ex-LAPD - Chris Dorner

[deutschman]

And did they here this single gun shot before or after the fire was set?
If they herd him shoot him self, why not send an EOD robot in there and check him out? This is 2013 after all.
If the house caught fire and then he shot him self why didnt they send the FD in? Hoses shoot water nice and fare and cooked off rounds wont do much harm if any to people out side of the house.
Also why did they use PYROtechnic gas in a log cabin? I am no expert on what kinds of tear gas rounds there are, but it seams they might have made a more prudent selection.

[decay]

I dont understand how all of the LA ghettos aren't rioting right now... burned alive is a bit more drastic that beaten with batons and they went apeshit for that.

he was a cop. in compton et al, they are thinking "house n-word got what he asked for".

[Cha Ching]

Psychotic killers dont right manifestos with with pretty decent grammar and punctuation. Really? What evidence do you have to support this? You are aware that the standard serial-killer formula is a middle-aged white male with above-average intelligence, right? Plus these "murders" have not been proven except for the cops that got shot trying to apprehend him. Pardon my candor, but you are delusional to think otherwise. I'm all for, "innocent until proven guilty", but believe me, there is more than enough evidence to convict Dorner of these murders even now. Mind you all but one of the deaths were police force related. Interesting observation, but I'm not sure what you mean by saying, "all but one of the deaths was police force related."? Elaborate, please.

Also, from the manifesto he wasn't boo hooing as you say, from what it says they were being fairly cruel and racist not only to fellow officers but also to convicts/apprehended people. Just because you get a badge doesn't mean you get to beat on people when you like. We have a difference of opinion here. I've read his manifesto and in my opinion it does make him out to be a chronic complainer. Now, whether or not each and every situation was justified is not for me to discuss, because they are moot points with regards to his actions. The same goes for your comment about, "...a badge doesn't mean you get to beat on people when you like.". I completely and utterly agree with you, but again, that's not the point. The point is for all his rhetoric, NONE of it is a justification to start a killing spree.

Still, Criminal, psycho, or not, burning someone to death is redic, and if they heard a shot and assumed he was dead why fire tear gas into it. Honestly they should have quarantined the area of suspect, evacuated all the innocents, then waited it out with snipers or military units. Trying to "take him down" as they would say, only risks more lives and is a waste of resources. I'm not sure what 'redic' means, but I agree, burning someone to death is not good. However, I do take into account that Dorner's actions directly led to his own demise. The response teams onsite do not have the luxury of, "assuming he was dead" when that single gunshot was fired. They have to assume the worse, which is not that he took his life, but that he took the life of a hostage. Suffice it to say, there is much, much more that LE has to deal with in these scenarios then you, me, or the general public will ever be able to fathom. Just know that, although you may not agree or understand why police/LE do what they do in these situations, they do things with the preservation of public safety first and foremost in their minds. With that regard, there is no such thing as, "a waste of resources".

LAPD didn't make any good tactical decisions from the news footage In my opinion. Did I miss something here? I don't believe the LAPD was involved in any way with how this ended. Big Bear is outside of their jurisdiction and they were not in, "hot pursuit". It was San Bernardino County Sheriff's and Fish & Game Wardens that were involved. But to your point, tactical errors are always a reality because every scenario is different.

I understand the "killer" aspect and wanting to protect the people. But this still seems fishy.

"tin foil hat on" Nice hat!

[ButtJuice]

Psychotic killers dont right manifestos with with pretty decent grammar and punctuation. Plus these "murders" have not been proven except for the cops that got shot trying to apprehend him. Mind you all but one of the deaths were police force related.

Also, from the manifesto he wasn't boo hooing as you say, from what it says they were being fairly cruel and racist not only to fellow officers but also to convicts/apprehended people. Just because you get a badge doesn't mean you get to beat on people when you like.

Still, Criminal, psycho, or not, burning someone to death is redic, and if they heard a shot and assumed he was dead why fire tear gas into it. Honestly they should have quarantined the area of suspect, evacuated all the innocents, then waited it out with snipers or military units. Trying to "take him down" as they would say, only risks more lives and is a waste of resources.

LAPD didn't make any good tactical decisions from the news footage In my opinion.

I understand the "killer" aspect and wanting to protect the people. But this still seems fishy.

"tin foil hat on"

I noticed a lot of grammatical errors in his "manifesto", it annoyed me. But compared to the average r3v tard, his grammar was impeccable. :p

[Cha Ching]

A "cooked off" round will not hurt Anyone. It'll just pop the bullet off. For it to kill or severely injure someone it needs a barrel to build the proper pressure For sake of argument I'll just say that I wouldn't want to be pressing my luck around exposed rounds and an open flame. But from a tactical perspective and in the 'rush' of a situation like this, it's hard to tell if someone is firing a gun at you or what. Better safe then sorry if you want to go home at the end of your shift.

They were never planning on putting it out

I don't agree with his killings but its fucked up they burned him. Like someone said, this is not the Middle Ages Middle Age methods-of-death notwithstanding, Dorner's actions led to his own demise (take a deep breath and say it again, it's okay). The only reason he burned was his inability or refusal to come out of the cabin. The sad reality is that Dorner knew ahead of time how this was all going to end for him. I really do believe he needed some professional help, I am sad about that.

My tin foil hat is also on ;) OK where can I get one of these damn hats?! I think I also need one!

[DÌEGØ]

There is no such thing as, "incendiary tear gas". You're probably repeating what uninformed or misinformed media are representing to the public. Also, what do you mean, by, "If they wanted to smoke him out..."? They aren't trying to smoke anyone out. The purpose of tear gas is to get the suspect to walk out under his own accord. Where are you getting this information about pushing walls down to, "...let in fresh air"??

You also appear to be mixing agencies. LAPD had nothing to do with the shootout at the cabin, it's outside their jurisdiction. Several agencies were involved including LA County Sheriff's and Fish and Game Wardens.

Pyrotecnic tear gas is known to be flamable
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"Cops were heard saying: 'We're gonna go forward with the plan, with, er, with the burn. We want it, er, like we talked about. ... Seven burners [tear gas canisters] deployed and we have a fire.....We're going to burn him out ... Burn this motherfucker!'"

I guess I meant they wanted to "gas him out" with tear gas. But yet they're tearing down walls?? Wouldn't they want the tear gas to stay concentrated inside to be effective?

both parties where wrong IMO

I heard today they had confirmed it was his body. via dental records

[deutschman]

I hope the people whos hows it was get a sweet new house. It would suck to see your place on fire on the news.

[CabbE30]

Anyone else hear that the tipsters wont be receiving any reward because LAPD killed him instead. Apparently the reward was for information leading to the capture of Dorner and since he is supposedly dead now there will be no reward for the couple whom called about Dorner's whereabouts.

[e30_3I8I]

hHHAH what did you expect ?

[slammin.e28]

Anyone else hear that the tipsters wont be receiving any reward because LAPD killed him instead. Apparently the reward was for information leading to the capture of Dorner and since he is supposedly dead now there will be no reward for the couple whom called about Dorner's whereabouts.

LAPD.....assholes.

[Dj Buttchug]

so is the dude dead or no?

[slammin.e28]

so is the dude dead or no?

Nope.

[Stanley Rockafella]

All i gotta say....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51t1OsPSdBc

[Dj Buttchug]

Nope.

fucking insane. This shits been going on for two weeks lol

[craiggroves91]

fucking insane. This shits been going on for two weeks lol

You're joking right?

They identified his body through dental records. He is DEAD.

Unless I missed something