Big debate? What do you guys think about nevada making weed legal?

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  • Jbpka06
    E30 Addict
    • Feb 2006
    • 551

    #31
    If pot is legalized it will be taxed like crazy and it will be much cheaper to get from a dealer rather than the 'store'. A black market would form and things would continue the same way.

    And my view is that it should be legalized because there will probably be around the same amount of users, just less people being criminally prosecuted.

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    • Jand3rson
      Banned
      • Oct 2003
      • 37587

      #32
      Originally posted by TerribleONE
      haha im sorry "MR. EUROSPEED" i didnt think you would get so offended...
      That's where you're mistaken, I'm not offended. It's just nothing more than irritation about yet another commonly used word in the English language that you can't even say in normal conversation without some retard going "huh huh, blunt...". It's like that stupid 420 shit.

      And just Eurospeed is fine, or Josh.

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      • blunttech
        Forum Sponsor
        • Jul 2004
        • 12850

        #33
        Originally posted by TerribleONE
        how can you not smoke weed when your username is BLUNT?
        ive smoked my share of weed back in the day. im kind of like that annoying reformed cigarette smoker who cant tolerate anyone smoking.
        ive been thru treatment twice and have been totally straight for 25 years.
        i have no problem with anyone smoking weed, in fact i have friends that still do. i just know i cant and i worry about you guys who think it has no effect on you. in my case alcohol led to weed, weed led to chemicals and before you know it youre shooting coke in your arm. this was my experience. i also vividly remember thinking anyone who would use a needle was a total loser. its amazing what drugs do to you and how they change your perceptions
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        • equate975
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          • Jun 2004
          • 3382

          #34
          I think one of the ideas is to make the legal ramifcations for people under 21 (assuming the law passes) who are caught with weed will get a bigger punishment. Since the law wont have to worry about 21+ people they can just focus on the underage kids.

          Weed is definatly easier to score. There no store hours, your not carded, and anyone can deal. If leagalizing it would take a huge portion out of street weed, if not stop it, it would be as hard for kids to get weed as it is for them to get alcohol. Granted, alcohol is still pretty easy to get, but its still harder than weed is now.
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          • equate975
            No R3VLimiter
            • Jun 2004
            • 3382

            #35
            Originally posted by blunt
            ive smoked my share of weed back in the day. im kind of like that annoying reformed cigarette smoker who cant tolerate anyone smoking.
            ive been thru treatment twice and have been totally straight for 25 years.
            i have no problem with anyone smoking weed, in fact i have friends that still do. i just know i cant and i worry about you guys who think it has no effect on you. in my case alcohol led to weed, weed led to chemicals and before you know it youre shooting coke in your arm. this was my experience. i also vividly remember thinking anyone who would use a needle was a total loser. its amazing what drugs do to you and how they change your perceptions
            Thats like saying weed is a "gateway" drug... Well technically.. isnt caffine a "gateway" to alcohol then alcohol a "gateway" to weed? But no, when we talk about alcohol which obviously didnt work to ban, people find it ok to do since everyone does. But since weed is legal its ok to bash it.

            It is true that its a "gateway" of sort. I can definatly see people using weed then moving up in the drugs. But at the same time, I know people twice my age that have smoked for a long time, and never touched crack or meth or coke or whatever.

            But that is like alcoholism, some people can drink and be fine. Some people become alcoholics. But we dont ban alcohol JUST because a few people are alcoholics? So we shouldnt ban weed just because a few people decide it isnt good enough and try a new drug.
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            • aschmidt
              E30 Addict
              • Feb 2005
              • 457

              #36
              Originally posted by uofom3
              I think it would be a great thing.

              Weed is infinitely less harmful to society than alcohol. When did you see two pot heads get high and beat each other up, drive like bats out of hell, rape people, and vandalize property? You didn't, because their stoned asses were eating cheeto's watching star trek re runs.

              The government could also regulate the stuff, which would increase consistancy and remove the chances of getting something that is laced with shit you don't want. This would make it safer.

              Tax revenue is another benefit of this.

              The problem I see our country facing is that it's like teenage sex. People tell their kids its bad, assume their kids don't engage in it, and preach abstinence. Fine, but that isn't going to stop kids from fucking like rabbits. So we got smart and started teaching sex ed, giving out condoms, planned parenthood, etc, and it dropped the teen pregnancy rate. Go figure?

