The one term senator from NY wants to be President

[blunttech]

Myself I am a straight ticket Dem an I am not looking foward to this? She has a good chance to pull it out (I cant stand the fact I just said that), with how W has fucked up the war, the econmy going south on his watch, with little done to stop its slide. Lots of other shit will factor in but I think she can do it (god I said it agin).

please let me hear your explanation on how the economy is going south??
you dont know what the fuck youre talking about

[Jand3rson]

Political discussions on this board are fucking hilarious.

Please, all of you, continue.

[skuyler]

I think that from the notorious reputation (look at first replies) of Hillary is going to be too much for her to overcome as people often gloss over her political experience in New York. As far as "best candidates" for presidents is concerned, it sure seems that Obama is as good as we are going to get, and I hope others feel that way too.

[skuyler]

please let me hear your explanation on how the economy is going south??
you dont know what the fuck youre talking about

I'm not sure what he'll reply with, and I'm not an economist, but the US dollar has continued to depreciate among other currencies and is on its way to become the new "canadian money." Also, the US's trade deficit continues to expand as we're expected to surpass record after record, year after year.

Let's try to keep this civil though

[mrsleeve]

please let me hear your explanation on how the economy is going south??
you dont know what the fuck youre talking about

WTF do you have any idea what the fuck is going on in the word? Or do live in candy land?

Going south well here's a few Massive lay offs in nearly every industry from manufacturing to drug company's (phizer is laying off 2000 more people here in MI alone). Constant job out sourcing (and and there are corporate tax insentive's for it to boot), Minimum wage stagnated for what 7 years. As stated above the dollar dosen't carry as well as it used to on the forex now dose it. The last couple of years the only thing that held up the economy was the new home construction boom. Now that new construction starts on on a down swing I don't see that holding the numbers up. Huge surge in fuel, construction materials, medical supplies and treatment, the average american wage has not been keeping up with inflation. The average american family caries 10k in CC debt. Shall I contiune?

[Axxe]

Hillary don't know shit, and doesn't know what it will take to fix this country. Hell, I don't think most people know what it will take, but I know certainly she doesn't. If we have Hillary and Nancy both in office at the same time I am going to Canada.

Come on up, you can crash at my place provided you bring an aluminum m30 flywheel and a sleeping bag.

[nando]

WTF do you have any idea what the fuck is going on in the word? Or do live in candy land?

Going south well here's a few Massive lay offs in nearly every industry from manufacturing to drug company's (phizer is laying off 2000 more people here in MI alone). Constant job out sourcing (and and there are corporate tax insentive's for it to boot), Minimum wage stagnated for what 7 years. As stated above the dollar dosen't carry as well as it used to on the forex now dose it. The last couple of years the only thing that held up the economy was the new home construction boom. Now that new construction starts on on a down swing I don't see that holding the numbers up. Huge surge in fuel, construction materials, medical supplies and treatment, the average american wage has not been keeping up with inflation. The average american family caries 10k in CC debt. Shall I contiune?

blah blah blah

consistent ecnonomic growth for the last 6 years, the lowest unemployment rates in decades (and a TIGHTENING labor market, with the coming retirement of 50 million baby boomers looming in the next decade, who all need replaced), ramping expansion in B2B and infrastructure, booming tech industry, a huge housing boom that only recently cooled off (and with the exception of a few speculators who lost their shorts, still climbing at "normal" rates), huge expansion in the services and contracting industries. inflation is pretty much dead; the fed will soon begin to loosen it's grip and lower interest rates (if you have any idea what that means?).

oh yeah, the stock market is at an all time high!

manufacturing will continue to decline in the USA as american workers decide they don't like standing in one place for 10 hours a day pressing the same button over and over again, while our serivices industry continues to grow and our finance industry continues to supply capital for 75% of the world's business.

but you are pissed because you can't get by with an 8th grade education and a job at a factory where you are bored out of your mind and your back hurts like hell as you slave for a paycheck you will have already spent before you even get it.. have fun working manual labor until you are 75..

oh yeah and if you are still working for minimum wage after being in the job market for 10 years you are a worthless sack of shit who doesn't deserve a raise. seriously, unless you are working your first job or are a complete moron you probably make much more than minimum wage..

[blunttech]

blah blah blah

consistent ecnonomic growth for the last 6 years, the lowest unemployment rates in decades (and a TIGHTENING labor market, with the coming retirement of 50 million baby boomers looming in the next decade, who all need replaced), ramping expansion in B2B and infrastructure, booming tech industry, a huge housing boom that only recently cooled off (and with the exception of a few speculators who lost their shorts, still climbing at "normal" rates), huge expansion in the services and contracting industries. inflation is pretty much dead; the fed will soon begin to loosen it's grip and lower interest rates (if you have any idea what that means?).

oh yeah, the stock market is at an all time high!

manufacturing will continue to decline in the USA as american workers decide they don't like standing in one place for 10 hours a day pressing the same button over and over again, while our serivices industry continues to grow and our finance industry continues to supply capital for 75% of the world's business.

but you are pissed because you can't get by with an 8th grade education and a job at a factory where you are bored out of your mind and your back hurts like hell as you slave for a paycheck you will have already spent before you even get it.. have fun working manual labor until you are 75..

oh yeah and if you are still working for minimum wage after being in the job market for 10 years you are a worthless sack of shit who doesn't deserve a raise. seriously, unless you are working your first job or are a complete moron you probably make much more than minimum wage..

thank you nando for saving me the keystrokes. he is another liberal who is an expert at regurgitating what he hears in the democratic press.

[trent]

thank you nando for saving me the keystrokes. he is another liberal who is an expert at regurgitating what he hears in the democratic press.

Circle gets the Square, I am going to have to agree!

[FredK]

oh ok, I was gonna cut myself while listening to MCR at volume 11 on my ipod if trent was really banned. but he's not.

[BimmerBall]

thank you nando for saving me the keystrokes. he is another liberal who is an expert at regurgitating what he hears in the democratic press.

+1

wasn't it Ronald Reagan who said "It's not that liberals are stupid. They just know so much that isn't true."


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[JPL]

thank you nando for saving me the keystrokes. he is another liberal who is an expert at regurgitating what he hears in the democratic press.

or regurgitating what he hears from his socialist teachers. either way its about the same. also, in regards to the outsourcing bs, nobody seems to have heard of globalization.

[schmidty]

no chicks in office

yeah...or black people :rolls eyes:

[nando]

or regurgitating what he hears from his socialist teachers. either way its about the same. also, in regards to the outsourcing bs, nobody seems to have heard of globalization.

I prefer to think of it as importing labor. ;)

[1991 318is]

Do any of you really think Hillary or anybody else being president is going to make two tits worth of difference. The problem is that all of them are in somebody's pocket. Politics determines whether you need vaseline, bandages , or both. We're gonna get f**ked, it's a simple matter of liking the way somebody kisses. I'm assuming that if you are among the super rich that are making out like bandits in all of this, you are not posting on a forum about 15+ year old cars. However you can be racist, sexist, and think like one. Maybe you can even feel better about yourself. Damn, how would I know I am better than you if we were all equal?