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[CleanAzzE30z]

I dont think weed leads you to harder drugs per se, I just think it breaks that barrier of doing drugs period and brings you in an environment where obviously youll see other drugs and lowers your guard to doing those drugs.

Mariano

[schmidty]

I dont think weed leads you to harder drugs per se, I just think it breaks that barrier of doing drugs period and brings you in an environment where obviously youll see other drugs and lowers your guard to doing those drugs.

Mariano

Dude...those two statements are like one in the same. do you not see the oxymoron in that???

[CleanAzzE30z]

Dude...those two statements are like one in the same. do you not see the oxymoron in that???

no. I think it makes it more possible for one to try harder drugs because of certain circumstances, but I dont think its a "gateway" drug in the way people make it seem.

Mariano

[s0urce]

Pot smoking stunts your capabilities to be as great as your original genetics allowed you to become. No one ever got smarter, or more driven and motivated because of a half dozen bong hits.
That said, it isn't the government's job to tell you that you can't by making it illegal.

Wrong. Roger waters, Ian Anderson, Roger Daltrey...Don't tell me weed didnt make these guys better. You'd be lying to yourself. I could go on for hours.

[schmidty]

no. I think it makes it more possible for one to try harder drugs because of certain circumstances, but I dont think its a "gateway" drug in the way people make it seem.

Mariano

I dont know what your definition of a 'gateway drug' is but....

The "gateway drug theory" describes the phenomenon in which an introduction to drug-using behavior through the use of tobacco, alcohol, or marijuana is related to subsequent use of other illicit drugs. The theory suggests that, all other things being equal, an adolescent who uses any one drug is more likely to use another drug.

...is that not basically the same thing u just said?

[schmidty]

Wrong. Roger waters, Ian Anderson, Roger Daltrey...Don't tell me weed didnt make these guys better. You'd be lying to yourself. I could go on for hours.

smarter? more driven and motivated? no
made killer music? yes

[blunttech]

Wrong. Roger waters, Ian Anderson, Roger Daltrey...Don't tell me weed didnt make these guys better. You'd be lying to yourself. I could go on for hours.

god you are a fucking tool
tell me what a blessing to the world timothy leary was.
take away the musical instruments from those dudes and they are burntout hippies.

[s0urce]

god you are a fucking tool
tell me what a blessing to the world timothy leary was.
take away the musical instruments from those dudes and they are burntout hippies.

You're a fucking tool. Take away bill gate's computer and hes a geeky MacOS nerd sitting in a basement. Take away Television and Lucille Ball is an ugly redhead. Take the one thing away from people that make them stand out and well yea...I suppose they wont stand out so much. Thanks for the deep thoughts.

No one cares about your past bad habbits.

[blunttech]

You're a fucking tool. Take away bill gate's computer and hes a geeky MacOS nerd sitting in a basement. Take away Television and Lucille Ball is an ugly redhead. Take the one thing away from people that make them stand out and well yea...I suppose they wont stand out so much. Thanks for the deep thoughts.

No one cares about your past bad habbits.

you have the logic of a retard. comparing bill gates to roger waters. roger waters is a great musician ,no doubt. but that doesnt make him a great person.
i dont know how bill gates got into this. maybe you have a thing for nerdy MacOs guys. theres nothing wrong with that. to say drugs makes anyone a better person shows me you are indeed a fucking tool. keep hitting the pipe and check back in 20 years from the kiosk at the mall. eat a minimum wage dick

[s0urce]

you have the logic of a retard. comparing bill gates to roger waters. roger waters is a great musician ,no doubt. but that doesnt make him a great person.
i dont know how bill gates got into this. maybe you have a thing for nerdy MacOs guys. theres nothing wrong with that. to say drugs makes anyone a better person shows me you are indeed a fucking tool. keep hitting the pipe and check back in 20 years from the kiosk at the mall. eat a minimum wage dick

Who said this was about being a "great person". He was a great musician, and marijuana use no doubt played a significant role in this. I never said drugs make people "better". But I'm not going to say that drugs ALWAYS make people "worse".

I don't smoke weed anymore, I gave that up a while ago for personal reasons. Everyone is different, I don't nag at the people that do smoke and tell them they're not going to be "better people" because of their own decisions.

Everyone is trying to get ahead of the other guy in life -- It's the nature of the game. In the industry I work in, being slow on my feet is not an option. On the other hand, if was trying to rip out some killer music on a day-to-day basis then marijuana might just fit the bill.

Assuming that I "hit the pipe" and suck minimum wage dick just shows how low you have to go to make your point sound valid.

Comparing Gates and Waters was a pretty simple comparison; both are masterminds of their own talents and pioneers in their own ways. It sounds like you've really got a chip on your shoulder with a past drug addiction. For this I'm terribly sorry, and I hope your bitterness will subside.

Most people eventually find the error of their own ways. For some, marijuana use will prove to be one of those errors. For others, it might not. Learn to be a tad bit more open minded and accept the fact that not everyone lives their life as you do.

Best of luck.

[Dave]

I am rather a Libertarian in most respects and can appreciate the notion of marijuana being decriminalized. I have no problem with people making the choice to light up now and again.

Having said that, I can tell you that at the ripe old age of 36, I know of NO ONE my age who has any level of success in life that they earned or maintian that regularly uses marijuana. Of my peers, the ones I know that still fire up are all mediocre people at best, if they have not gone downhill.

The only couple of people I know around my age that still partake that live well do so because they came from money or have been given the keys to daddy's successful business.

[Ray Smoodiver]

But I would never ever ever ever EVER fly unless I was 100% percent sober. I don't fuck around with my life or other peoples lives. You can fuck up and die very easily up there. So no worries about having your pilot being stoned, cause that won't be me.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Pilots here have to undergo drug tests every 4 months - if anything is in your system - you lose your licence, I can't believe you'd even take this risk.

[Ray Smoodiver]

I'd touched alot of things before I touched weed - My gateway drug was alot further up the tree

[LINUS]

Wrong. Roger waters, Ian Anderson, Roger Daltrey...Don't tell me weed didnt make these guys better. You'd be lying to yourself. I could go on for hours.

Ok.......weed didn't make those guys any better.

You asked for it.

Now, in seriousness - I wonder how much better any of those you chose to list might have been had they passed on the drugs and just concentrated on playing at the full level they might have been capable of.

Drugs are an illiusion. Everyone knows that.
Ever wondered how "Inagaddadevedda" might have turned out had it actually been "In the Garden of Eden"? How about "Kashmir" or Stairway to Heaven"?

Really, bring a stronger arguement. I can.

Aerosmith is a bunch of nearly geriatric old dudes who, at the request of doctors, all laid off - just laid off, not quit - Steven Tyler was the only one who still claims he quit entirely. And look at the sharpness they have now going back and playing classic oldies. Also, Tyler himself stated that he regretted the amount of time he wasted being a burnout. Read up on what he says. Lots of other old rockers echo the sentiment.

How about metal - like it? I do. Helmet - for their time the single tighest band I recall seeing live. Straight edgers.

If you even try to bring a weak arguement back, I'm warning you now - I plan to use Nirvana and more importantly Alice in Chains up next time. Poster boys for what bad living with H can do. I hate Cobain, so I encourage you to give me a reason to rip him apart.

[pineapplegti]

u kids cry worse than women.. some people use drugs some don't. some kill themselves doing it some don't.. some have addictive personalities some don't. There i just summarized this entire thread in one post.. now go smoke 2 joints and chill the fuck out u fuckin sissies!