SD bans all abortions

[Tvan]

the founding fathers created our gov't with religion out of the picture.

Yea, sure. Just like they said "all men are created equal."




O wait, except for blacks, native americans, and women...

[h0lmes]

Just because our founders were Christian does not mean that we were "founded on God". Our founders realized that forcing other people into Christianity would make them just as bad as their counterparts in Britain. However, no one can deny a sense of strong Christian morals in our country. If you don't agree with abortion then don't get one. Anti-abortion laws are just a "legal" form of religious persecution. It really angers me to see that womens rights are being taken as well as the rights of homosexuals, our country is going backwards.

[Charlie]

That is your opinion.
Don't make it sound like it is the one and only truth.

The US was founded as a christian nation, that's not an opinion, that's truth.

-Charlie

[Dave]

The US was founded as a christian nation, that's not an opinion, that's truth.

-Charlie

Bill O'Reilly said it, so it must be true . . . .;)

[h0lmes]

The US was founded as a christian nation, that's not an opinion, that's truth.

-Charlie

The seperation of church and state says that the government cannot endorse any religion of any kind. Any decision by the government has to be made without any religious bias whatsoever.

[dude8383]

well, if you think that abortion is ethical, I challenge you to examine the actual point of when science shows that life begins. The religious side of the arguement is simple enough, abortion along with all other murder is considered to be a bad thing. My main problem with abortion besides the loss of life is the fact that it is simply becoming another method of birth control. Our generation as a whole refuses to take any responsibility for their actions. Oh, and i'm not a republican, so don't use that bias. I am against all forms of abortion, I see it as killing no matter what the scenario. However, whether or not morals should be enforced by the government, I don't see that as their responsibility.

its definitly true that abortion is becoming a another method of birth control and quite a good one at that.

accidents happen man, not everyone is irresponsible...say for example you take every precaution in bed being the responsible person, but out of no where that condom rips and end up getting your partner pregnant. Now you didn't want that condom to rip, niether did you want a baby, otherwise you wouldn't have had a condom on to begin with. there should be some sort of restriction to it, not outright banning.

Yea, sure. Just like they said "all men are created equal."

O wait, except for blacks, native americans, and women...

haha good point...we've come a long way though. you can almost say that "all men are created equal" in today's world.

Just because our founders were Christian does not mean that we were "founded on God". Our founders realized that forcing other people into Christianity would make them just as bad as their counterparts in Britain. However, no one can deny a sense of strong Christian morals in our country. If you don't agree with abortion then don't get one. Anti-abortion laws are just a "legal" form of religious persecution. It really angers me to see that womens rights are being taken as well as the rights of homosexuals, our country is going backwards.

damn i was trying to remember exactly that..

i also agree that women's rights are being chipped at because, its their fucking body...they have the right to choose what they want to do with it.

[Tvan]

The seperation of church and state says that the government cannot endorse any religion of any kind. Any decision by the government has to be made without any religious bias whatsoever.

Abortion, an issue that has been approached without religious bias...?

Give me a break, it's just naive to think that our country's politicians are not swayed by their religious beliefs when deciding on any controversial issue.

[dude8383]

yeh unfortunately what is written in the constitution doesn't compare to what is actually done.

[asubimmer]

the thing is IT IS MURDER. You are KILLING something that is living. It has nothing to do w/ separation of Chuch and State. Yes accidents happen BUT its not the babies fault. IT IS NOT THE WOMANS RIGHT IF A BABY LIVES OR DIES!!! I believe that ALL abortion is wrong no matter the circumstances. An aborted baby could be the person that was going to be the person to cure cancer OR the next mass murder. There is no way to know BUT it is not anyones place to murder. I think its terrible that our Country has allowed abortion for soo long. when this is all said and done people are going to be talking about abortion being kept forever like we did slavery.

it all boils down to ABORTION IS MURDER

[AppState325]

i also agree that women's rights are being chipped at because, its their fucking body...they have the right to choose what they want to do with it.

their body isn't the one being destroyed......

My question is, why stop "abortion" while they are in the womb? Why don't you wait till after they are born and "abort" them then, should this be allowed? If you want to debate this with me, be prepared to provide a clear statement of when life is allowed to be "aborted" and when it should not be. As far as i'm concerned, if abortion in the womb isn't immoral, neither would be walking into a hospital and shooting up the nursery.

[h0lmes]

Abortion, an issue that has been approached without religious bias...?

Give me a break, it's just naive to think that our country's politicians are not swayed by their religious beliefs when deciding on any controversial issue.

I think you misunderstood me. My whole point is that decisions are supposed to be made without religious bias, however, it is very apparent that many decisions today are being made with that bias.

[h0lmes]

their body isn't the one being destroyed......

My question is, why stop "abortion" while they are in the womb? Why don't you wait till after they are born and "abort" them then, should this be allowed? If you want to debate this with me, be prepared to provide a clear statement of when life is allowed to be "aborted" and when it should not be. As far as i'm concerned, if abortion in the womb isn't immoral, neither would be walking into a hospital and shooting up the nursery.

You cannot compare a human embryo to a living, breathing, human being. I find it so hipocritical that the majority of people who are against abortions also support this war that has killed countless innocent people.

[AppState325]

You cannot compare a human embryo to a living, breathing, human being. I find it so hYpocritical that the majority of people who are against abortions also support this war that has killed countless innocent people.

ok......and why not? And who says that I support the war? Explain then when you can call a human being human.


btw, fixed your spelling

[asubimmer]

You cannot compare a human embryo to a living, breathing, human being.

ok really you are stupid as crap. "embryo's" have a heart beat and brain waves...soo magically when they pop outta their mom they are officially humans? I hate it when ignorant people try to explain their cause. hOlmes you are like that dumb fag that drove his car through campus b/c their people are a peacefull people and are missunderstood. :loco:

[Dave]

ok......and why not? And who says that I support the war? Explain then when you can call a human being human.


btw, fixed your spelling

He said MOST, not you. And read Roe v. Wade and its progeny.