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  • Lair
    E30 Mastermind
    • Apr 2006
    • 1553

    #346
    Originally posted by rwh11385
    You're too stupid to see the real issue with government spending is not in control of anyone, besides those who would seek to eliminate the entitlement programs in existence.

    Bush didn't establish social security, and what was the party of the person who did? Medicare? Medicaid? Food stamps?

    Democrats are great at creating social programs that cannot be funded long-term. Do you really want Obama to start new programs?

    Does "surplus to RECORD DEFICIT" mean anything to you, or are you too stupid to make the connection? Bush tanked a surplus and turned it into the largest deficit in HISTORY.

    Republicans are great at starting unwinnable wars on multiple fronts.

    Do you really want McCain to start new wars?
    McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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    • //MPower
      Advanced Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 182

      #347
      Originally posted by NavyE30
      dude take off the tinfoil. seriously. You look ridiculous.
      Actually I wear this hat, and there's nothing ridiculous about it.

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      • Lair
        E30 Mastermind
        • Apr 2006
        • 1553

        #348
        Fuck it.

        I'm voting Green Party.

        McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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        • rwh11385
          lance_entities
          • Oct 2003
          • 18403

          #349
          Originally posted by Lair
          Does "surplus to RECORD DEFICIT" mean anything to you, or are you too stupid to make the connection? Bush tanked a surplus and turned it into the largest deficit in HISTORY.
          Da planes, da planes created deficit. Bush did his best to get the country going again.

          RECORD DEFICIT is just a number... without perspective it doesn't mean much. A $400B deficit today is much different than in 1960. It's like 3% of the GDP from what I just saw from the CBO. Do you throw all sense out the window when you sign up with the liberals?


          Discretionary spending as % of GDP is on the decline long term, including defense. The 9/11 bump still isn't bad compared to any time before 1992.

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          • Lair
            E30 Mastermind
            • Apr 2006
            • 1553

            #350
            Originally posted by rwh11385
            Da planes, da planes created deficit. Bush did his best to get the country going again.

            .

            Bush's best sucks ass.
            McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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            • rwh11385
              lance_entities
              • Oct 2003
              • 18403

              #351
              YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID!

              Mandatory spending: not under his control, and primarily concern for budget issues
              Discretionary spending: not that much higher compared to past decades, and following 9/11 some spending was necessary (domestic security, etc.)
              Tax rate cuts have helped the economy and increase revenues.

              Don't be mad there isn't some magic fucking wand like Obama promises to deal with the increasing costs to care for the nation's elderly, deal with the effects of globalization coming back to hurt us, and the GLOBAL economic hit in 2001.

              Average deficit since 1970 has been 2.3% of GDP. 3% isn't that bad. And unless someone FUCKS it up i.e. Obama by raising taxes and creating even more programs to spend, we should hopefully see surpluses soon.

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              • Lair
                E30 Mastermind
                • Apr 2006
                • 1553

                #352
                Now you're just being an asshole, and you still haven't explained how McCain is going to shrink the deficit while cutting taxes for the the rich and starting yet another war.
                McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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                • rwh11385
                  lance_entities
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 18403

                  #353
                  No, you're being the asshole because you are purposefully making moronic posts that ignore facts or information and attempt to show a complete lack of ability to comprehend economic principles.

                  you're a troll or got the short end of the genetic pool. go end yourself. I had fun discussing economics, but it's best to do with an intellectual equal, not someone who clearly failed econ in high school... and definitely did not chose to study advanced macro or international monetary economics in a post-secondary academic environment.

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                  • Lair
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 1553

                    #354
                    LMAO

                    Still no answer?

                    How will McCain shrink Dubya's enormous deficit while cuting taxes for the rich and starting yet another war?
                    McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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                    • Lair
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 1553

                      #355
                      I'm hoping for the best.

                      Maybe things will change.
                      McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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                      • Ral
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 1486

                        #356
                        Originally posted by Lair
                        I'm hoping for the best.

