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[Turf1600]

I'm far from a degree snob - I think every person has a calling in life, and they should persue it.

That said, degrees open more doors & provide an opportunity that you may not get if you have a GED.

If I have kids, they won't have jobs in high school - I'll make it real clear that school is their job & that if they can map out a decent path for their post-HS life, then they aren't bound to head off for college. If not, at least going to community college buys you 2 years to decide what you want after that. If they still don't know, at least a Bachelors in a generic field will give them a small leg up on whoever else might apply for the job they want, or give them a broad base of knowledge to draw on if the decide to pursue some unknown path.

Degrees open doors - that's a truth, not snobbery.

Besides, you never hear anyone talk about how they wasted too many years in school.

I wasted 2 years at the University of Houston going after a dual major ain psychology and sociology. Granted, I learned alot in those classes - but in retrospect I would rather have taken all core classes.

[Turf1600]

You guys should also note that equate is planning on taking business classes while in tech school. That's a clear advantage over the average mechanic.

[LINUS]

I wasted 2 years at the University of Houston going after a dual major ain psychology and sociology. Granted, I learned alot in those classes - but in retrospect I would rather have taken all core classes.

OK - but don't those classes look good on a resume, and aren't you a bit more well rounded for taking them?

I'm just saying that in the culture we live in here in the US, that school tution & time spent normally pays off, either directly from the vocation you choose or to round out your personal knowledge base as a person, that's all.

[Jesse30]

12 a day, 6 a week. I couldn't fit school in there, can you? I need to sleep after work. And, before work too.

depends what time the shop closes. night classes are always available.

:)

[Turf1600]

and I never disagreed with you. I'm only noting that it makes it easier - but it's certainly not required. Everyone seems to think that I'm saying degrees are a terrible idea - I'm just saying a lazy asshole with a degree is still a lazy asshole. A degree is not a shoe in.

[Turf1600]

Granted, I learned alot in those classes - but in retrospect I would rather have taken all core classes.

[quikveedb2]

Im just using myself as an exception to the all knowing rule.

there are exceptions, but average incomes speak volumes, and degrees do open doors. i wouldn't plan my future wellbeing around being the exception though.

hey, you have your whole life to go to school, maybe in 10 years you'll be ready, or maybe never. there is nothing wrong with working with your hands, most of us enjoy it apparently or we wouldn't be here. do what makes you happy, i do, with my degree. i work 1-2 days a week and snowboard or bike the rest, with full year-round salary. i'm not motivated by money, i make enough to live & support my vaious hobbie & habits. if wrenching is your calling go for it, but i like to keep business & pleasure separate. insinuating that a tech school degree is superior to a BS or masters stinks of ignorance, no pun intended. and i'm a degree snob i guess...i can live with that. there are some tech school, or no-school snobs 'round here too apparently. it takes all kinds...

[Turf1600]

I guess I'm the no school snob? lol you guys are killing me

[Ral]

I'm reading this while trying to finish a huge semester project... goddam it's kinda depressing. You can do fine without going to school, that's been hammered enough already. What an education is supposed to give you is to teach you how to think, and apply yourself, and have something that shows you have done so. Granted, that's usually not the focus of people getting technical degrees (like myself), and "BS" majors are generally not as marketable as technical majors, but that's supposed to be the general idea behind core classes. I'm taking a heavy engineering load now, as well as a few history courses that filled electives I needed. And, I'm happy I'm getting this exposure to different sides of the academic coin. It will, for a fact, help me out in the future. My situation's a bit different from most people on this board, granted, but it doesn't change the fact that an education is not supposed to be confined to technical training, whether at tech school or state school or wherever else. Maybe I sound like a hippie, but that's what "education" means to me.

by the way, what am I gonna do with my Aeronautical Engineering degree from the U.S. Naval Academy? (after I get done flying aircraft from the deck of a boat)- Hand that fancy, prestigious degree on the wall and buy and sell real-estate with the company me and 4 friends set up last year for that purpose.

[Ryan Stewart]

Its not useless. Like LINUS said, they open doors. I know people who are managers with liberal arts degrees while people who dont have any higher education but considerably more experience toil below them.

The majority of companies equate higher education with higher potential. Its just the way it is. Sure you can list of a bunch of billion dollar babies who dropped out but given that over 80% of startups fail within the first year that means for every bill gates there are 200 million guys whose ideas failed.

[quikveedb2]

anyone can be high and mighty if they are adequately-self assured no matter what scholastic backgound they have but:

It's not hard to have an easy life without a degree.

fair enough, however an "easy" life requires hard work at some point, intelligence, a rich family, or dumb luck (pretty much the same as a rich fam). a degree (any degree) shows a potential employer that you are at least willing to put forth the effort and are of moderate intelligence, a well rounded resume can go a long way as well, not something 4-year college gives, but something you make through your choice of employers. without above tools it may be harder to prove oneself, or even recieve the opportunity to do so. intelligence can be utilized without education, by those willing to work hard & take risk. big ups to those of you who are successful without higher education, but there are plenty out there that are not, so don't get it twisted and think that higher education gets you nothing. it's not for everyone, but there are proven advantages.

[325Projectz]

I guess I'm the no school snob? lol you guys are killing me

i'm with you dude, 100%. i'm 22, own a house, lots of toys, good job, no degree (20 credits shy of a bs).

while i think school is really important, its not everything. 90% of my friends went to 4 year colleges... they don't have shit to show for it, but a $7/hr job and a bunch of school debt. us 10% still go to school, own houses, pay off school debt as it comes, and already make a good amount of money for our age. and one thing we have over the school boys... 4 years of real world experience! it cannot be replaced. guess how long its going to take them to catch up?

[quikveedb2]

one thing we have over the school boys... 4 years of real world experience! it cannot be replaced. guess how long its going to take them to catch up?

uh yeah, except i worked in the field which i was studying while in school, so when i was done i had a degree and the 4 years of experience, in addition to the years of experience in the field i compiled before i started my college education. how long until the no school boys catch up to that?

;)

[325Projectz]

maybe you missed this part -

(20 credits shy of a bs)

and this part -

us 10% still go to school

[325Projectz]

oh yeah, i forgot to add the ;)