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  • Vtec?lol
    No R3VLimiter
    • Dec 2009
    • 3278

    #31
    Thanks for the insight everyone. I'm slowly calming down and accepting the fact that I have some work to do.

    I dropped the oil pan and found shards of aluminum and timing components so I have a $1500 and 10hr repair ahead of me.

    It sucks so much because I was trying to find something with 4drs and a manual to haul the family in. I really shouldn't have sold my vert. I could have done better.

    Fuck.
    Shit
    Fuck.

    Fucking shit.
    (Sorry, frustrated op is frustrated)

    Thanks again for the insight everyone.
    I love you all. Peace.

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    • mbonder
      R3VLimited
      • Feb 2004
      • 2255

      #32
      After realizing that you made a mistake, you need to look at this in a positive light.

      Here's how I would look at it:

      Although it needs some repairs, you can actually end up with a car that you are more than happy with because in the end, after the repairs you will have a car that you can rely on because you personally replaced vital parts that wear and fail on the m62 engine.

      If you only paid $6k for the car, you actually got the car cheap, so if you put another $2k into it, you're still below market value for a nice msport. $8k in for a car that you know will run a while isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned. Yes, you need to do the maintenance, but in the end you'll be better off because of it.

      Positive man, positive. That guy will get his, guaranteed. Just worry about righting your errors rather than trying to get back at him.

      Plus you took a goofy trip with your wife, you'll both laugh about it some day, rest assured, you may both be 90, but what the hell, I once drove from NJ to Georgia to purchase an interior, only to get there and find that the door panels were less than stellar, my fiancé still laughs at me for shit like that.

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      • NardusDC
        Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 76

        #33
        You may want to consider reporting him to the PA attorney general's office for fraud. At a minimum, telling eBay that you did not pay for the car when you clearly did (you have the title and presumably a cancelled check to prove it) is intentional misrepresentation. While it may not fix your dilemma, it could prevent a recurrence.

        And, as someone else has stated, you may want to sue him. . .

        Sorry about this. Sounds like a shit experience....

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        • dannyyisntt
          No R3VLimiter
          • Sep 2008
          • 3141

          #34
          Torch it.

          Shitty situation, good luck man.
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          • ArtClassShank
            Advanced Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 143

            #35
            Take V8 out, put in E30.

            In all seriousness, that sucks, but you just gotta make the best of it.
            1989 Carbon Black 328is

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            • Jb325is
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2003
              • 2136

              #36
              Sucks man, classic case of excitement for new car eclipses all thoughts of common sense. You're going about it the right way though, suck it up and fix it. Doesn't sound like it was a bad deal even with the price of repair. m60 timing stuff is no fun, good luck!
              - '88 m54 coupe

              <3

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              • volvolover
                Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 89

                #37
                I dont' mean to make things worse, but I really dont' understand why so many younger guys think they can buy a BMW and not expect repairs. There's a reason why the general consensus is that you should have an additional 1-2g/s saved when purchasing one of these cars, for additional repairs/maint it'll need.

                OP, if you want something that's reliable with stick and 4 doors for the family, have you considered an Accord sedan? You can get one that'll get you better fuel economy than a 5 series, and easier to maintain

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                • Vtec?lol
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3278

                  #38
                  Well, I wanted another e39. I've owned a few in the past and in my experience they are the best drivers sedans ever built. Yes I know of all the maintenance issues. This is more of a case of me being pissed that the car was misrepresented and shady shit was done to hide multiple issues. This has nothing to do about "a young guy being excited to buy a new car"

                  I'm not that young A. and B. I've bought and sold more cars than I can count. I used to be a private dealer.

                  In this case I was simply being foolish to rely on someones word. I've done it many of times in the past and it's never burned me this bad. Then again, I've never bought a car so far up north. I know here in Texas we all know not to do stupid shit unless you want serious trouble.

                  The money isn't an issue either. I've spent plenty on replacement parts anticipating the cars arrival. Suspension, interior, and drivetrain parts. It's all in my garage.

                  And yes, M60 timing shit is terrible.. Multiply that by 80 for the M62TU. It's going to suck that's for sure.

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                  • Cletonius
                    R3VLimited
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 2809

                    #39
                    Originally posted by mbonder
                    After realizing that you made a mistake, you need to look at this in a positive light.

                    Here's how I would look at it:

                    Although it needs some repairs, you can actually end up with a car that you are more than happy with because in the end, after the repairs you will have a car that you can rely on because you personally replaced vital parts that wear and fail on the m62 engine.

                    If you only paid $6k for the car, you actually got the car cheap, so if you put another $2k into it, you're still below market value for a nice msport. $8k in for a car that you know will run a while isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned. Yes, you need to do the maintenance, but in the end you'll be better off because of it.

                    Positive man, positive. That guy will get his, guaranteed. Just worry about righting your errors rather than trying to get back at him.

                    Plus you took a goofy trip with your wife, you'll both laugh about it some day, rest assured, you may both be 90, but what the hell, I once drove from NJ to Georgia to purchase an interior, only to get there and find that the door panels were less than stellar, my fiancé still laughs at me for shit like that.
                    This, totally. My wife and I have this same relationship and it's a lot of fun. Any road trip in a fun car is worth taking even if you don't reach the intended destination.

