly what I've been saying and then called me a retard... Maybe you're the retard.

You might have similar points of view but he put his out there in a supportive manner and didn't refer to Speedminded as a Douche. The guy had his photo stolen and the company won't talk to him about, how well do you think name calling is really going to work? Hence, why you are a retard.

[Aptyp]

As a journalist, I've come up against this in the past. Of course, our laws down here differ greatly to your laws over there, but here are the basic points as I see it:

- DTM Fiber Werkz are douches for A) using his image without permission and B) removing/altering the work without permission.

- Speedminded was well within his rights to ask for payment, and then a cease & desist when no payment was forthcoming.

- DTM Fiber Werkz are douches for spelling "works" "werkz"

- I wouldn't expect to be paid a cent by Captain Fibreglass as he's removed the content. It's not like he ran it in a magazine and its in print for the rest of eternity (as has happened to one of my stories).

Sorry to say, Speedminded, but I think you should let it go and move on to pimping your shots (even to Australian and New Zealand magazines and websites - Aussies have huge numbers of car mags down here!)

Only amazing that you typed up exactly what I've been saying and then called me a retard... Maybe you're the retard.