Hawthorne Police Officer shooting dog. (NSFW)

[Vedubin01]

Saw this and passing it along for those that would like to write or call.

[Redfox]

very DUMB Comment, and stereotypical at that. The man is 50+ years old, "obviously putting up a show for the hood" you're an ignorant fool dude. I wonder what you'll have to say about that "hood" if he'd been white.

First of all, don't refer to me as a dude, bro, because I'm not. Step off.

Second of all, I live in a town that is being taken over with the same ignorant types of people, who test the waters with police, question their authority, and pull the race card, privileges (or lack there of), bad situations, etc all the time.

The guy shouldn't have been there in the first place, he brought the large dog there, he left the windows down enough for it to jump out and he pissed off the cops, more his fault than the cops. I love animals but i would have shot it if it had come at me.

The problem with mace and tazer is that a dog like a rotti (I love rotties, I was a vet asst for a year so this was hard to see) will fight or die to protect their owner. Mace or tazing generally doesn't stop these dogs that are determined to sacrifice their lives for their owners. I feel awful for the dog. But the fault lies in the hands of the owner for putting the dog in the situation to begin with. He knows his dog would protect him and leaving the windows wide open was an invitation for the dog to come and freak out on who was "hurting" their master.

If this guy was such a great owner, the dog would have been trained enough to follow simple commands such as "stop, sit, heel," etc. It comes down to it being the OWNERS fault, he put the dog in that situation. Had he not antagonized the police and walked by without purpose, making an obvious attempt to cause a disturbance in what appeared to be a pretty serious crime scene/bust (judging by the 4 other cop cars there) the dog would be alive. Or if he had properly trained the dog to obey and sit, the dog would be alive.

Der Affe, my boyfriend, has a German bred rottweiler, who knows commands in English as well as German. The dog obeys and listens to everything he says. If you are going to own a dog that weighs 100-150 pounds that was bred to defend till the death of/for the owner, masters, pack, etc, you need to train it. I've seen too many cases such as these come into our vet clinic, and because the dog thought the owner was threatened, ended up having to be shot to get it's jaws off of persons. I can't tell you the number of attacks that happen from untrained dogs that end up in the dog having to be put down, all because it was doing what was instinctual. It isn't the dog's fault, again, it was/is the owners.

After your dog (who is untrained, didn't know any better, owner negligence) who attacked somebody is euthanized, we cut through the skull with a dremmel and remove your dog's brain. The brain is then sent out to be screened for rabies and the like. Your dog gets dragged away and put down because of aggression and being untrained. You can't even view the body unless you would like to pay extra for the skull cap to be put back in place and the scalp of the animal stitched back together.

Moral of the story? Take your dog to classes or train them correctly, don't put your dog in situations that could intentionally lead to the dogs demise. It comes down to it being the owners fault.

[z31maniac]

Not all cops put their lives on the line daily for others. Generalizing that every police officer in this country is a straight and narrow stand up guy is ignorant, some cops, like the one in this video, have boring patrol/traffic jobs, and wait for the chance to shoot something.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[Arems87e]

+1
Lesson- do not be stupid around police.

I guess trigger happy cop couldn't wait to find a live target to shoot at. pepper spray or taser the dog? NO... but the best possible option was to pump not 1, but FOUR freaking bullets into a fucking dog, to make sure its dead..

I can't believe some you'll in here defending the deplorable action of this cop.

[plmichal]

Ftp

[Nick_S]

Wall of words

very well said. :up:

[Arems87e]

THIS


The dumbass thought he would be slick, funny, and try to video tape them. He was obviously putting on a show for the rest of the ghetto and needed to show off.

How many times did this piece of crap pass the cops while there is already an ongoing crime scene going on? He could have been a spectator leaking info or possibly involved. The cops didn't know.

It's just like irresponsible pit bull owners. He put his dog in that situation, as terrible as it was to watch, he shouldn't have antagonized the cops. He knew his dog would defend him, Rotti's are very protective of their owners. If a 120-150 pound dog was lunging and attacking me I would shoot it too. The officers waited till it lunged several times before shooting. And I was a VETERINARY ASSISTANT and I still feel this way. Your safety comes before a strange animals, especially one showing aggressive signs towards you.