                    When I bought my e30 I ended up bringing it back to the seller am hour later with some problems. He made made everything right and we're friends to this day.

                    Just fix the car and enjoy it. Next time listen to your instinct and mark this one as a learning experience.
                    - Josh
                    1990 325is

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                    Looking to buy shift boot frames, PM if you have one to sell

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                    • Vtec?lol
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 3278

                      #40
                      Originally posted by mbonder
                      After realizing that you made a mistake, you need to look at this in a positive light.

                      Here's how I would look at it:

                      Although it needs some repairs, you can actually end up with a car that you are more than happy with because in the end, after the repairs you will have a car that you can rely on because you personally replaced vital parts that wear and fail on the m62 engine.

                      If you only paid $6k for the car, you actually got the car cheap, so if you put another $2k into it, you're still below market value for a nice msport. $8k in for a car that you know will run a while isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned. Yes, you need to do the maintenance, but in the end you'll be better off because of it.

                      Positive man, positive. That guy will get his, guaranteed. Just worry about righting your errors rather than trying to get back at him.

                      Plus you took a goofy trip with your wife, you'll both laugh about it some day, rest assured, you may both be 90, but what the hell, I once drove from NJ to Georgia to purchase an interior, only to get there and find that the door panels were less than stellar, my fiancé still laughs at me for shit like that.
                      Originally posted by Cletonius
                      This, totally. My wife and I have this same relationship and it's a lot of fun. Any road trip in a fun car is worth taking even if you don't reach the intended destination.

                      When I bought my e30 I ended up bringing it back to the seller am hour later with some problems. He made made everything right and we're friends to this day.

                      Just fix the car and enjoy it. Next time listen to your instinct and mark this one as a learning experience.
                      definitely guys.

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                      • payney8
                        E30 Modder
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 899

                        #41
                        Build thread?

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                        • henryki
                          E30 Modder
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 960

                          #42
                          I heard a story about a kidnapping...? if you plan one... I'm in, and the movie they'll make about our kidnapping will be called Taken: Advantage of. (A movie based off the Liam Nelson hit film Taken.)

                          All joking aside, my neighbor bought a 528i, auto, 180,000 miles, electrical issues, and his dumb ass still paid 8500 for it. so all in all I think you're doing fine, especially for having a V8 and manual trans, when its all sorted, it should be a great car to drive!

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                          • _JohnnyD_
                            Wrencher
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 215

                            #43
                            Originally posted by mbonder
                            Although it needs some repairs, you can actually end up with a car that you are more than happy with because in the end, after the repairs you will have a car that you can rely on because you personally replaced vital parts that wear and fail on the m62 engine.

                            If you only paid $6k for the car, you actually got the car cheap, so if you put another $2k into it, you're still below market value for a nice msport. $8k in for a car that you know will run a while isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned. Yes, you need to do the maintenance, but in the end you'll be better off because of it.
                            Have you had a chance to look over the rest of the car to make sure it is even worth throwing more money at. Is the body straight, suspension and steering tight, electrical working and not hacked up.
                            It sounds like you understand the engine troubles because that is the obvious problem right now.
                            The last thing you need to put 2k into the engine and find out the car needs more money into the suspension, trans, body, electrical, etc.
                            If you're not sure, have a professional look at the car and give a full assessment of what it needs in the next 1 year of ownership. (don't use the same person that will fix the engine, they might tell you everything is perfect to ensure you actual do the engine work with them)
                            In my experience if a car has signs of poor maintanence on one system chances are the rest of the systems were not cared for either.

                            Don't throw good money after bad!!!

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                            • mulletman
                              E30 Modder
                              • May 2012
                              • 801

                              #44
                              Ebay buyer protection?

                              Also... if he claims it's not paid for... did he cash your check? Do you have any way of cancelling payment?


                              Last resort... run it into something, then report stolen. Collect insurance money, and start over. And yes, I'm kidding.

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                              • DEV0 E30
                                R3V OG
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 8804

                                #45
                                Originally posted by dannyyisntt
                                1. Check insurance coverage 2. Apply more coverage. 3.Torch it.

                                Shitty situation, good luck man.
                                Came here to post this.

                                Originally posted by mulletman
                                Ebay buyer protection?

                                Also... if he claims it's not paid for... did he cash your check? Do you have any way of cancelling payment?


                                Last resort... run it into something, then report stolen. Collect insurance money, and start over. And yes, I'm kidding.
                                Ebay buyer protection may not be covered here?

                                Kidding he is not.

                                Originally posted by Jb325is
                                Sucks man, classic case of excitement for new car eclipses all thoughts of common sense. You're going about it the right way though, suck it up and fix it. Doesn't sound like it was a bad deal even with the price of repair. m60 timing stuff is no fun, good luck!
                                In the end, really making the best of a crappy situation is the best plan of attack. Think of this as a learning experience, never get a car without an independent inspection done by someone who will check every inch of a car.

                                We <3 you too bro, good luck. Your avatar makes me think an Accord may have been a better choice? That's water under the bridge now.
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