Obama State of the Union

[Anthrax]

Most of you have never been in a country run by communists.
Hell, I spent my childhood summers in one, and trust me, there are different kinds of socialism. Hungary was a bit weak sauce compared to some of the other eastern european countrys, but it left strong a distaste for old sovjet.

I´m a middle man. I would never stand for living in a place run by pure communism OR capitalism. Extremism in any form or way is a very dangerous thing.

[gwb72tii]

All I hear is excuses. Politicians this. Politicians that. Fuck that.

The US got their butt kicked in Nam after 15 years of atrocities. They'll have their butt kicked in Afghanistan and in Iraq because there's no way out. There was not one single reason to start both conflicts. Period. The reasons to enter these conflicts were all bogus. Fighting Reds in Nam and fighting terrorism in Afghanistan and Iraq. That's called hunting for White Elephants. Vietnam has never attacked the US. Afghans and Iraqis have never attacked the US either. The so-called terrorist mastermind is a Saudi. But hey, it's not too practical that he comes from the same family that supplies oil, so let's find scapegoats...

Whatever the US "patriots" on these board are taught to think, these are three shamefull wars that the US hasn't or won't win. And I am quite happy that it's only a minority of Americans who think how great these wars are/were. There are way more "wars" to fight within the country BTW.

ignorance is bliss

[Anthrax]

LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN DENMARK! No more Muslim immigrants to Kongeriket Danmark.

Not really. All they have to be is to be is a citizen of EU.
So muslims from Germany or Sweden can easily go over there and find work.
I worked there myself a couple of years ago, even though I´m catholic. Copenhagen is only like a halfhour away


But I agree that Fremskrittpartiet and Dansk Folkeparti are very hard on the muslim population.

[LBJefferies]

[E30 Cabrio]

Man you guys have way to much time to piss, bitch and moan. Your mouths and hands would be way more useful on my cock then on your cum covered computer keyboards typing out regurgitated shit from FOX.

Poll: Fox most trusted name in news
By: Andy Barr
January 26, 2010 05:35 PM EST
Fox is the most trusted television news network in the country, according to a new poll out Tuesday.

A Public Policy Polling nationwide survey of 1,151 registered voters Jan. 18-19 found that 49 percent of Americans trusted Fox News, 10 percentage points more than any other network.

Thirty-seven percent said they didn’t trust Fox, also the lowest level of distrust that any of the networks recorded.

There was a strong partisan split among those who said they trusted Fox — with 74 percent of Republicans saying they trusted the network, while only 30 percent of Democrats said they did.

CNN was the second-most-trusted network, getting the trust of 39 percent of those polled. Forty-one percent said they didn’t trust CNN.

Each of the three major networks was trusted by less than 40 percent of those surveyed, with NBC ranking highest at 35 percent. Forty-four percent said they did not trust NBC, which was combined with its sister cable station MSNBC.

Thirty-two percent of respondents said they trusted CBS, while 31 percent trusted ABC. Both CBS and ABC were not trusted by 46 percent of those polled.

“A generation ago you would have expected Americans to place their trust in the most neutral and unbiased conveyors of news,” said PPP President Dean Debnam in his analysis of the poll. “But the media landscape has really changed, and now they’re turning more toward the outlets that tell them what they want to hear.”

The telephone poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 percentage points.
© 2010 Capitol News Company, LLC

[E30 Cabrio]

Massive Lee and Obama have something in common:

They both spend a lot of time outside of the US bad-mouthing America.

[LBJefferies]

Poll: Fox most trusted name in news
By: Andy Barr
January 26, 2010 05:35 PM EST
Fox is the most trusted television news network in the country, according to a new poll out Tuesday.

A Public Policy Polling nationwide survey of 1,151 registered voters Jan. 18-19 found that 49 percent of Americans trusted Fox News, 10 percentage points more than any other network.

Thirty-seven percent said they didn’t trust Fox, also the lowest level of distrust that any of the networks recorded.

There was a strong partisan split among those who said they trusted Fox — with 74 percent of Republicans saying they trusted the network, while only 30 percent of Democrats said they did.

CNN was the second-most-trusted network, getting the trust of 39 percent of those polled. Forty-one percent said they didn’t trust CNN.

Each of the three major networks was trusted by less than 40 percent of those surveyed, with NBC ranking highest at 35 percent. Forty-four percent said they did not trust NBC, which was combined with its sister cable station MSNBC.

Thirty-two percent of respondents said they trusted CBS, while 31 percent trusted ABC. Both CBS and ABC were not trusted by 46 percent of those polled.

“A generation ago you would have expected Americans to place their trust in the most neutral and unbiased conveyors of news,” said PPP President Dean Debnam in his analysis of the poll. “But the media landscape has really changed, and now they’re turning more toward the outlets that tell them what they want to hear.”

The telephone poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 percentage points.
© 2010 Capitol News Company, LLC

That proves nothing except how completely and utterly retarded Americans are.

[Dozyproductions]

Poll: Fox most trusted name in news
By: Andy Barr
January 26, 2010 05:35 PM EST

Im not saying you're wrong or right but how does opinion constitute 'fair and balanced'?

