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The main problem is not the US, but Mexico. Mexico sucks. That is the plain reason why immigrants come here. They are 40% in poverty with a large margin separating the very rich from the extremely poor. The distribution of wealth is horrible. The country has potential to be very strong with plenty of natural resources, but it is not being handled well by the people in power.
Instead of us spending billions on a war over seas, why don't we help our neighbor out which happens to be the 5th largest oil exporter(right below Iran). They also obviously have a willing labor force if they had some help to get some jobs started up. We could go in and help out the country to make them just as stable as Canada. Why spend billions on a fence(bandaid) when we could spend it helping solve the real problem of Mexico's economy and government?
Easy solution: America claims Mexico, now you are all legal Americans!
Lets take a look at U.S. foreign policy that takes ALL the goods from CEntral and South America and all other nations who "work for us" making our clothes and growing our fruit. We look the other way then dont we? As long as they stay in THEIR countries and get paid dollars a day.
The only problem that I have with all of the illegal immigrants is that once they come here, they do not change their patriotism for their home country. It is fair to say that once you are here, there is a certain respect and patriotism that should be shown for this country.
Respect yes. It doesnt mean you forget your culture or where you came from. A LOT of people that come from other nations assimilate without completely re-defining themselves as "american". After all, what is "american"? Again, what youre seeing is the media picture of these people. And ionce again, I assume youre talking about Latinos since thats all the media portrays are illegal immigrants.
Lets take a look at U.S. foreign policy that takes ALL the goods from CEntral and South America and all other nations who "work for us" making our clothes and growing our fruit. We look the other way then dont we? As long as they stay in THEIR countries and get paid dollars a day.
Mariano
it's been basic US foreign policy as applied through economic avenues for the past 200 years. latin america, middle east, indonesia, etc. all the same shit. instead of straight up declaring war, we go in as economic advisors and development agencies, shore up huge contracts to multi national conglomerates, loan the country money to pay the project. and when they default on the loan, we own their ass forever.
check out "confessions of an economic hitman." quick read on the subject. take it with a grain of salt.
They dont patriate to the US because they often have no intent to become citizens.
Absolutely false. They would JUMP at the chance to be citizens, and they are. My dad became one last year, and my mother 10 years ago. My uncle a few years ago, and before she died, my grandmother 5-6 years ago. Every time the swearing in ceremony was more heavily packedf with people FROM ALL OVER!! Even in L.A. where most immigration is from Latin America.
it's been basic US foreign policy as applied through economic avenues for the past 200 years. latin america, middle east, indonesia, etc. all the same shit. instead of straight up declaring war, we go in as economic advisors and development agencies, shore up huge contracts to multi national conglomerates, loan the country money to pay the project. and when they default on the loan, we own their ass forever.
check out "confessions of an economic hitman." quick read on the subject. take it with a grain of salt.
Absolutely. Im not saying the U.S. should be looking out for everyone else in what should be essentially policy to benefit the country. But dont completely ass-rape them and leave them with nothing. Its just elementary that those types of policies will make the rest of the world a tougher place to live, therefore having all of them migrate where it IS decent.
that's crap. having interned at USCIS (i can also use the excuse that my dad knows more than you do, since he worked for then-INS/now-USCIS for almost 15 years, and quit to start a consultant firm to help people immigrate). it's bs. 90% of immigrants are hard working and dont want a hand out, they just get ass fucked when you have to provide so many years of taxes, proofs, have a sponsor letter, blah blah etc. i dont support illegal immigration, but the quotas/laws are a joke, and need to be amended to reflect current constraints.
Keep the mexican women coming along with the P.Ricans, they have nice asses:grin:
Quite possibly the most ignorant statement in this thread.
But damn if its not true. And your run of the mill civilian Mexican woman doesnt have that great of shape comepared to the rest of Latin America. Ricans, Cubans, Caribbeans, and Brazilian, Uruguayans, Argentineans, Peruvians, Venezuelans, on the other hand......god save me.
that's crap. having interned at USCIS (i can also use the excuse that my dad knows more than you do, since he worked for then-INS/now-USCIS for almost 15 years, and quit to start a consultant firm to help people immigrate). it's bs. 90% of immigrants are hard working and dont want a hand out, they just get ass fucked when you have to provide so many years of taxes, proofs, have a sponsor letter, blah blah etc. i dont support illegal immigration, but the quotas/laws are a joke, and need to be amended to reflect current constraints.
I dont see where we disagree, but. Agree to disagree. Everyones experiences are different. I dont call your statements crap. Lets leave it at that. We all have knowledge from different sources. Ive based my statements on my knowledge you on yours. I dont think od neither as being "crap".
Absolutely false. They would JUMP at the chance to be citizens, and they are. My dad became one last year, and my mother 10 years ago. My uncle a few years ago, and before she died, my grandmother 5-6 years ago. Every time the swearing in ceremony was more heavily packedf with people FROM ALL OVER!! Even in L.A. where most immigration is from Latin America.
Mariano
Well, the vast majority of the ones I met still have family at home and are using their jobs as an improved form of income since, in many cases, their wives are the breadwinners in the textile industries.
But then again, this is based on my own personal sample.
And Mariano is right, Mexican women dont have the body most people associate with South-American/Island brown women. Mexicans are mostly from the Mexica peoples.
Well, the vast majority of the ones I met still have family at home and are using their jobs as an improved form of income since, in many cases, their wives are the breadwinners in the textile industries.
But then again, this is based on my own personal sample.
And Mariano is right, Mexican women dont have the body most people associate with South-American/Island brown women. Mexicans are mostly from the Mexica peoples.
Im glad weve been able to disagree and present our differing views while still being civil. I prefer a person I disagree with but has intelligent responses than a dumbass who just says "Im right......cuz.......fuck you, youre a fag!" haha.
Take it from me who went to High School in L.A. The Latin girls were definitely not the demographic that had what most people prefer in the bodies of their women. Not that theres anything wrong with that. I just like slim waists, small of their back, and big asses. Im a conossieur if you will. ;)
Mariano
P.S. Pasha, no hard feelings. I couldnt get where we were disagreeing, lol. Once again my reading comprehension non-skills at work.
the best thing is the mexican american weather man at my work is a total right wing whacko. i dont understand, he's first generation american, yet he's a total douche about his views.
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