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    Originally posted by scabzzzz View Post
    Noted. Ive been playing a lot of Call of Duty. My personal favorite is the SPAS-12. Should I just buy one of those?

    Oh yeah, I should also note that I ran into a friend from high school. Hes on reserve from the Army as a sniper or some shit and he wants to go shoot some big guns. Being a good redneck, I agreed.
    What other assault rifles are good for target practice for beginners? I also havent shot anything in several years.
    You dont want a spas 12. it is overly complicated design. for example it has a loading gate lock which you have to press a button in order load shells into the tube. not something you want to worry about in a stress situation.

    The Spas does look cool, but when you life and the lives of those you care about is on the line, function greater than form. Get a tried and true design like a Remington 870, easy to use and will never let you down.

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      Originally posted by ALYKZANDYR View Post
      You dont want a spas 12. it is overly complicated design. for example it has a loading gate lock which you have to press a button in order load shells into the tube. not something you want to worry about in a stress situation.

      The Spas does look cool, but when you life and the lives of those you care about is on the line, function greater than form. Get a tried and true design like a Remington 870, easy to use and will never let you down.
      I WAS trolling with the COD comment haha
      But I am serious about the assault rifle just to learn markmenship. Its alwyas interested me, and I think Im adult enough in life to own such a thing, and I have the access to proper education and land to boot. Like I said, a couple of buddies have been bugging me to come shoot their AR's and AK's, so I'm gonna go do just that. I know I'll be addicted thoug, and thanks for the info. Learned some new stuff.
      Thanks!

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        I think this isn't being properly addressed.. It's not like you can pick up an AR and hit black at 600 yards with iron sights here... You say marksmanship. Do you have any decent history shooting guns, shotguns or rifles, at any distance? I would suggest NOT getting an AR and starting with a .22 bolt gun to learn fundamentals and be able to train very cheaply compared to an AR.... My AR sat for a long long time cause it was expensive to shoot and just not that fun for me cause I didn't really know what I was doing.... I sold it, bought a pistol and a Savage bolt gun and the savage is 1000x more fun than the AR was. Some people are different but if you don't really have a background in firearms, I wouldn't suggest buying an AR right away. You also mention using it for home defense... Don't do that. That bullet will go through a person, through a wall, and into your neighbors house without breaking a sweat. You'll do as you please I'm sure and I know people will disagree with me, but I'd suggest a .22. It's not emasculating when your friends spent $200 to shoot for a couple hours and you spent $25 with ammo leftover, and are hitting things they aren't...

        I have some good links bookmarked but I can't access em right now. I'll try to post later

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        Originally posted by DTM190
        "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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          If you've never shot a gun before, buy a .22 rifle and learn proper fundamentals that way. .22 costs $.02/shot, .223 for an AR is what, $.20? adds up quick.
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            Originally posted by Bishop View Post
            I think this isn't being properly addressed.. It's not like you can pick up an AR and hit black at 600 yards with iron sights here... You say marksmanship. Do you have any decent history shooting guns, shotguns or rifles, at any distance? I would suggest NOT getting an AR and starting with a .22 bolt gun to learn fundamentals and be able to train very cheaply compared to an AR.... My AR sat for a long long time cause it was expensive to shoot and just not that fun for me cause I didn't really know what I was doing.... I sold it, bought a pistol and a Savage bolt gun and the savage is 1000x more fun than the AR was. Some people are different but if you don't really have a background in firearms, I wouldn't suggest buying an AR right away. You also mention using it for home defense... Don't do that. That bullet will go through a person, through a wall, and into your neighbors house without breaking a sweat. You'll do as you please I'm sure and I know people will disagree with me, but I'd suggest a .22. It's not emasculating when your friends spent $200 to shoot for a couple hours and you spent $25 with ammo leftover, and are hitting things they aren't...

            I have some good links bookmarked but I can't access em right now. I'll try to post later
            This. I started out with a pellet gun as a kid. Moved up to a .22 semi auto, then .222, and the first gun I bought myself was at 18, the Mosin Nagant.

