Gun Guys, Assault Wepons Ban is back

[Nick]

I love bayonets.
That's one reason I could never be a general.

I'd always be yelling 'FIX BAYONETS'...'CHARGGEEEEE!'.
And then everyone would die.

[equate975]

The thing is, when uninformed people hear "assault weapon" they think of AK47's etc that are FULL AUTO.

Full auto does not denote a gun to be an assault rifle. Although assault rifles can be full auto.

In either case, just because anyone can own an assault rifle, not anyone can own a fully automatic gun of any kind. You have to have shitloads of permits and do tons of proper paperwork to make it legal, oh and the government can come into your house whenever they please to see how your full autos are doing.

To be considered an "assault rifle" there are 6 categories IIRC, and IIRC if you have 4 or more it is considered an assault rifle.

1. A scope
2. A pistol grip
3. Flash supressor
4. Bipod/Tripod
5. Hi capacity magazine
6. Laser sight (I think this is one)

So lets say you leaglly buy a semi-auto AR15 or something, and it has a pistol grip, you put a scope on it, and a high cap magazine. Well thats 100% legal, now slap on a bipod, whoops now you have an assault rifle, magically this rifle is way to dangerous now and your going to kill people.


What people need to know is assault rifle DOES NOT = Full auto

And if your one of those people who preach "well why do you need one?" I have this to say to you, Why do you need more HP? Why do you need bigger brakes? Why do you need new rims? Why do you need smiles? Why do you need ANYTHING on your car? You don't... But its fun.

[Vedubin01]

Again lee, how many people were killed buy a motor vehicle? The numbers are way more than all the gun related murders but not to many people think anything of a death from a car. Guns have a negative association because they are used in war. If wars were fought with anything other than guns then people would not think to much of them. Assault Weapons make up so little of the gun related deaths.


Ban cars.........its for the children!

Who got shot? Well don't you remember Columbine?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...chool_massacre

[Nick]

Hahahahaha.

Now I want a bear claw.

See, now if i had my M-16, I could mow down everyone in front of me and skip to the front of the line.

[Digitalwave]

[Nick]

^Agreed, 100%

The Democrats always screw things up.

The 2nd Amendment doesn't say 'You can keep and bear arms except the ones we tell you not to'.
It says:

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Now for those of you who say.."WAAAH, it talks about being used by militias"
WTF kind of militia can you have in modern times without assault type weapons?

But the most important component is the whole...the right of the people to keep and bear arms not being infringed thing.

[Ryan Stewart]

Ive owned guns for years and havent killed anyone. I havent even tried. Just because that is the only purpose YOU can find for a gun doesnt mean I cant find others. In fact, Browning would argue he created his weapons to save lives.

Has there been a rash of mass killings with assult type riles since the ban was lifted? Last few I have seen involved traditional guns that have been legal for some time. Locally there has been stabbings.

So we should ban ALL guns and knives. You will have to cut everything with a spoon. Dont sharpen the edge of the spoon, though, that will get you 20 years.

[LINUS]

Who got shot? Well don't you remember Columbine?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...chool_massacre

Lee - I can to some degree see your side - but really triggerlocks and gun safes need to be a part of gun ownership. Here in WA they don't charge sales tax on gun safes, as a gun safety device is encouraged.

You put your wrenches in a toolbox, and guns should go in a safe. For the record, I have a safe myself.

Besides that, blaming a gun isn't right - it's the human.

[german g]

Have shitloads of fun?

I have a friend with an MP5 and he has never hunted or shot at a person with it. Its just fun to burn up lots of ammo and destroy things. Its good redneck fun.

Why does someone need a 500hp Corvette? We should ban those since nobody needs them. Same thing goes for cigs and booze. They kill people and nobody needs them. Casual sex is also dangerous. That shit should be banned too. Sex for procreation ONLY!

Banning shit is just step one.

now I dont think they should be banned at all, but comparing something that is initially produced to kill people is not the same as something that is produced to do something else, but CAN kill people...thats apples and oranges.

[Ryan Stewart]

I still wonder what a civilian would do with the usual M16 or AK47. Hunt rabbits?

Have shitloads of fun?

I have a friend with an MP5 and he has never hunted or shot at a person with it. Its just fun to burn up lots of ammo and destroy things. Its good redneck fun.

Why does someone need a 500hp Corvette? We should ban those since nobody needs them. Same thing goes for cigs and booze. They kill people and nobody needs them. Casual sex is also dangerous. That shit should be banned too. Sex for procreation ONLY!

Banning shit is just step one.

[german g]

I saw it on futureweapons. was pretty awesome. the round they used in the .50 cal was called the "416" which stood for .416 caliber. those is uses the same powder cartridge as the 50 cal. this enables it to shoot much much farther than a standard 50 cal because the bullet is lighter, but not too light.

Im fucking addicted to future weapons...Only gun I own is a 9mm, and I really dont see the need for people to own Assult rifles, but I think that it is a right that we have as americans that should never be taken from us..
And I'm a "Democrap"

[Massive Lee]

Who got shot? Well don't you remember Columbine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbine_High_School_massacre

[iCleaks]

How many people in the US actually died after being shot with an assault weapon last year once you exclude the following two groups:

1. Those who posses an assault weapon and their immediate family (Stupid if often the cause) (who cares)
or
2. Engaged in some high risk behavior such as selling drugs
(who cares)

Handguns are far, far, far more dangerous to the average american (and to the average police officer). So why the focus on assault weapons?

Easier to keep the people under control.

[LINUS]

Our cops don't even carry guns, love it how you civilians 'need' them.

Do you all have any animals that might be capable of mauling a human? As a Washington stater, I have bears I see the tracks & poo of all the time, and occasionally see the backside of one hightailing it into the underbrush to dodge me. It wouldn't be that way if I got between mama & a cub. Also we have a wildcat population that seems to be growing, and we keep pushing into its' world.

I always keep a .45auto on me when we go quaddin' up in the hills. Of the 4 of us who ride together, 2 of us carry on the trails. Never unholstered yet, and I hope I never will. But it sure beats starring on a TV show of "when wild animals attack".

Bears at least hear the quads before we surprise them, but on a horse it might not be like that - I see most of the horse folks carry, and that seems more responsible an action than not to carry.

[schmidty]

Guns are what built America what it is today, the greatest Nation in the world!

as well as a (non 3rd world) nation with one of the largest murder rates per capita!