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    I want to try shooting them.

    Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
    ~ John Adams ~

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      Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
      ~ John Adams ~

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        What do you think would be the better of these two? I realize the first one will be much easier to install but I'm confused about why they even make both:

        - Daniel Defense 7.0 Omega Carbine Quad Rail


        The Patent Pending Daniel Defense Omega Rail system is the most exciting rail system to hit the market in years! The Omega Rail is a free float rail system that allows the individual operator to easily install it with the provided Allen Key and requires ZERO modification to the weapon! The Omega Rail features a detachable lower rail, an integral QD sling swivel mount, with rotation limiter, and an uninterrupted upper rail platform. This light weight rail system is meticulously CNC machined from Aircraft Grade Aluminum and is Military Specification Type III Hard Coat Anodized. All the Omega Rail fasteners are military specification.
        The Omega Rail 7.0 is designed to work with carbine length AR15 gas systems and its exceptionally light weight makes it perfect for short rifles where size and weight are crucial performance attributes.
        All Daniel Defense Rail Systems are built to the 1913 Military Specification and are 100% Quality Assurance checked for conformity to the specification.
        The Omega Rail comes standard with three black ladders to protect the 1913 rails as well as the shooters hand. The Ladders are constructed from santoprene, which can handle heat up to 350 degrees.

        Price: $246.00



        - Daniel Defense 7.0 Lite Quad Rail


        The Daniel Defense AR15 Lite Rail 7.0 is the lightest rail system utilizing a steel barrel nut available on the market, bar none! It weighs an astonishing 9 ozs (including the bolt up plate, barrel nut, and bolt up screws) but is as sturdy as similar designs weighing twice as much. Free floating design for enhanced accuracy. Front sight tower must be removed for installation. Includes 3 ladder style rail covers.

        Price: $265.00

        Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
        ~ John Adams ~

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          Just picked up a Glock G20 10mm Auto. 4 magazines/ about 125 rounds of various brands, not the cheap stuff(not that anything is cheap now :/ ). Hornaday 180 XTP's, Winchester Super-X Ammunition 10mm Auto 175 Grain Silvertip Hollow Point (Muzzle Velocity: 1290 fps) (Muzzle Energy: 649 ft. lbs)hunting/defense.. for $525! It's used, but not much. Not a scratch on the gun. I am very excite!
          1988SuperETA|Full I component swap|19lb injectors|Schrick 272|MSIIExtraBeta20071020|GM DIS Wasted Spark|LC-1

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            its not a fucking clip!!!!!!!!...................................... its called a magazine
            Originally posted by Fusion
            If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
            The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


            The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

            Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
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              Who said clips? :p



              I know it’s not a stripper clip going in a WWI/II ear long gun.


              Nicademus,
              I'd go for the "Daniel Defense 7.0 Omega Carbine Quad Rail" less fasteners is more in my opinion...
              Last edited by E30Eric; 02-23-2009, 08:41 PM.
              1988SuperETA|Full I component swap|19lb injectors|Schrick 272|MSIIExtraBeta20071020|GM DIS Wasted Spark|LC-1

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                Originally posted by mrsleeve View Post
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                its not a fucking clip!!!!!!!!...................................... its called a magazine

                To quote a LE friend of mine: "Clips go in little girls' hair"


                [THE 501 club - Founding Member]

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                  Originally posted by RCWells View Post
                  To quote a LE friend of mine: "Clips go in little girls' hair"
                  it's nice to have you back.

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                    Originally posted by Mot View Post
                    it's nice to have you back.
                    Why thank you! But I'm always around, even if a bit more on the quiet side nowadays. ;)


                    [THE 501 club - Founding Member]

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                      Originally posted by Nicademus View Post
                      This is what I want; the HK45...the P30 is quite cool as well:

                      Hmm there is an HK 45acp sitting down at the pawn shop with a threaded barrel. They want 800 for it. Perhaps I might have to go look at that soon.

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                        I would buy that for $800 and if its at the pawn shop that means someone got raped in the ass hard when they sold it. Probably on got 1/3 of what its being sold for so around $275. Oh yeah I bought some more things today and a few days ago:

                        - GI mag Magpul Ranger Plates (Dark Earth)
                        - Various caliber bore snakes
                        - MIAD Magpul Grip (Black)
                        - GI mag Magpul GenIII follows (have them in all my old magazines now, except for the 10round bushmaster that has some permanent plastic bottom)
                        - Troy BUIS (black)
                        - Daniels Defense 7.0 Omega Carbine Quad Rail

                        *Pictures to come in a few days. I bought everything from the following places
                        - Discount Gun Store LLC (local shop - little stuff)
                        - LaRue Tactical (Troy - I hope I get a Dillo!! Thats kinda why I bought from them ;))
                        - PK Firearms (Daniels Defense)

                        Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
                        ~ John Adams ~

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                          Cool Springfield XD in my opinion.