            Start small/cheap, make sure you like it, get good, and move up. There's always gonna be someone to buy your old .22 to do the exact same thing.
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              When I sold my AR roughly 4 or 5 months ago, .223 was about $.46 a round... Way cheaper obviously if you buy in bulk, but I wasn't and the average consumer isnt

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              Originally posted by DTM190
              "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                Originally posted by Bishop View Post
                When I sold my AR roughly 4 or 5 months ago, .223 was about $.46 a round... Way cheaper obviously if you buy in bulk, but I wasn't and the average consumer isnt
                Wow, ammo's gone up since I last bought any. $.62 a round for .30-06.

                Now I don't feel so bad about going shooting only once a year.
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                  Originally posted by Bishop View Post
                  When I sold my AR roughly 4 or 5 months ago, .223 was about $.46 a round... Way cheaper obviously if you buy in bulk, but I wasn't and the average consumer isnt
                  Heh, I thought you said .222 and got all excited. Almost PM'd you to grab me some a'dat shit!

                  .222 is like $37 a box/20 here....
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                    Holy fuck lol.... Love my 9mm and .22

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                    Originally posted by DTM190
                    "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                      Shit last batch of .308 I bought worked out 54.5 cents a round after shipping, It was Federal red box golden eagle. And the last batch of Federal GMM I bought was about 85 cents a round. Where they hell are you guys buying .223 at that costs that much. Should be about $350 a 1000 for decent ammo and upwards of 650 a 1000 for Black Hills match or FGGM. I dont shoot .223 so I dont really care just wondering more than anything.


                      .22 can still be bought for next to nothing works out at about 3 cents a round.

                      Scabies: Everything has been covered well, I am just going to reiterate, Shotgun for Home defense, Cheap reliable and common Mossberg 930 with 5, 6,7,8 + one in the chamber capacities depending on which sub model you go with, its one of better entry level auto loaders that will hold that kinda fire power. If you want to go a little cheaper then a Rem 870, or Mossy 500 will do you just as well. They are pump actions and I have a 870 with an extended mag sitting in my closet.

                      For rifle, like bishop said get a simple bolt action .22lr and a decent rim fire glass on it (assuming you want to use a scope). And learn your fundamentals and practice with it . Not saying dont get an AR too, just the .22lr you can learn and practice on the cheap and get into a good one with a 1000 rounds and glass for less than 400 bucks to practice with.
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                        Im about $450-500 total into my bolt .22

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                        Originally posted by DTM190
                        "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                          I got about 360 into my 2 Mosins. 2 are currently operational, ( one '43 round and one '25 hex) the first one i bought i have since turned into a parts kit. The receiver was cut very sloppy and over time became harder and harder to cycle the bolt, and to the point where it wouldn't eject at all. I hold the belief that the extractor grove was cut by a drunk wookie. So i stripped it, all the small parts are in a ziplock in my toolbox with soem oil on them. eventually im going to seperate the barrel from the receiver and use the receiver for a paper weight.

                          my other two cycle almost butter smooth

                          my next gun purchase will be in a year or 2, considering a PTR91, or an LRB M14. Im going to be so pissed if they ban this stuff in the mean time, so pissed.
                          Last edited by ALYKZANDYR; 08-03-2011, 06:21 PM.

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                            I have a problem with my Mosin. When I go to cycle it, sometimes the next round (but usually the first round) won't slide up into the chamber. It just chills down there like "fuck you!" and jams up. I free it up by opening the bottom of the magazine, and generally that causes it to shift into a position that favors it sliding into the chamber.

                            I've tried taking it apart, oiling everything up, etc, etc. No dice.

                            Any thoughts?
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                              Yes. It's a $90 gun from world war 2 put together by Russians.


                              :)

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                              Originally posted by DTM190
                              "fuck the kangaroo dude, his toilet water swirls the wrong way anyway, plus i never liked crocodile dundee or Steve Irwin and vegemite tastes like shit"

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                                Originally posted by Bishop View Post
                                Yes. It's a $90 gun from world war 2 put together by Russians.


                                :)

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