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  • MaksV
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Oct 2010
    • 1042

    #31
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    • Earendil
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jun 2009
      • 1662

      #32
      Originally posted by Charlie
      As for peformance differences? Not sure how you'd even bother to compare them.
      If we're talking about comparing operating systems, or on a scale like "which is better", I would agree with you. But it sounds like the OP has someone telling him that Indy cars are "faster", which it turns out is a readily measure thing for race cars.

      F1 is based around teams with 400 million dollar yearly budgets building bespoke chassis whereas Indycar is based around a spec Dallara chassis built to a 500k cost cap with an engine lease program limited to 1.25 million for an entire season.

      Based apon comments from Rubens Barrichello and Pippa Mann, who have driven both the current generation of F1 cars and the current Dallara Indycar, the indy car is "harder" to drive, owing to substantially less downforce and a lack of power steering. Rubens also expressed shock at the much different engine setup, be it a 10k limited turbocharged V6 that actually produces low end torque coupled to no traction control, vs a much higher reving and less torquey F1 V8.

      -Charlie
      If someone tells me that their mouse is faster than my horse, and I call bullshit, they don't get to then complaint that it's not fair because my horse has longer legs and more muscle, and was trained as a champion racer, while he found his mouse lodged under his dash just last week.

      Now, there is some room to ask for a definition of "fast". Is that maximum speed? acceleration? slalom course? Not to mention that a hot lap is different than wheel-to-wheel racing. But for the sake of argument let's say we mean wheel to wheel racing on the kinds of courses both of these cars frequent. In which case, the F1 car wins for a lot of reasons, but it will win.
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      • george graves
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Oct 2003
        • 19986

        #33
        Topgear and/or mythbusters needs to find out.
        Originally posted by Matt-B
        hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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        • joshh
          R3V OG
          • Aug 2004
          • 6195

          #34
          Typical, a car made to drive around in circles is for pussies.

          Circle racing is the Jersey Shore of TV Programs.
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          • george graves
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Oct 2003
            • 19986

            #35
            Well, it use to be there was the IRL and then Indycars. IRL did almost all ovals, and Indycars did almost all road courses.
            Originally posted by Matt-B
            hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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            • e30rapidic
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2003
              • 2167

              #36
              Originally posted by joshh
              Typical, a car made to drive around in circles is for pussies.

              Circle racing is the Jersey Shore of TV Programs.
              You ever done it?? STFU
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              • lolcantturn
                R3V Elite
                • Oct 2010
                • 4588

                #37
                Originally posted by joshh
                Typical, a car made to drive around in circles is for pussies.

                Circle racing is the Jersey Shore of TV Programs.
                It might be silly to watch

                but I dare you step into one of those cars and maintain 200mph, 3inches from the car in front of you, while the rear end is bouncing and hopping around waiting to come around.
                Originally posted by TSI
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                • cale
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2331

                  #38
                  I don't think he was implying it's easy, simply that it's a ridiculous form of racing and doesn't exactly push the limits of what is possible. The restrictions are imposed by poor vehicle design and cars being adapted to an uncreative track. It may be a difficult discipline, as would getting a donkey drunk and trying to race them up a hill...I'm not about to plop down on a saturday to watch donkey racing just as I'm not going to sit down to watch oval track anything.

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                  • grahamsy2k
                    E30 Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 400

                    #39
                    Originally posted by joshh
                    Typical, a car made to drive around in circles is for pussies.

                    Circle racing is the Jersey Shore of TV Programs.

                    I agree with you.


                    Im sure it takes real talent to driver around in circles.
                    I mean look. there is a women driver in nascar.
                    All just means to an end.

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                    • lolcantturn
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 4588

                      #40
                      Originally posted by grahamsy2k
                      I agree with you.


                      Im sure it takes real talent to driver around in circles.
                      I mean look. there is a women driver in nascar.

                      Originally posted by TSI
                      ♫ Rust flecks are falling on my head...♫
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                      • z31maniac
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 17566

                        #41
                        Originally posted by grahamsy2k
                        I agree with you.


                        Im sure it takes real talent to driver around in circles.
                        I mean look. there is a women driver in nascar.
                        And there are two in DTM.
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                        • grahamsy2k
                          E30 Addict
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 400

                          #42
                          dannica quit indy car. because she was so bad.
                          All just means to an end.

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                          • Thizzelle
                            R3V Elite
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 4422

                            #43
                            her tits probablly got in the way, atleast that's what the women golfers say.
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                            • z31maniac
                              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 17566

                              #44
                              Originally posted by grahamsy2k
                              dannica quit indy car. because she was so bad.
                              She went to NASCAR where she could earn more from the team and in sponsorships.

                              Jesus most of you are dolts.
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                              • Thizzelle
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 4422

                                #45
                                Originally posted by z31maniac
                                She went to NASCAR where she could earn more from the team and in sponsorships.

                                Jesus most of you are dolts.
                                she still sucks waffleswaffleswaffles
                                "I wanna see da boat movie"
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