[E30 Cabrio]

That proves nothing except how completely and utterly retarded Americans are.

Bzzzzzt!

It wouldn't have anything to do with the alphabet channels' descent into liberal hysterics. Oh no, it has to be the stupid public's inability to recognize the alphabets' "superiority" and instead flocking to the news channel that tells these intellectually lazy people how to think, right?

Wrong!

[E30 Cabrio]

Im not saying you're wrong or right but how does opinion constitute 'fair and balanced'?

Perhaps you need some more evidence and more convincing?

Campaign donations, 2008:


$297,187 was given by people who identified their occupation as "journalist"


$22,076 from 28 people to Republicans.
$275,111 from 312 people to Democrats.

http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?newest=1&type=occ&occ=journalist&search=Search

In addition to:
http://www.forbes.com/2009/11/14/fox...ter_print.html


http://www.journalism.org/node/13436#fn1 (Pew)

http://www.journalism.org/node/13307 (Pew)


http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/indus.php?ind=B02

http://www.opensecrets.org/industrie...goButt2=Submit

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx

18 of the top 20 media outlets lean left.
(UCLA Media study)

70% of MSM campaign donations have gone to the Dems since 1990
(Opensecrets.org )

Fox News provided the most fair & balanced election coverage last year.
(Pew Research)

MSNBC was the most biased. (Favored Obama)
(Pew Research)

The MSM showed a bias against McCain while favoring Obama.
(Pew Research)


Fox most balanced (Forbes)



Bottom line is that FNC gave Obama and McCain the exact same coverage, with a slight edge to Obama:

Positive Obama Stories 25%
Positive McCain Stories 22%

Negative Obama Stories 40%
Negative McCain Stories 40%

Meanwhile, the rest of the MSM gave Obama overwhelmingly positive coverage while giving the opposite to McCain

And, according to Gallup, 64% of the public said that the MSM are not doing a good job of holding Obama responsible for his actions:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125399/News-Media-Tepid-Ratings-Obama-Watchdog.aspx

Gallup also showed FNC to be the most balanced when it came to covering the 2008 election.

The URL I had bookmarked is 404, but a search might find it.

This is how and why FNC became the most trusted news source.
Not to mention the top rated cable news.

And note: No sourcing wing-nut, partisan, agenda-driven web sites or sources, except for HuffPo which was used to track donations by Journalists.

For those that are not intellectually lazy, I would suggest visiting each URL posted above and reading the contents from the non-biased sources as they will prove me right.

One thing about me when it comes to political debates - I never take a position or make a statement unless I have non-partisan sources to back it up.

[E30 Cabrio]

One more on FNC...

Watch Roger Ailes toy with the lefties attacking his network, FNC:



Wait until "The Boy Blunder" in the WH sees this.

[kronus]

BAM! E30 Cabrio realizes that he missed an OT thread about politics and attempts to take up the slack by posting EVERYTHING AT ONCE! The crowd goes wild!

in before he claims that my observation of his actions constitutes an admission that I have nothing constructive to refute his claims with, therefore he must be right.

[E30 Cabrio]

Gotta make up for lost time...

The Pew (PEJ) report for the 2008 election cycle is out.

Among the findings?

FOXNEWS provided the most balanced cable coverage of the 2008 presidential election among major news outlets (CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS) and likely the most balanced of all six outlets (NBC, CBS, ABC included), although they oddly didnt release the latter three network's numbers. Keep in mind, while Pew bills itself as Independent, it certainly leans to the left, which is probably why they didn't release all the numbers. God forbid they stated Fox News was the most fair of any television network, as it's doubtful any network bested the Fox numbers below since the Fox positive/negative are almost a perfect match. Interestingly, while they released the numbers for MSNBC and FOX, they didnt release individual CNN numbers, choosing to say it closely reflected the "Total Coverage" numbers below, putting it somewhere between MSNBC and FOX.

The Best (least biased) and the Worst (most biased) news coverage?

BEST (FOXNEWS)
Positive Obama Stories 25%
Positive McCain Stories 22%
Negative Obama Stories 40%
Negative McCain Stories 40%

WORST (MSNBC)
Positive Obama Stories 73%
Positive McCain Stories 10%
Negative Obama Stories 14%
Negative McCain Stories 43%

TOTAL COVERAGE (all media added together - 2,412 stories from 48 outlets)
Positive Obama Stories 36%
Positive McCain Stories 14%
Negative Obama Stories 29%
Negative McCain Stories 57%

Source: Pew Research.

Perhaps FNC isn't "right wing"
Perhaps the rest of the MSM is so far left-of-center, that by comparison, FNC is right in the middle.

At least that's what the 2008 election coverage says.

[E30 Cabrio]

"Everyone should have the right to plentiful and inexpensive gasoline."

[rwh11385]

"Everyone should have the right to plentiful and inexpensive gasoline."

Huh what? Who said that? A right to a low price of a limited good? Preposterous! That doesn't sound like free markets at all...

You know who subsidizes gas to make it cheap for its citizens? China.