Hawthorne Police Officer shooting dog. (NSFW)

[Mr. Tasty]

many lols in this thread. thank you

[der affe]

i have an example of what you are talking about.
i was pulled over in Paradise Valley for doing 83 in a 45 pmh zone at 3 am.
i was on my way back from the emergency vet with my rotti after a 1 month stay for flesh eating bacteria and had to go to work the next morning.

the officer came to my driver window and say the dog in the pass seat. although the dog showed not signs of agression, he asked me to please exit the car so as not to upset the dog.

i explained my situation and admitted that i knew i was speeding but because of the empty road i had no idea how fast i was going.

he understood and being a dog owner himself, he wrote the ticket for 19 over the posted limit and let me go home.

in AZ if you are arrested and have an animal they will call animal control and have them remove the dog normally.

[LSM3]

Blaming the police for the actions of the dog is like blaming this kid for throwing a temper tantrum which resulted in an attack and the child's death.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boy-survived-oklahoma-tornado-mauled-bull-mastiff/story?id=19374022

If he would not have thrown the tantrum and yelled at the dogs owner, the dog wouldn't have attacked him....come on.

Furthermore please let's not sit here and ACT as if all dogs are the same and its only the owners. Some breeds are naturally MORE aggressive. Couple that with the ABILITY to cause great bodily damage ie large/muscular and you have the potential for a bad situation.

Its a sad situation all the way around. The fact is the police did not CAUSE this situation. Let's play devils advocate and say the detainment was 100% justified. Does that now mean that the police are NOT to blame? Cause if they are to blame then how would they go about detaining people with dogs? "Sorry, can't detain that guy cause we don't want to provoke his dog" ?? Should they uncuff someone to detain their dog? OR SHOULD DOG OWNERS JUST BE RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO SECURE THEIR ANIMALS????

Point blank if that dog was secured this would of never happened. The police have the authority to detain citizens. We have NO IDEA what occurred prior to the video. Its obvious the dog owner knew he was going to be contacted because he put the dog in the car and walked back to the officers and complied. For all we know he was released after the shooting. The only difference is his dog would be alive if it didn't get out.

[der affe]

i'll bite with a pic.



he is a little tired after a 3 mile afternoon walk

[delatlanta1281]

I am moving to the land of humidity to be with my future wife......;)

Dude Farbin lives in Idaho or some shit.

[Redfox]

http://kygl.com/police-officer-gets-huge-surprise-after-rescuing-dog-trapped-in-fence-wire-video/?trackback=fbshare_top

Kinda heartwarming. Proves not all officers are animal hating assholes..

[der affe]

I train my dogs to attack Big Macs and chicken mcnuggets. Who's irresponsible now suckas?
Greg, when did you move to fla? I thought you were AZ to death?

I am moving to the land of humidity to be with my future wife......;)

[delatlanta1281]

I just raise my dogs around people and children. No one has lost a face yet ;)
Now slices of cake... That's another story.
Pits are utilized mainly because of their strong pack mentality. They will do anything to seek the approval of the dominant leader in their pack. This in the wrong hands is horrible. In the right hands however, you find one of the best service and therapy breeds out there. I live in a city that has had to adapt to an overpopulation of Pitt bulls because of things you mentioned above. Unlike most major cities, this one accepts pits and other "bite" breeds as the morons making the laws elsewhere mis-name them. I could show you pics of my pits, of my rot-Shepard, of my 125 pound American bull and say they are cute and how cuddly they are/ were. But I'm not going to. I'm going to put them in the bed, let them play with my family and friends and other dogs, and nothing will happen. Even though I have no clue where they were before I rescued them from the pound. Know why? I'm responsible, and 99 percent of rescues are good dogs that just need a second chance. That's why I get steamed when people say pits are dangerous. Most dog bite reports are classified as pit bulls. Very few actually are.

http://mabbr.org/pit-bull-ownership/the-truth-about-pit-bulls/

http://www.knoxcountyhumanesociety.org/PIT_BULL_MYTHS.php

The same can be said about most breeds on the "bite" list.
The other thing I'm going to do is steer clear of crime scenes. Mainly because I don't want to be involved. I sure as hell won't walk up to one and film it with my dog present. Especially if I am driving by. Regardless of my rights, it's not my place, nor does it help anyone.

