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  • Vtec?lol
    No R3VLimiter
    • Dec 2009
    • 3278

    #1

    Bought a Lemon, Any Suggestions?

    So lets see If I can keep this short. It's actually quite long so skip to the video and read the cliffs at the bottom.

    I'm hoping someone here can chime in with some experience or insight.

    After getting rid of my beloved m60 vert (wish I didn't) I had to get a car that had seating for 5 and 4 doors. I went out and found a 2001 540i Mtech sport.
    I bought it off ebay after hearing a bunch of folks swear by them and their awesome deals.

    I won the auction for $6,011 + 245 dealer bullshit cock sucking fee. (sorry)
    I immediately paid the $500 deposit and contacted the seller as he stated that he could get a decent shipping quote immediately. He told me to give him my information and I did, fast forward 2 days later and nothing from him. I call him again and told him I got my own quotes and they were too expensive. Plus i'd rather see the car and inspect it in person. He agrees and tells me I have 7 days before the auction is relisted.

    I buy me and the mrs. a plane ticket from Dallas Tx to Philly PA. He ask me for a copy of my itinerary to see if I'm bullshitting and I send it to him and tell him I will be at his dealership at 10:30am sharp that saturday morning. He says ok and he will have everything ready to go, clean car, and basic maintenance.

    Issue #1, before I fly out and when I land in Philly I text him and tell him I'll be there in 30min. We used iChat so It shows he read it the minute I send it. I get to the address he gave me and it's not a dealership at all. He works out of some hole in the wall and the car is nowhere to be found. I call him and he's with another customer selling a truck and he walks up to me. "Oh shit, you're here today? you're really here" I reply, yes I'm here. I text and called you and you said you'd have the car and paperwork ready. "Oh I'm sorry, walk around, go eat and give me 10min."

    Fast forward 2hrs later and my car is still not ready. He disappears and I call him again. "Oh yes, I am at carwash my friend. I'll be there 10 min no worries." My friendly reply is you've said that 2hrs ago.

    He finally gets the car in and it's a filthy mess. It looks like a wolf has been hibernating in it with all the different colors of hair everywhere. I ask him why the fuck it's so dirty and how could he had been at the carwash. "it's a used car, I'm sorry it's not perfect." Right then I felt I didn't want to do business with him but I didn't fly in for nothing so I looked passed his arrogance.

    We test drive it and it pulls like a train. Smooth, quiet, no issues to the untrained eye. I popped the hood and see the oil is old and needs to be changed. He says it's only a few months old but he also agreed that he would change it before I got there. "oh i'm sorry, I'll give discount"

    The other issues seem minuscule and part of buying a used car so all in all I feel it's a good car for the money and only needs a good cleaning/detail so it's a go. I drive the car to DC and spend the night with a friend. Car drove great but I noticed the brakes and front end needs new bushings. Typical e39 stuff. Next morning I change the oil and guess what? Full of fucking sludge and motor honey/lucas.

    Pissed off I call him and he says that he didn't know and nothings wrong, just give it a tune up and flush the oil again. I put fresh oil in and noticed a slight tick when cold. Most m60's with bad vanos seals do this so I put it on my list of shit to do. I start on my 1500 mile trip and its going great until we get about 3/4 of the way home. Check engine light and a louder ticking starts to occur. Then a flashing check engine light.

    I get the car home safely and pull up the codes:
    Bad Crank Sensor
    Bad bank 1 Cam sensor
    Misfires 1, 2, 3, 4
    knock sensors 2,3 triggered 3x
    faulty fuel lever sender
    faulty body electrical relay
    faulty ABS ecu
    faulty airbag ecu
    faulty auxiliary pump
    faulty fuel purge relay

    So, car hardly idles anymore and I take a video of it and send it to him .



    His response is "what did you do. you must have done something."
    I send him all the codes and ask him how could I possibly have done something within 24hrs to cause this. I also send him a copy of al the codes and it shows the last time he reset the codes which was right before he brought the car to us. he replies "all it was was a misfire, so what it needs a tuneup"

    So I go to ebay and leave him a bad review and he calls and ask what can he do to make it right. I tell him ho much everything is going to cost and he doesn't reply. instead he goes to ebay and reports the car as not paid for. This instantly removes the negative review I gave him so he's off free. He now doesn't respond to calls and text and ebay says there's nothing they can do.

    Now I'm fucked and need to invest more than likely a few grand to repair. I cant get the car registered in my name in it's current condition.

    is there anything I can do?

