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  • MJCRO
    E30 Addict
    • Apr 2012
    • 597

    #31
    I wouldn't trust Raidmax PSU's, especially not cheap models with split 12V rails. I'd look into getting either a Corsair or Seasonic with single rail setup's and 40A+. Don't be cheap on something like your PSU, you want something that can adequately power your machine under heavy loads without any strain on it.

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    • DatUtahGuy
      No R3VLimiter
      • Jan 2007
      • 3146

      #32


      @jclar, are you saying I should "tear apart" the case of the video card and clean it?
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      • E30 Wagen
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jul 2005
        • 3425

        #33
        Originally posted by Schwarz3

        @jclar, are you saying I should "tear apart" the case of the video card and clean it?
        That's what I would do. I'd have some alcohol wipes, some thermal pads, and thermal paste handly. I've seen brand new high-end video cards that people have taken apart only to discover the GPU was not even half-covered with thermal paste. There's really no risk of damaging anything as long as you're careful, and of course you're not sacrificing the warranty or anything.
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        • jclar
          Wrencher
          • Apr 2010
          • 265

          #34
          Originally posted by Schwarz3
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          @jclar, are you saying I should "tear apart" the case of the video card and clean it?
          CPU temps look great, almost definitely a problem exclusive to the video card and unrelated to the case temperature. Assuming you're on the Intel cooler you would be experiencing temps quite a bit higher than that if it weren't the case.

          Yes, disassemble the cooling assembly. Remove dust.

          That's what I would do. I'd have some alcohol wipes, some thermal pads, and thermal paste handly. I've seen brand new high-end video cards that people have taken apart only to discover the GPU was not even half-covered with thermal paste. There's really no risk of damaging anything as long as you're careful, and of course you're not sacrificing the warranty or anything.
          Definitely. And although it will probably be covered adequately with thermal paste, almost any card out there is hindered by the fact that A) The thermal paste is of extremely low quality, as quality thermal paste is very expensive in comparison and B) The thermal paste is applied too thick with enough material for several applications. Thermal paste is a weak point in the cooling assembly and an extremely thin amount should be used.

          With temperatures like yours I think it is extremely likely that either your GPU fan is toast or just completely clogged up. Reapplying thermal paste may not be necessary, but is required if the GPU is separated from the HS/F assembly.

          Often times when a fan fails it will be very resistant to spinning. When flicked with your finger the fan should complete several revolutions if good. If the fan only slightly moves it is faulty. IIRC XFX has a double lifetime warranty on their cards now, I would think your 6870 would qualify for that. If the fan is bad simply RMA the card.
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          • DatUtahGuy
            No R3VLimiter
            • Jan 2007
            • 3146

            #35
            Calling all nerds (gaming) GET IN HERE!

            cool I will uninstall it and see how the fan is working
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            • decay
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2003
              • 5637

              #36
              Originally posted by MJCRO
              I wouldn't trust Raidmax PSU's, especially not cheap models with split 12V rails. I'd look into getting either a Corsair or Seasonic with single rail setup's and 40A+. Don't be cheap on something like your PSU, you want something that can adequately power your machine under heavy loads without any strain on it.
              replacing his PSU at both of your advice would have been a complete waste of money-

              these statements about raidmax are based on what?

              my (first-hand) experience with them is they do fine, and i'm asking a lot more of my hardware than you are.
              past:
              1989 325is (learner shitbox)
              1986 325e (turbo dorito)
              1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
              1985 323i baur
              current:
              1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)

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              • squidmaster
                R3VLimited
                • Aug 2011
                • 2666

                #37
                My first hand experience is that they're trash. You're first hand experience is using a way over powered PSU to do a very low power job and that's working alright. That's not much of an experience.

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                • Wschnitz
                  R3V OG
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 8089

                  #38
                  Raid max is super trash, get a corsair damnit.
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                  • eduTechnic
                    E30 Addict
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 400

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Wschnitz
                    Raid max is super trash, get a corsair damnit.
                    This. Corsair is sweetness

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                    • decay
                      R3V Elite
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 5637

                      #40
                      Originally posted by squidmaster
                      My first hand experience is that they're trash. You're first hand experience is using a way over powered PSU to do a very low power job and that's working alright. That's not much of an experience.
                      ...bitcoin mining is not a "low power job", it is 24h 100% gpu utilization, but i guess you may not have been aware of that. as far as the rest, a more appropriate way to say it would be that i over-engineered, because i wanted reliability and quietness.

                      but whatever, keep recommending this guy spend money on what's clearly not the failure point, if that's fun for you
                      past:
                      1989 325is (learner shitbox)
                      1986 325e (turbo dorito)
                      1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
                      1985 323i baur
                      current:
                      1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)

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                      • jclar
                        Wrencher
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 265

                        #41
                        Also have first hand experience with Raidmax PSUs. Junk. Yours may work fine now, and it may continue to for the next 10 years, but I would never give somebody any amount of money in exchange for one. There's too many reputable companies manufacturing quality units to consider something like that.

                        I'm not trying to infer that getting a non-Raidmax PSU is going to solve OP's problems, rather that he gets a PSU of quality before it causes problems. There's more to a power supply then making a PC turn on and perform under load.
                        '86 325es M50

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                        • Wschnitz
                          R3V OG
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 8089

                          #42
                          I suggest corsair for many components, I have a case, PSU, ram, and cooling from them, build quality is excellent and everything is packaged with care.
                          1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4
                          willschnitz

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                          • MJCRO
                            E30 Addict
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 597

                            #43
                            Raidmax isn't total trash, but I highly doubt the reliably of they're cheaper models like that 530W model. Better to be safe than sorry and invest in a PSU with reputable reliability, great warranties, and awesome customer service, like Corsair for example.

                            I used to have 2600K @ 5Ghz, Z68X-UD7, EVGA GTX 580 Classified, and PC Power & Cooling 950W powering it all until I sold it for a Sager laptop which I run now as a desktop setup with an external monitor.

                            But like I said, don't be cheap and get a good brand PSU eventually.

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                            • squidmaster
                              R3VLimited
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2666

                              #44
                              Originally posted by decay
                              ...bitcoin mining is not a "low power job", it is 24h 100% gpu utilization, but i guess you may not have been aware of that. as far as the rest, a more appropriate way to say it would be that i over-engineered, because i wanted reliability and quietness.

                              but whatever, keep recommending this guy spend money on what's clearly not the failure point, if that's fun for you
                              try reading the my posts again then ;)

                              Like I already said, your setup doesn't come close to the drawing 850w.
                              what mining program are you using? windows or linux? how many Mhps?
                              Last edited by squidmaster; 09-01-2013, 03:47 PM.

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                              • decay
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 5637

                                #45
                                Originally posted by squidmaster
                                try reading the my posts again then ;)

                                Like I already said, your setup doesn't come close to the drawing 850w.
                                what mining program are you using? windows or linux? how many Mhps?
                                and like *i* said, i built it that way because i wanted a quiet rig, so maybe take your own advice. ;)

                                the two cards draw 250w, which is the relevant point here. yes, i'm aware the PSU has far more capacity than that- and that's why it doesn't sound like a jet turbine in the middle of my living room.

                                (somewhat amazed that i'm having to explain the concept of "overengineering" to someone on a classic BMW forum)
                                past:
                                1989 325is (learner shitbox)
                                1986 325e (turbo dorito)
                                1991 318ic (5-lug ITB)
                                1985 323i baur
                                current:
                                1995 M3 (suspension, 17x9/255-40, borla)

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