Most blasphemous words I have ever read...

[freeride53]

funner.

[mr2peak]

If BMW hadn't found out how to make an ///M car faster in 30 years I would be very disappointed.

[Dj Buttchug]

too bad i dont have an account over there. I would be banned soon after seeing this haha

[Be30mer]

^^ tell me what to say.

[Bimmerman325i]

^^ tell me what to say.

I already posted in the thread a few days ago, no response from said douchenozzle.

I have a track prepped E36 M3, and used to have an E30 non-M. I'd sell mine in a heartbeat for an E30 M3, even if it's slower. I miss my E30, but love my E36.

The cars feel totally different, there's not much use in comparing them. The E36 handles better, stops better, accelerates better, yadda yadda, but because the limits of the car are so much higher than in the E30, it doesn't make you feel like a pro driver when you approach the limits like you do in the E30. The grin quotient is there, but it takes far higher silly stupid speeds to approach it. The E30 (I've never driven an M, just my old 325i) was stupid fun because its limits were so low that I could approach them far easier and safer and have more fun doing so.

[T Verdier]

Yeah a 3.2l making 240hp is nothing to brag about!

[Be30mer]

I already posted in the thread a few days ago, no response from said douchenozzle.

I have a track prepped E36 M3, and used to have an E30 non-M. I'd sell mine in a heartbeat for an E30 M3, even if it's slower. I miss my E30, but love my E36.

The cars feel totally different, there's not much use in comparing them. The E36 handles better, stops better, accelerates better, yadda yadda, but because the limits of the car are so much higher than in the E30, it doesn't make you feel like a pro driver when you approach the limits like you do in the E30. The grin quotient is there, but it takes far higher silly stupid speeds to approach it. The E30 (I've never driven an M, just my old 325i) was stupid fun because its limits were so low that I could approach them far easier and safer and have more fun doing so.

I'd trade my m3 for an equal condition e30 m3 any day of the week as well. My 1984 318i (believe it or not) has superior feel and agility than my e46 m3. It may not be as quick, but just as much fun in the corners. e30 ftmfw. e46 is too goddamn heavy to be as much fun. My dream car ,amidst all the current ferrari's lamborghini's, and porsche's, is still an e30 m3 with an s85 v10, a back breaking suspension, massive brakes, and some fat, sticky tires.

[F34R]

I don't care what anyone says, drove the new v8 M3. It has TONS of soul xD I am addicted to all that power! I just don't have the means to own one yet.

I do agree that the new M3s remove too much feel. Never drove an e30 M3, but after driving all M3s from 99+ I still feel more connection with my 325e. The lines of the body speak out and I get excited anew every time.

I have enough money into my current build to have bought a really nice e36 M3. No regrets!

[Eecen]

Who cares what some ass-hat thinks. The douche owner of the newer M3 wants to validate his purchase just as much as the douche E30 M3 owners want to validate theirs.

Fixed?

[StereoInstaller1]

Give me a car that looks like an E30 with something aside from semi-trailing arm rear and MacPhearson Strut front suspension!

Just simple double A arms up front would solve a lot of the E30s ills.

Eh, fuck it. I love my damn car. That guy is a douche.

[archie]

The guy likes Miatas, this must be his car?

Originally Posted by e36e46 View Post
I'm so sick of hearing the verbal diarrhea from e30 m3 owners. So they pull 195 hp out of a 4 cylinder engine and can go to 60 in around 7 seconds. The point is, that although their cars are more rare than latter m3 models, they perform worse in almost every objective performance category. 0-60, quarter mile, skidpad yadda yadda.

So their cars were 'groundbreaking' for the time and all that crap. Model T was groundbreaking for its time, but if a model T owner started putting down Ferraris or any car which spanks their own in so many categories, a good scoff would be in order. Likewise, all these geezers and M 'purists' who put down newer Ms because they aren't carbon copies of the original M3 are just grasping at straws because our newer Ms are empirically and thus objectively, far better cars.

"yes, but I can throw my e30 into corners." Awesome I can throw my e36 into corners too because it doesn't run on skinny wimpy little tires. Then I can accelerate out of those corners much faster and spank you down a straight without hearing the God-awful din of a tuned 4 cylinder car.

What are their criteria for claiming e30 superiority since it clearly is not set in empirical data? It's all this impossible to measure "driver experience" that I hear about. Well my driving experience in newer M cars is pretty friggin good too. Sour grapes because you e30ers are in the honda filled less-than-200 hp club. Except Hondas have bigger tires and nicer sounding 4 bangers.

e30s suck. If you want a great handling car that is underpowered get a miata for half the price. However if you want to hang with the big boys, get a modern contender so you don't have to put down our cars out of insecurity.

[Wh33lhop]

Sounds like he is secure in his purchases.

[CHIF8008]

hahaha gay miatas

[Fidhle007]

What cracks me up is that he lumps all E30s together. My old white car had mild coilovers, somewhat bigger brakes, 215 azenis and an S50 with the basic bolt-ons. And the driver was a n00b. That combo was enough to blow the doors off all of the N/A e36 M3s in my run group and hang tidily with the N/A e46 M3s at NHMS. I consider my car far inferior to to an e30 M3 both in heritage and potential but it was still damn fun to drive and I would have it over any later M3 if given the option.

I think the fact that it was 1000 lbs LIGHTER then the other cars helped with the fun factor too though...

[george graves]

Well, he got one part right. Stock E30 M3's are kinda slow. That's why all those s14's are getting yanked for s50's. Sad really, since it's not a real M3 after that. Or is it?

But, what are you going to do?