    CLIFFS
    Bought a car from ebay
    flew from tx to pa to get it
    shady dealer is shady
    car seems great
    drive it home and it breaks down
    dealer removed my negative feedback from ebay by reporting the car as not paid for
    ebay wont do shit
    dealer wont respond










    Last edited by Vtec?lol; 03-07-2014, 07:03 PM.
  • freeride53
    R3V OG
    • Jul 2007
    • 11972

    #2
    Hmm. I know that in my state there are laws for this type of stuff.

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    • MrSlacker
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      • Feb 2010
      • 2494

      #3
      Sorry dude, but how the hell did you buy an E39 from some idiot on eBay and think its safe to drive 1500 miles? It sucks, but you had this coming. Most states have out of state as-is law which means if dealer sells it to out of state buyer, its automatically as-is
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      • Vtec?lol
        No R3VLimiter
        • Dec 2009
        • 3278

        #4
        Originally posted by MrSlacker
        Sorry dude, but how the hell did you buy an E39 from some idiot on eBay and think its safe to drive 1500 miles? It sucks, but you had this coming. Most states have out of state as-is law which means if dealer sells it to out of state buyer, its automatically as-is
        Don't say that...

        Please!
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        • E30_Pare
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2008
          • 7801

          #5
          Jesus. Sounds like your straight out of luck with a car you don't want. Sounds like a rocker/s or spring/s is broken in there nasty.

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          • MrSlacker
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            • Feb 2010
            • 2494

            #6
            Take him to court then...
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            • Chessmaster
              E30 Addict
              • Jun 2012
              • 501

              #7
              Specs of said car. I always see e39s sell for dirt cheap (after negotiations) and in really good shape, actually hoping to buy one in a few weeks. seems like you go your self in a hard place.

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              • AndrewBird
                The Mad Scientist
                • Oct 2003
                • 11892

                #8
                Originally posted by MrSlacker
                Sorry dude, but how the hell did you buy an E39 from some idiot on eBay and think its safe to drive 1500 miles? It sucks, but you had this coming. Most states have out of state as-is law which means if dealer sells it to out of state buyer, its automatically as-is
                I have to agree with this. A lemon is a new car with problems. All you bought was a junker. Used cars sales are considered as-is unless otherwise stated in a contract of some kind. You never should have bought it after the guy started acting shady.

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                • Pantless Spency
                  It's McRib time!!!
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 7284

                  #9
                  ffffuuuuuuu


                  that is horrible.

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                  • Lake
                    Advanced Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 177

                    #10
                    you're a texan... cowboy up and shoot him. jk jk


                    Dang sounds like my kind of luck. hope it turns out well.
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                    if you scream while doing it you'll gain extra power. worth a try.

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                    • Dozyproductions
                      R3V Elite
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4682

                      #11
                      Judge Judy

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                      • MikeDE
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1873

                        #12
                        Sucks.....i've done the same, but I only lost $2k on the turd I bought.
                        -03/2005 E46 330D Touring 6spd(204hp/410nM) Sapphire Black/Naturbraun Sport...300k KM & 35mpg(mixed)

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                        • Nick_S
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 3656

                          #13
                          Poop in his sock drawer...



                          But seriously, if you can prove he reset all the codes just prior to you buying it and misrepresented it then when sold I think you may have a chance. I'm not familiar with how eBay works in cases like that.
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                          • Charlie
                            kid tested, administrator approved
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 6686

                            #14
                            You didn't buy a lemon. A lemon is a new car bought from a dealer with multiple faults, that there's usually state laws regarding them taking back or paying to make you whole.

                            You bought a high mile, 13-14 year old E39 with a motor known for serious maintenance costs and issues sight unseen.

                            You might be able to contact the BBB/DMV in Philly, but I'm not sure what they'd do for you. A car that old is likely sold "as is", which at that point means "get fucked". Ebay may act on your behalf for something, but unlikely.

                            Caveat Emptor.

                            -Charlie
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                            • Ryan Stewart
                              I Love Miatas
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 8978

                              #15
                              You're fucked. You have no recourse other than possibly getting the bad eBay feedback back up if you prove its paid for (did you pay cash? If so then still fucked on that). You have no buyer protection regarding a used car unless it was misrepresented but if you cant prove what you paid for it then you might not even be able to prove a verbal agreement didn't usurp it.

                              You did everything wrong you could man. Guy was shady, car was obviously poorly maintained, things were misrepresented. Tons of red flags on a high-maintenance car to begin with.
                              Im now E30less.
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