[z31maniac]

Look at the cop still in posture, pointing the gun at the poor dog dying, as it might just get up, turn into godzilla and come after him....smh what a shame of a cop!

Did you watch the video? That pic is literally maybe 1.5 seconds after the first shot is fired.

The 4 shots happened......then what, half a second to holster the gun and assume a non-defensive position? You probably can't even shift your ratty G260 that quickly, much less assess the threat is eliminated, holster the gun, resume a normal stance?

It's fucking amazing the jumps in logic you internet detectives make.

[der affe]

i was using pits as an example of a dog that is in it's purest form a good dog. take people who then continue to breed pits that are agressive for their agressive traits (not all pits are bad!) and the fact that they are a more accessable dog to purchase through bad back yard breeders and the bad traits are continued through the blood line. now you get them in the hands of irrsponsible owners who do not properly train them and allow them to be agressive to be a bad ass with a bad ass dog and bad things happen. they attact people/children/pets because they are acting on their instincts, unfortunately bad traits that have been repeatedly bread into them.

now you as a responsible pit owner have to make up for the fact that these other assholes have tarnished the image of the breed and the blood line.

i look at owning my rotti in the same light. it is my RESPONSABLIY to portray MY rotti in the best light possible.

at 135 lbs, he is intimidating, i constantly have people react negatively to him. i then make him sit and stay with hand commands and in german and ask them if would like to pet him while their dogs turn inside out and he sits calmly. he is shutzhund 3 trained in obedience and i have gone to great lenghts to socialize him.

[z6ne]

click it

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/ars/home

[delatlanta1281]

I train my dogs to attack Big Macs and chicken mcnuggets. Who's irresponsible now suckas?
Greg, when did you move to fla? I thought you were AZ to death?

[Redfox]

It has nothing to do with pits. You can train a cocker spaniel to be just as aggressive. The same can be said about rotties I own bot (rescues). And foster as well. It's insane for people to blame breed. Owner is to blame in this instance, I agree. But split second decisions must be made in every circumstance, and a decision was made. I doubt the officers were stoked at the end of the day.

You are absolutely correct, any dog can be trained to be aggressive. I don't argue that. Unfortunately, we see more of the sudden aggression with the "dangerous dogs" list. It lies in the owners hands to train, be more aware of their dog, keep them leashed if they are questionable or sketchy of new people, or properly train them and socialize them. It's like having a child. If you can't fulfill the responsibilities of being a good parent; providing health care, nutritional needs, discipline, and affection and love, you should not be a parent. Dog parent, human parent, responsible for another human/living being in general.

[delatlanta1281]

I would agree with all of that Greg.

[der affe]

if he was just "walking the dog" why did he drive the dogn to an active crime scene? i walk my rotti 3 miles EVERY morning. i hook him up to a leash and walk out the door. i do not DRIVE him to a crime scene and parade him around in a tense situation. if he felt the need to flex his rights by filming the cops (yea it is his right to do so), he should have left the dog at home or in the car and paraded around with his camera.

animals can sense a tense situation and it will put them on edge, why bring a large dog known for protection into this situation????

a propperly trained rotti will always look to it's owner/alpha/pack leader for how to react to a situation. if it is not trained to do so, do not bring it into a situation where it will react instinctively and protect it's owner. again common sense and personal responability come into play.

it was very painful to watch the dog get shot, but the situation could have been avoided by not injecting the dog into this situation.
a rotti will die to protect it's pack, that is a fact and that fact causes lots of irrsponsible owners to purchase them to make them feel like bad asses.

having a dog like this is a GREAT responsability and not on to be taken lightly, macing or tazing the dog most likely would have slowed the dog down at best.

this asshole is a black eye to any responsible rotti owner. my heart goes out to the fact that the dog died, but ultimately, he put the dog in that situation that caused it's demise.