                        Maybe things will change.
                        Having taken a class on Hitler's rise to power, the similarities between the wave of optimism that Hitler generated then rode into office is strikingly similar to the wave Obama's generated for himself. (both presidents superceded incumbents who were blamed for terrible economic situations on the tail end of unpopular wars with untrustworthy cabinet members around him, and were seen as beacons of change and reform in the midst of political stagnation.)

                        And it sure turned out well for Zee Germans, didn't it?

                        I don't think Obama's gonna start sending white kids to concentration camps, but even still... be careful what you wish for. Before you vote for him, look behind what he's saying. Different is not always better, and change isn't always positive.
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                        • Lair
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 1553

                          #357
                          That was a reply to an rwh11883355 post that mysteriously disappeared.
















                          I hope Obama doesn't start rounding up Jews if he's elected.
                          McCain's military draft: Are you willing to bet your life?

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                          • Hallen
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 1008

                            #358
                            Originally posted by Lair
                            The republicans controlled Congress for 13 or 14 years. What grade were you in in 1993? 3rd?
                            Sorry, age doesn't matter here. Your argument opponents are providing you with facts, facts that back up their arguments. Their arguments are well constructed and logical. You're arguments seem to consist of "Oh Yeah?"

                            By accepting the news stories that you are accepting and puking out that "record deficit" crap which if you are really 48 years old, you should remember that crap being used by the Dems and liberals every time there has been a Republican President, you are basically identifying yourself as a liberal. If you are not a liberal, then go ahead and call yourself a progressive if it makes you feel better.

                            Oh, and for the record, I am 45 years old and I was serving my country while some of these young people were in diapers. I wasn't sitting around seeing who could suck down that killer pot bud in one breath and drinking bong water.

                            Less government is better government. Less regulations are better regulations. Fewer slack jawed liberals in control of this country will lead to a better country. It won't lead to a perfect country by any means because there are a lot of "conservative" politicians who are seriously corrupt and petty as well. All we can do is try and aim them in the correct general direction and stop trying to line our own pockets with government doles. Just let the economy work.

                            There are other more radical things we should do too with government involvement in the economy, but that will have to wait.
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                            • uofom3
                              R3V Elite
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 5392

                              #359
                              Originally posted by Hallen
                              Sorry, age doesn't matter here. Your argument opponents are providing you with facts, facts that back up their arguments. Their arguments are well constructed and logical. You're arguments seem to consist of "Oh Yeah?"
                              Exactly.

                              By accepting the news stories that you are accepting and puking out that "record deficit" crap which if you are really 48 years old, you should remember that crap being used by the Dems and liberals every time there has been a Republican President, you are basically identifying yourself as a liberal. If you are not a liberal, then go ahead and call yourself a progressive if it makes you feel better.
                              Progressive would be worse, but it's not going to be good wither way.

                              Oh, and for the record, I am 45 years old and I was serving my country while some of these young people were in diapers. I wasn't sitting around seeing who could suck down that killer pot bud in one breath and drinking bong water.
                              ZING!

                              Less government is better government. Less regulations are better regulations. Fewer slack jawed liberals in control of this country will lead to a better country. It won't lead to a perfect country by any means because there are a lot of "conservative" politicians who are seriously corrupt and petty as well. All we can do is try and aim them in the correct general direction and stop trying to line our own pockets with government doles. Just let the economy work.
                              preach on brother...

                              There are other more radical things we should do too with government involvement in the economy, but that will have to wait.
                              Elaborate further....
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                              • uofom3
                                R3V Elite
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 5392

                                #360
                                Originally posted by Lair
                                That was a reply to an rwh11883355 post that mysteriously disappeared.
















                                I hope Obama doesn't start rounding up Jews if he's elected.
                                It's all a big joke until he comes for you...

                                Don't worry, he's going to be too busy pushing for troops to be sent to Afghanistan. But I thought we didn't want to fight any more wars? .....
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