Stupid tool sets

[VinniE30]

Have you ever worked on a car? Have multiples of the same size in different drive combinations is a useful thing depending on the torque needed, space available, etc......
Max

Obviously didin't read what I said. I understand the point of having different size drives.
But having very small sockets in large size drive and vice versa is unnecessary. Like can you think of something that the only option to use is a 9mm 12 point 1/2 drive where nothing else would do the job? Not a 9mm 3/8 drive? That's what i'm talking about. It's stupid. If that bolt needed to be torqued down that hard that you can't use a 3/8 drive then the manufacturer would have used a larger bolt and using a 12 point on a bolt that small that needs so much torque that it's necessary to use 1/2 drive is going to grind down the corners.
So almost every socket size is duplicated in 3 different drive sizes AND 12 point and 6 point AND a deep socket of it.

Yeah multiple drives of the same size is never a bad thing. There has been plenty of things that I needed two sockets for and ended up using the different drive sizes. Also I don't know that hate towards 12 point, I've never had any issue with them. Do you prefer 6 point box wrenches as well?

I can see how 12 point combination wrenches are useful

You have reading comprehension problems. That wasn't the point at all.

[VinniE30]

The day you need a small set up like the 1/4" you'll regret not having them. Or in the opposite case. Breaking a 3/8" because you don't have a 1/2" set up.

I'm definitely getting a set that has 1/4 3/8 and 1/2 drives. But you don't need the very small sockets in 1/2 drive and the very big sockets in 1/4 drive because typically smaller bolts are torqued less than big ones.

[5Toes]

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-260-p...3&blockType=G3

everything you will ever need, minus wrenches

My buddy ahs this and I love it. Just grab a tray and take it to the work area with you

[broke30]

Obviously didin't read what I said. I understand the point of having different size drives.
But having very small sockets in large size drive and vice versa is unnecessary. Like can you think of something that the only option to use is a 9mm 12 point 1/2 drive where nothing else would do the job? Not a 9mm 3/8 drive? That's what i'm talking about. It's stupid. If that bolt needed to be torqued down that hard that you can't use a 3/8 drive then the manufacturer would have used a larger bolt and using a 12 point on a bolt that small that needs so much torque that it's necessary to use 1/2 drive is going to grind down the corners.
So almost every socket size is duplicated in 3 different drive sizes AND 12 point and 6 point AND a deep socket of it.

I'll ask again, have you ever worked on a car before? Plenty of times I have used even an 8mm on a half inch drive or even an impact set at low setting. For example, when releasing the fork tubes from the stays, 8mm on an allen key and an impact to knock it a couple of times. Additionally, if you buy the craftsman set, I don't know how many ratchets and sockets alike that I have broken, leaving my with the option to use a small sized socket on a large drive. They do it for a reason

Max

[VinniE30]

I'll ask again, have you ever worked on a car before? Plenty of times I have used even an 8mm on a half inch drive or even an impact set at low setting. For example, when releasing the fork tubes from the stays, 8mm on an allen key and an impact to knock it a couple of times. Additionally, if you buy the craftsman set, I don't know how many ratchets and sockets alike that I have broken, leaving my with the option to use a small sized socket on a large drive. They do it for a reason

Max

Yes.
And you could have just used the 8mm 3/8 drive.
And they will replace it for free under warranty if you break anything.

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Originally Posted by VinniE30
I can see how 12 point combination wrenches are useful

You have reading comprehension problems. That wasn't the point at all.

Somehow I missed that inner quote

[slammin.e28]

I didn't read any of this. I just stopped in to say, "Hi!"

[10Toes]

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-260-p...3&blockType=G3

everything you will ever need, minus wrenches

My buddy ahs this and I love it. Just grab a tray and take it to the work area with you

I hate tool sets that have SAE, when will they just stop and make all tool sets with out any SAE crap.

[Kershaw]

when the USA stops using SAE nuts and bolts.

[slammin.e28]

My whole tool set is Whitworth. It's the wave of the future boys. Buck up!

[Click]

Hazet is where it's at

[broke30]

Yes.
And you could have just used the 8mm 3/8 drive.
And they will replace it for free under warranty if you break anything.

Evidently reading evades you. I used an impact because with just a 3/8 drive, the strut tube would turn. Additionally, that was just one example. And what I said about breaking the tools, it doesn't always happen at the most opportune time, ergo, you need another means to complete a job. You can buy whatever tool kit you like bud, they outfit them the way they do for a reason though.
:roll:

Max

[Zacm829]

You get what you pay for. Why is having too many of one socket a bad thing?

I just got the referenced Craftsman kit and its a great bargain for the price, pony up.

[Sailor37]

I hate tool sets that have SAE, when will they just stop and make all tool sets with out any SAE crap.

i bought a '01 chevy truck a couple months ago...first time I've used any standard size wrenches in about 5 years.

what pisses me off about american cars, is that they mix standard and metric fasteners on the same vehicle...i don't know if that's still the case, but I don't really care to find out.