Another day in the hood in this video and the guy made his dog pay for it. If anyone has a right to be mad it should be at the the irresponsible owner who felt he had to be funny and put on a show for the hood.

very DUMB Comment, and stereotypical at that. The man is 50+ years old, "obviously putting up a show for the hood" you're an ignorant fool dude. I wonder what you'll have to say about that "hood" if he'd been white.

[Dozyproductions]

unless the guy was threatening the officers, he was fully within his rights to be filming, mouthing off, listening to music, and walking around with his dog. his rights were violated at the point of detention (cuffing). I'm sorry, but the police provoked the dog by violating his owners constitutional rights and should therefore be held responsible.

There is no other way to interpret this unless we have more information.

[smitche]

unless the guy was threatening the officers, he was fully within his rights to be filming, mouthing off, listening to music, and walking around with his dog. his rights were violated at the point of detention (cuffing). I'm sorry, but the police provoked the dog by violating his owners constitutional rights and should therefore be held responsible.

edit: and yes, detention by a government agency for practicing your rights is an act of terrorism

[Dozyproductions]

As is an individual claiming the shooting of a dog lunging at cops is an act of terrorism.

Maybe I'm just unpatriotic?

Look up further definitions of terrorism. It's basically coercion through violence. If you're naive enough that the only form of terrorism wackos blowing up buildings or kids then you have some more searching to do, or more common sense to push into your brain.

To SERVE and PROTECT is the only duty the cops have. Yet now it's a us vs them mentality. How are all these stories you hear of police brutality not an act of terrorism. Many people consider their dogs as part of their family. Seeing their dog shot in front of them would 'terrorize' them. Voila.

If death is the preferred sentence before the crime is committed then you go past everything that you troll about in the political forum.

[QUKBMER]

That being said, if my dog is ever shot in a situation like that, the shooter would probably end up needing a facial reconstruction surgery. Disregard the life of my dog and I'll disregard your nasal bone structure.

This to the full degree !!!:hitler:

[cale]

Justifying the police's actions is scary to hear from you people.

As is an individual claiming the shooting of a dog lunging at cops is an act of terrorism.

Maybe I'm just unpatriotic?

[Dozyproductions]

Well Filming of the police doing their job from a distance on public ROW or Property is 100% legal. Most cops dont like being filmed doing their job, and will try and strong arm you into stopping and even demand to witness your delete the files if you "dont want be jailed" on some BS charge. SO if you knuckle under to them and comply when you were doing nothing illegal in the 1st place, You tell me where we are living when the agents of the state can act like this and get away with it time and time again.

This dude was held over night on "SUSPICION of obstruction of justice and was released at 5 a.m. the next morning. From what I have found NO CHARGES WERE ACTUALLY FILED. So he gets a night in Jail and a dead dog for filming the police and playing some music over a block away. What about all the other cars that drive around with stereos that you can hear from a 1/2 mile off. Why were the police not chasing down those cars for obstruction and interfering with a police operation???

Because this guy was filming a the barricade line the police set up of a SWAT team dealing with a robbery. Questionable behavior from a guy with a bit of a history with the local L/E and asking for trouble? YES................... Illegal MOST DEFIANTLY NOT...... deserve to be tossed in jail for the night on some trumped up charge, and have to deal with watching them kill your dog FUCK NO....


Yes cops have to deal with the dregs of society, and that can get to you. But in being a cop there is no way in this day and age you DIDN"T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING YOUR SELF INTO. Police have a higher standard to be held to, especially those that deal with the public, I am not guilty of a crime just for walking around at 2am, I am not guilty of a crime just for driving though, I am not guilty of a crime for taking pictures of buildings or cops doing their job. I, you an everyone else is INNOCENT until proven guilty........ Something that has been lost in the translation in the last 30 years of just doing their job. The L/E agents of all aspects are becoming the protected class, and their methodology is getting more and more ruthless as so are their fuck ups

While I can agree with F4 there that its ultimately the idiots fault for his dog getting shot by putting himself and his animal in a position where this could happen, it most certainly should never have happened and the police should not have been messing with a citizen doing nothing wrong like they were.

x2

"Putting himself and his dog in that position" is what's wrong as you later added. There shouldn't be such a "position" for him to put himself in, in the first place!

Justifying the police's actions is scary to hear from you people.

[10Toes]

^^ we need a racist commie button here.

[GaryE30]

We need a "like" button here because ^^^^

I couldn't agree more with the second half of this statement.