Global Warming: What do you think? What do you know?

[devonjordan]

The strictly human, force fed "your destroying the earth" bullshit, is bullshit.

[Turf1600]

It's 2 parts cyclical 1 part man-made.

[Maluco]

I think it does exist. The earth does go through climate shifts, hot-->cold-->hot etc. There were Ice Ages you know. Maybe we are just in an upswing.

Is it our fault, hell no. How could we, in 150 years as an "industrialized" earth, had enough effect on the climate to completely alter it. In geologic time 150 years is barely a blip.

No question, I mean in the strict context of the human aspect. People pushing it and its agenda etc..

[Old'n'Slow]

It may or may not be because of us, but it won't matter when the Yellowstone Supervolcano, now overdue to erupt by about 40,000 years blows. :up:

[atomic]

FUCK!! Al Gore




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[devonjordan]

I think it does exist. The earth does go through climate shifts, hot-->cold-->hot etc. There were Ice Ages you know. Maybe we are just in an upswing.

Is it our fault, hell no. How could we, in 150 years as an "industrialized" earth, had enough effect on the climate to completely alter it. In geologic time 150 years is barely a blip.

[Maluco]

I'll admit, most of my reading into Global Warming has consisted of articles and some searching... I don't believe in Global Warming but, more so; I don't believe in the crude manner in which it was established or the billions of dollards spent on it. I wish someone/a group would blow this shit wide open once and for all. It's already pass gotten way out of hand...

I'm sure there are some of you who may have done some research and/or simply know more than I do. If so, please share your insight and references.




Climate Scientist Roy Spencer argues:

"We live in an invisible atmospheric sea of water vapor, Earth's primary greenhouse gas. Our atmosphere could hold much more water vapor than it does, which would then lead to a much warmer Earth -- but it doesn't. So, why is the greenhouse effect limited to its current value? We don't know; scientists simply "assume" that it magically stays that way.

Current computerized climate models that predict large amounts of global warming only do so after making very crude and uncertain assumptions about how the Earth's natural greenhouse effect is maintained. In the following article I will explain why I believe that modern science can not say with any level of confidence how much of our current global warmth is caused by mankind without knowing why the Earth's greenhouse effect is limited to its current value.

In the following article I will explain why the answer to this question must be through the operation of precipitation systems, for only they can remove water vapor from the atmosphere. Even though all climate models DO contain the "average effects" of precipitation systems -- this is NOT the same as knowing how precipitation systems interactively regulate the climate system.

Al Gore likes to say that mankind puts 70 million tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere every day. What he probably doesn't know is that mother nature puts 24,000 times that amount of our main greenhouse gas -- water vapor -- into the atmosphere every day, and removes about the same amount every day. While this does not 'prove' that global warming is not manmade, it shows that weather systems have by far the greatest control over the Earth's greenhouse effect, which is dominated by water vapor and clouds."

http://www.weatherquestions.com/Roy-Spencer-on-global-warming.htm