                          The new style of XD......the "M" ooOOoOOOo aaaaaAAAAaaah


                          Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
                          ~ John Adams ~

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                            http://www.survivalblog.com/2009/02/...er_illust.html

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                              Funny stuff; I had to pause in my reading to post this part *edit I'm posting the whole thing. Its pure gold!:

                              "Introductory Note from JWR: The following was posted at the Mike's Madhouse forum, one of the Baen's Bar Forums. (This is the forum moderated by SurvivalBlog's Editor at Large, Michael Z. Williamson.) It illustrates how incredibly naive some newbie gun owners can be. It also underscores a couple of my oft-repeated mantras: Survival is not about gadgets. It is about skills. And, tools without training are almost useless. Owning a gun doesn't make someone a "shooter" any more than owning a surfboard makes someone a surfer. Reading this letter made me laugh hysterically, but it also made me sad to think that for each "rescued' newbie that is successfully mentored by a skilled shooter, there are probably one or two others that remain blissfully ignorant. Even worse, some of these latter-day gun owners might think that merely buying several thousand dollars worth of guns and paraphernalia has somehow made them "prepared." Here is the post:

                              "This last week I had a conversation with a associate at work. First let me tell you about him, he's a little liberal and by that I am saying someone who is left of Obama. He starts up the conversation with "you know about guns right, could you teach me how to shoot my guns," at this point I am speechless, I mean this person is about the most liberal person I know. First I have to pick up my jaw and my hamster fell out of his wheel is laying on its back doing the kick'en chicken. Flabbergasted that I am I ask what type he owns and he tells me that they are "those M16 machine guns and a 45 cal automatic."

                              Having known him for about six years and he is a friend (we agreed to not talk about politics and religion years ago) I asked, "What does your wife think about the guns?" He answered: "Oh she knows we bought two of each" (Jaw on floor, Hamster now in critical condition), you have to know his wife more to the left than him, and the last time she visited [my home] I had to swear that all the guns were locked up so the children were safe.

                              The first thing I ask, do you have a gun safe, answer: "No and don't worry we haven't bought bullets yet." I tell him sure, I will walk through weapon safety and will teach him to shoot. By the way where did you buy the weapons? His answer: The local local "sporting warehouse" . I told him to bring the weapons Friday and I will go over range and weapon safety, and we'll go to the range on Saturday (today).

                              On Friday afternoon he brings the weapons and accessories over. Now I won't say the salesman saw them coming but, he sold him: two Pelican rifle cases with locks,two Blackhawk drag bags, two Pelican pistol cases. The "M16 machine guns" turned out to be a pair of S&W M&P PSX [semi-auto only M4 clone rifles] each with a Trijicon ACOG and with a green laser and forward pistol grip with flashlight and with bipod and only one magazine [for each emphasis Mike's] about the only missing accessory is the latté maker (a whole 'nother story)

                              Now I have seen decked out M4s before but this was ridiculous. With all [items] mounted weight about 15 lbs unloaded. The .45 turned out to be a Kimber SIS with 2 magazines and a shoulder holster and a belt holster with a gun belt, magazine holder. Now he isn't hurting for money but this is taking him to the cleaners. So first thing I start taking off cr*p, laser goes, pistol grip with flashlight goes, I start to take off the Trijicon but did you know that the M&P does not come with iron sights?

                              I had to ask [facetiously] why they didn't get a laser for the Kimber. His answer "It's on order."

                              Next, I put all the excess stuff in the handy Pelican box and walk through weapon safety. If you notice there were no eye or ear protection, cleaning kits [included] with all this gear [that he was sold].

                              First thing, I show them how to disassemble and clean the M4 and Kimber. I decided that we would start with the pistol and that I would bring a 22 for them to start with. The range went well we started with the targets at 5m then to 7m, 10m and so forth.it went flawlessly. No great groups but at least they were hitting the targets. We shot about 500 rounds of . 22 and ended with 200 rounds of .45.

                              They had fun and [I helped to create] another [enthusiastic] gun owner. I got them to start using a my favorite gun shop for their future purchases. (She liked my SIG P226 and wants one now).

                              We stopped at the warehouse [store] and returned some of the excess equipment, about $1,500 worth. I told them to practice the basics, and then if they wanted to they could get other accessories. I will be taking them to a different range tomorrow for the M4. Wish me luck. Now, if I could only revive my hamster!" "

                              That is sooo much money worth of stuff.....and only one mag, ROFL!!! haahhahahhh
                              Last edited by Nicademus; 02-25-2009, 03:21 PM.

                              Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
                              ~ John Adams ~

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                                I just bought a new gun

                                Well, posterity, you will never know what it cost us to preserve your freedom. I only hope that you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it.
                                ~ John Adams ~

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