VW - Your inner fast

[uofom3]

americans take the "freedom", not privelege, to drive for granted and do not like to take in it any responsibility or desire to drive safely. commericals such as this only play to this thread of our existence, and encourages it. if people only realized how deadly driving was, and how much risk they were flinging themselves into, maybe driving would have more respect given to it, instead of the assumption it now is at.

i'm glad you take your privelege, and quite capable/endangering car with respect. an sport evo deserves nothing less than a driver who is appreciative of the danger but also joy driving can bring. especially when i'm so shitcanned.

so is drinking at 21 a freedom or a priveledge? Its no different than driving. What about tacacco? again.. according to U.S. law (this has no personal bias in it), at the appropriate ages this becomes the "freedom". If you expect the economy sustain any level of output that keeps your (and my) standard of living where it is, you will drop the driving is a privelidge bullshit. If you take that stance, considder your wage cut, your prices increased, and generally your financial position worse off. It is not going to happen.

I agree with how about how deadly driving CAN be, when people do not understand consequences. I still advocate that it is the American legal systems problem for not suggesting a better course of action for teens/young adults who want to drive fast to have a safe environment to do it.

I too and shitfaced, and i'm trying to hard to make sense of thsi post.. so with thati'll add something worth while tomorrowl

from what i read we agree in general, but whatis a forum without a point of contention???

cheers,
ted

[rwh11385]

No, driving is not a legal "right", it is a privelege. Drinking and smoking are activities that you do not need a license to do, you only need to be a certain age to legally do so. There is no requirement for a permit to smoke, nor one to drink. (although now that it is known that second hand smoking harms, you don't have the right to harm others... yet relating back to driving, a lot of people endanger others by reckless driving which is also illegal)

People take driving for granted so much when they lose the privelege (i.e. lose their license for failing to accept the rules and regulations that come with such a thing, like obeying speed laws or stop signs, etc.) and KEEP ON DRIVING REGARDLESS. They have it set in their mind that Americans have the "right" to drive, when it is not.


There are some locals.... [well, I should preface this by saying its on the local car board which is more the local street racing forum, but anyway...] there is someone who is a SHITTY driver and has had his license suspended multiple times for things like speeding, burnouts, etc. and was upset the state would do such a thing. He was angry he lost the "right" to drive and didn't understand the things he had done made him personally responsible for losing such an ability to drive, and that's just what americans do - forgo the acceptance of personal responsibility and want to blame someone else. why else do we have so many fucking lawsuits

basically, american's mindset is like a little child's when he believes he deserves to have that toy and is upset when it is taken away. never is it thought that he is lucky to have the toy, or that his bad behavior can make it go away. nonetheless, the child and toy completely overlook the danger driving elicits and everyone seems to ignore, but the attitude is the same.

funny how people are always frightened to fly, whereas they are fearless to drive. or even afraid of sharks. it is much more likely to end up dead behind the wheel or in the passenger seat than eaten by a shark, or in a plane. No matter how good of a driver someone is, they can only reduce the chance they cause the accident.... or more appriopriately, there is a given amount of danger on the road, and people are responsible for increasing their risk - driving fast, ignoring situations, etc. You can only avoid other's fault so much by being pro-active and a defensive driver. That drunk driver running the red light or going the wrong way is very hard to avoid


So Society is messed up and spoiled in their mindset that driving is a given right, not earned and ought-to-be-respected privelege.

Oh, please... what do you expect car companies to do? Make nothing but commercials featuring middle-aged women driving their kids to school and going to the grocery store, in BMW M5's and VW GTi's?

The marketing campaign is probably successful, but it plays to an aspect of society I do not like, and encourages reckless and aggressive behavior rooted in the "devil" in all of us who is tempted to drive fast rather than be responsible. Sure, responsible driving may not sell cars but if no one says it why would anyone drive so in the states? maybe that's why no one does! Only the liberal view which encourages risk is played, and the conservative mind to be responsible is frowned upon, just as it is on this board.

[hamann318is]

Heeter, welcome to Amercia where people only are concerned about making the next dollar.

[Ray Smoodiver]

link to vids?

[bmwm3n528]

link to vids?

https://www.google.com

[Ray Smoodiver]

average

[christophbmw]

Its funny how one can get pulled over for having a euro plate, but everyday people are completly oblivious to what is going on around them on the road because they are on the phone. I see cops everyday talking on the phone. i see people running red lights, and stopsigns, and leaving their highbeams on in the day.....idiots.....but on the other hand a put my car sidways on a daily basis (in a safe manner, and in complete control) and the law looks down upon me. why is this? I have never been in an accident, nor have i gotten in trouble for reckless driving. i hardly ever speed, i stop at stopsigns, i use my turnsignal, and i am a curtious driver.

But i know one day im going to get creamed by someone on there phone.

I think talking on the phone while driving should be banned here in the states, because we all know that it is far more dangerous than burning out.

[Purdue89E30]

Talking on the phone while driving is illegal in Chicago unless you have an earpiece

[Jand3rson]

Heeter, I have to say I very much agree with what you've said in your last post.

[RCWells]

Wow! It's just a marketing campaign, and a very cool one if I say so myself.

My inner fast tells me wheeter is a waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles and that it's faster than his inner fast.

[rwh11385]

Robert Wells IS his inner child. Dude, find your adult self already and stop being a pathetic immature tool. You're like a bulldog with your dick hanging out and no brain.

[AppState325]

Heeter, I have to say I very much agree with what you've said in your last post.

while I also hate to say it, I agree too

[RCWells]

Robert Wells IS his inner child. Dude, find your adult self already and stop being a pathetic immature tool.

Coming from YOU? That's a laugh. Your hypocrisy knows NO bounds! Except you don't have the backbone to be a bulldog.\

My inner fast just told me that you started crying when you read my last post. I laughed.

[rwh11385]

while I also hate to say it, I agree too

thanks

it's really the focus on listening to your inner temptation to speed and go fast that irritates me in this marketing campaign. when it's most bmws, they play to the driving experience or rolling around some woody back roads, which can be done with control and responsibility.

this "Fast" is encouraging the Id level of thinking, and desires to make people disregard higher and more responsible understanding of consequences.


yeah, cwells, you got me. your posts are really pwning me.... :wgaf: grow up

[Jand3rson]

thanks

it's really the focus on listening to your inner temptation to speed and go fast that irritates me in this marketing campaign. when it's most bmws, they play to the driving experience or rolling around some woody back roads, which can be done with control and responsibility.

this "Fast" is encouraging the Id level of thinking, and desires to make people disregard higher and more responsible understanding of consequences.

You're very much right here. And also about the BMW ads, even the ads for the M cars never show reckless driving. Even when they're driving fast.

The "fast" commercials are funny, tho. Especially the one with the guy and his girlfriend, with the windows down.