Considering Nissan's... 240sx/Silvia

[TheEtaUnderdog]

Not a fan of straight 6's in cars that were made for four cylinder engines. It just upsets the weight balance and makes them handle like crap.

[kalib0y]

when you say noisy do you mean engine noise, road/tire noise, or squeeks/rattles?


cause my e30 is plenty noisy in the road/tire noise department, and i'm always sure of what the engine is doing. doesn't bother me much! but i can't stand rattling interior pieces and squeeks from the chassis.


also.. what kind of mileage do you suppose these get? lets say it has an sr, mildly tuned (no big turbo beasts). i figure a 4 cylinder in a car <2800 pounds probably does pretty well.. but will it surpass the average 25 i get in my eta?

I failed to mention that I also had a loud GP sports race exhaust. I tried to muffle it down with a apex'i silencer but the back pressure killed alot of the power. I guess I grew out of trying to set off alarms even when I am not in a parking structure (yes im old)

I had all the bars and strut bars available to the car so it was plenty stiff but is not nearly as stiff af a bmw. The hatch is a big soft point on the car.

I got about high 20s in the mileage department. I dont know exactly becuase I never paid attention to my fill ups. All i can say is I never complained about the gas mileage.

like I said earlier, it was a blast to drive, looked cool in hatch form. I don't care much for the S13 coupes becuase I think the front end of the car doesnt match the rear in the US versions. I would have kept the car if I didnt live in CA, and it wasnt so noisy exhaust wise.

[pr0craztinazn]

I got my E30 project as something different after two S13s. Fixing poorly built SR swaps has paid the majority of my bills for the last few years, and has taught me to loathe the rocker arm headed versions (read: all factory RWD SRs). I lol'd at the shitty bottom end comment; most Nissan engines don't have such problems unless the owner is a moron. The KA doesn't get the love that it should; I sold my coupe to someone who ran it out of oil and put 36k on it before rod knock occurred... he forgot to refill the oil after draining it (case study example, I know, but even a moron needs time to kill one of those engines). My Altima's KA is slightly different but still just as reliable, has more torque due to different stock cams and factory ECU tune, and is more economical due to gearing; I haven't convinced myself to part with it for those reasons. The RBs taught me to love I6s, and that is ultimately what led me to the E30 world.

They are really fun cars, but the chassis isn't that stiff... that'd be my only complaint. If I had the opportunity to get another S13 base model coupe, I'd do it in a heartbeat, or a S14, since I have yet to own one long enough to track it. Nissan really nailed the car, and the aftermarket has made them capable of whatever you have the money to do. In terms of sales volume and aftermarket support, Nissan is the Japanese market equivalent to BMW... I think you'd enjoy it.

Unlike most other cars around, I wouldn't mind restoring a ghetto S-chassis back to where it should be; the parts are still available and still cheap.

[Chaos Theory]

Have you driven a JZ-powered S car? If done properly, they're just as well balanced as a near standard car but with more torque and more power. And they don't sound like trucks with fart cans.

If done properly which would involve cutting into the firewall and mounting the two rear most cylinders in there. JZ are great engines but they are extremely heavy. With that said, I haven't driven one but I have driven an RB powered S13. I belive a quad cam v6/v8 would be a better option.

I have to agree on the SR sounding like a truck motor though. Another little reason I like CA18's more.

[Iain]

Not a fan of straight 6's in cars that were made for four cylinder engines. It just upsets the weight balance and makes them handle like crap.

Have you driven a JZ-powered S car? If done properly, they're just as well balanced as a near standard car but with more torque and more power. And they don't sound like trucks with fart cans.

[Chaos Theory]

SR are junk. I'd go a built CA18DET over a built SR20DET, any day of the week. SR head design is weak as fuck and does not take a beating well. CA18DET LOVE TO REV.

Not a fan of straight 6's in cars that were made for four cylinder engines. It just upsets the weight balance and makes them handle like crap.

[xwill112x]

There are *plenty* of high hp KAs, I'm not arguing against that. Ka-t.org was started by a local guy here in Salem, whose KA made 633whp.


I just prefer the reliability and ease of upgrade of SR (which you dispute).

Everyone has their preference's and your not annoyingly posting without knowing what you're talking about and insults etc like some people, so i respect that. I would agree the SR is much easier to upgrade, but realiability is all on the builder etc. Most Ka-t's are half assed when built, thats why they tend to pop. The KA engine has to be built as system rather than slapping on parts as you would a sr to gain power. They weren't designed for boost, but do handle 10-12psi at 260hp nicely, and when you pop it, Ka's are dime a dozen, sometimes free.

Your mother should have dropped you. Skull first.

LOL :wgaf:

[Iain]

No one builds them because they are a US only engine for 1, and they're not boosted factory. Why do i keep having to explain this. Drop it. :wgaf:

Your mother should have dropped you. Skull first.

[e1_griego]

I used to get about 34mpgs on the freeway with my turbo m42. I'd imagine it would be comparable.

Yup, 30mpg if I stay out of the wastegate. 24 mpg in mixed driving.

Not bad for 350whp.

There are *plenty* of high hp KAs, I'm not arguing against that. Ka-t.org was started by a local guy here in Salem, whose KA made 633whp.

I just prefer the reliability and ease of upgrade of SR (which you dispute).

[xwill112x]

How many 500kW KAs do you hear about?
How many 400kW KAs do you hear about?

No one builds them because they are a US only engine for 1, and they're not boosted factory. Why do i keep having to explain this. Drop it. :wgaf:

[evandael]

I used to get about 34mpgs on the freeway with my turbo m42. I'd imagine it would be comparable.

i've been reading around and it seems like only in poor repair or with a shitty tune will it dip below the 20s. otherwise it seems to be 20/30 or better city/highway, which is just grand.


life is full of tough choices

[Danny]

when you say noisy do you mean engine noise, road/tire noise, or squeeks/rattles?


cause my e30 is plenty noisy in the road/tire noise department, and i'm always sure of what the engine is doing. doesn't bother me much! but i can't stand rattling interior pieces and squeeks from the chassis.


also.. what kind of mileage do you suppose these get? lets say it has an sr, mildly tuned (no big turbo beasts). i figure a 4 cylinder in a car <2800 pounds probably does pretty well.. but will it surpass the average 25 i get in my eta?

I used to get about 34mpgs on the freeway with my turbo m42. I'd imagine it would be comparable.

[Iain]

You people can think what you want about me, i personally dont care. All i was saying was that a properly built KA will last longer than a comparable SR.

How many 500kW KAs do you hear about?
How many 400kW KAs do you hear about?

[evandael]

..great car, good power, just too noisy for me..

when you say noisy do you mean engine noise, road/tire noise, or squeeks/rattles?


cause my e30 is plenty noisy in the road/tire noise department, and i'm always sure of what the engine is doing. doesn't bother me much! but i can't stand rattling interior pieces and squeeks from the chassis.


also.. what kind of mileage do you suppose these get? lets say it has an sr, mildly tuned (no big turbo beasts). i figure a 4 cylinder in a car <2800 pounds probably does pretty well.. but will it surpass the average 25 i get in my eta?

[kalib0y]

my old 89 hatch, Sr20, with working AC, RS watanabe 2pc, cusco 2 way diff, HKS hypermax II coilvoers, HKS turbo Upgrade...

great car, good power, just too noisy for me. BMWs satisfy my motorsport needs

this was around 1999