Would an F20C fit into an E30?

[FredK]

Sorry, I should have qualified that. Bare bones meaning everything internal is replaced. It would get you a great rebuilt engine that will last another 100K miles. If you skimp on things, you'll sacrifice reliability.

[sofargone561]

People are so damn crazy nowadays, " oh yeah ya just drill a hole here and here and you can bolt that shit to that other shit and make a trillion hp"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1f5aQy4Ri8&sns=em

One of my dealers in Turkey With my Stage 3 kit, 800+ RWHP vs his buddies EK K20 turbocharged

LMAO!

ill watch the vid later. Im at work and flash is disabled

[John T]

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/t...p/viewall.html

Beat me to it, I was just thinking "I think there's a tranny plate involved in the K/F hybrid"

[5Toes]

I really really want to KA24DE-T an e30 one day. Bore it to a 2.5, lightweight pulleys, megasquirt, t28.

Thats plenty of power, less weight, better weight distribution, and as cheap as a m50 (minus custom fab work)

[Massimo]

Question: So the F20C wont fit because of the oil pan and requires a lot of work and money. Now I don't really know how much dry sump systems cost but I estimate in the $1500 range.

Would this fix the fitment issue, if you ask me $1500 is a small price to pay instead of major body/chassie work.

[Mr. Tasty]

This setup makes well over 1k whp, I'm from the Honda world originally and if you have never played with water you default to thinking fire is better when in actuality water puts fire out.

The k series bolts to the s2000 tranny and you have a rwd, it's that easy, just because it came in a fwd dosent mean it's not a good motor.

K24 with k20 head are cookie cutter 300whp+ NA motors.
For NA horsepower to engine displacement Honda has been at the top for a while with the intro of the f20c taking over reins from the mighty s14, not even apples to apples when you compare motors; the s14 is way more performance outfitted.

I've thought about and am still thinking about this swap into my own e30 due to the responsiveness of the motor, I turbocharge BMW'S for a living but I am an NA guy at heart so response is big for me. My Honda that sits in the garage next to my vert will peg the 10,100 limiter BEFORE the pedal touches the floor, typical of a tuned Honda.

Oh yeah, the F20c and predecessor F22 will both make 600+whp all day on a 100% factory motor with the correctly sized turbocharger, once again pretty cookie cutter for the S2000.

I haven't pulled the trigger on this swap yet because honestly;

F20/F22 w/ trans = ~4k
S54 w/ trans = ~ 4k ( and yes I have bought them At this price)

S54 is the better for the price, I just sacrifice a bit of low throttle response due to the individual throttles - easy fix

you are talking to someone who knows about as much as you. I came from the ep3 scene from the past 4years lulz

[Farbin Kaiber]

Question: So the F20C wont fit because of the oil pan and requires a lot of work and money. Now I don't really know how much dry sump systems cost but I estimate in the $1500 range.

Would this fix the fitment issue, if you ask me $1500 is a small price to pay instead of major body/chassie work.

http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/product/oilpan/f20c-drysamp.html

About $1300.00, food estimate. This was the one I was looking at when I had a spare f20 in 2007.

[sofargone561]

http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/prod...c-drysamp.html

About $1300.00, food estimate. This was the one I was looking at when I had a spare f20 in 2007.

toda <3

[FredK]

Isn't that Toda drysump kit around $13,000? At least, that's what 1 million yen is.

[Massimo]

Isn't that Toda drysump kit around $13,000? At least, that's what 1 million yen is.

That is a bit steep I would say $1300 is on the money. Pumps are a few hundred plus sump, oil tank hoses and any connections to the engine. $13,000 I think not. Then again anything TODA you can times buy 10

[Farbin Kaiber]

I fail.

[325ix]

That is definitely 13k. Just a lil steep for an engine swap.

[John T]

you are talking to someone who knows about as much as you. I came from the ep3 scene from the past 4years lulz

Sorry, I caught the username but didn't want to assume. Being from the Honda world why would you quote that RWD K series drag car as being stupid, and the F20 as not being boost friendly. Both of those scenarios being very common and well known in the Honda scene.

[Pinepig]

KA24 turbo would be much better.. CHEAP. Just saw one with a t28 pushing 230WHP yesterday

Why would you even bother swapping a motor at all if you only wanted 230 with a turbo, the lowliest stock equipped E30 ( M10 ) could do 230 wheel on the cheep with a turbo.

[E30 Wagen]

my conclusion is that you're better off just using a BMW engine.