              If we as a society realized that a good portion of those around either have or do smoke pot and for the most part it has not negatively changed their lives, we could stop having it be mystified into this monster that would ruin society if available to the masses.
              I couldn't have said it any better myself.
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              • blunttech
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                • Jul 2004
                • 12850

                #37
                Originally posted by equate975
                Thats like saying weed is a "gateway" drug... Well technically.. isnt caffine a "gateway" to alcohol then alcohol a "gateway" to weed? But no, when we talk about alcohol which obviously didnt work to ban, people find it ok to do since everyone does. But since weed is legal its ok to bash it.

                It is true that its a "gateway" of sort. I can definatly see people using weed then moving up in the drugs. But at the same time, I know people twice my age that have smoked for a long time, and never touched crack or meth or coke or whatever.

                But that is like alcoholism, some people can drink and be fine. Some people become alcoholics. But we dont ban alcohol JUST because a few people are alcoholics? So we shouldnt ban weed just because a few people decide it isnt good enough and try a new drug.
                you are right. that is why i specified "in my case" and "this was my experience"... everyone is different. when it comes right down to it,, no mind altering drug does anyone any good. im not talking about medicine but rather recreational drugs. sure some are fun but they will do you absolutley no good and in most cases will harm you. they are a crutch.
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                • ehlpitel
                  Advanced Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 118

                  #38
                  Even though I don't smoke anymore, I'm totally for it being legal.

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                  • StereoInstaller1
                    GAS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 22679

                    #39
                    I heard a statistic once that 1 out of 3 black men between the ages of 18 and 35 are behind bars as a direct result of a pot bust.

                    Think about that for a second...33% of young black men gone for weed.

                    Think of how much money the federal prison system could save.

                    That is if that statistic is true. I wonder if we as a nation really even know how much having pot be illegal is costing us. Billions annually, to be sure.

                    I haven't smoked since 8/25/1997, but I fully support total legalization.

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                    • blunttech
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                      • Jul 2004
                      • 12850

                      #40
                      we could save even more if we legalized crack,rape and murder.
                      look back 50 years and see the little steps weve taken to turn this world into a cesspool. am i the only one who thinks this way??
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                      • uofom3
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 5392

                        #41
                        Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                        I heard a statistic once that 1 out of 3 black men between the ages of 18 and 35 are behind bars as a direct result of a pot bust.

                        Think about that for a second...33% of young black men gone for weed.

                        Think of how much money the federal prison system could save.

                        That is if that statistic is true. I wonder if we as a nation really even know how much having pot be illegal is costing us. Billions annually, to be sure.

                        I haven't smoked since 8/25/1997, but I fully support total legalization.

                        Luke
                        I see the alarming statistic here, but I think that there is something else going on. In the black community, there seems to be a tie between the use of marijuana and being "Gangster" or whatever. Some gangster ass shit takes place around drugs, whereas if you look at your average white/asian/middle eastern male in the same age demographic I think the concept and the way weed is used and viewed is different. Because of this, shit happens surrounding drugs/alcohol that creates major issues legally that may not be totally related to the pot itself, but I aggree pot does play a major role.

                        I also like the idea that this saves the prison system a LOT of money. Our jails here in Oregon are overcrowded. People are getting let off from serious crimes because we don't have anywhere to keep them long term. If you take the guy out of the system who got caught with xx.xx amount of weed (and that was it), you remove a lot of people from the system. The system does loose money because they can't write citations any more, but they can make likely MORE back in the form of tax revenue from its legalization.
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                        • uofom3
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 5392

                          #42
                          Originally posted by blunt
                          we could save even more if we legalized crack,rape and murder.
                          look back 50 years and see the little steps weve taken to turn this world into a cesspool. am i the only one who thinks this way??

                          This sounds like the Puritan/Religious Right viewpoint. I'll address this when I have a few more minutes.
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                          • german g
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1608

                            #43
                            Fuck it. I'm moving to Nevada. Thats my stance:D
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                            • LINUS
                              R3VLimited
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 2422

                              #44
                              Legalize it and tax it. Package it and sell it at the liquor stores. Make the same DUI laws still apply, and leave drug testing in place for safety sensitive jobs.

                              It's not how you handle the good times, but the faith you keep in the bad that defines you.

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                              • ColdAccord
                                R3V Elite
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 5926

                                #45
                                I don't think weed is serious enough to justify the time some people have done for it.

                                someone goes to jail for weed, comes out with prison mentality, even though before they were just a pothead. so where do you go from there? if you've done time and have a felony on your record, you're not getting a job. so where you once could be contributing to society, paying taxes, etc, you are now costing the government money for your living wages and prison costs.

                                i would hope that regulation of marijuana would reduce the availability to those underage. obv if they tax the shit out of it there will stil be an underground. but if they didn't, then it would put weed dealers out of business, and the government regulation will prevent (somewhat) kids from getting it.
                                Originally posted by blunt
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