Sarah Palin's speech

[blunttech]

Did she talk about how her daughter is a whore and has a retarded kid??

thank you for saving me the effort needed to make you look like a total nozzle.
you have done so yourself. i would love to look in your families closet. i know i wouldnt want anyone looking in mine....
palin did a great job. its difficult for a women to rail on the other candidate and risks coming off like the cackling hag hillary. shes a great speaker and i look forward to the biden/palin debates. i believe she will gnaw the bag of ball right off of biden. if i were her family id be so proud of her. even though they are pregnant and retarded

[TDE30]

One liner digs that play well to the wingnut crowd are not the stuff great speeches are made of.

Bingo. Very well put.

[DarkWing6]

ragged325, please don't try and defend Obama's joke of a tax plan

[ragged325]

Don't worry, I'm going to work. If you want to argue about it, take it up with The Tax Policy Center.

[rwh11385]

ragged325, please don't try and defend Obama's joke of a tax plan

only it's not funny.

Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families:Barack Obama will enact a windfall profits tax on excessive oil company profits to give American families an immediate $1,000 emergency energy rebate to help families pay rising bills.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/

ROBIN HOOD!

Take from companies with only decent profit margins and a commodity with increased prices, and steal from them to give a transfer payments. Great.

And what is going to happen when oil companies take a hit? Higher pump prices (hurting families) or cut jobs.

Who is stupid enough to be in support of this?

Oh yeah, uneducated lower to middle class Americans who like the BRIBES Obama is offering.

[nando]

you know what else a "windfall tax" causes?

Right now, the oil companies are taking those "windfall profits" and investing BILLIONS into R&D, cleaner refining, exploration, refinery capacity upgrades, refinery environmental upgrades, refining "cruddy" oil stocks (the stuff that sells for $40-50 a barrel, rather than "light sweet" which is over $100), etc. etc.

if the government takes that money, it will get wasted on pork and other shennanigans (a $1000 "rebate"? WTF, do we live in venezuala?). And 10 years from now, after we *need* those upgrades to refining and exploration, we won't have them because the government decided the "bad" oil companies were too sucessful.

And actually, that's exactly what happened before - when oil prices were in the dumps (under $20 a barrel), exploration and refining upgrades were flat. Why invest in the future when there's nothing to gain from it? The result is we are WAY behind on both fronts, and the recent "windfall" has just given them the ability to catch up. It's also contributed to higher prices at the pump today.

Essentially what I'm saying is - if they end up taxing the oil companies for a "windfall", I hope you like $10 a gallon gas - because that is exactly what will happen.

[rwh11385]

No man, you don't get HOPE man!

Obama wants to help Americans by rewarding them for nothing, punishing companies for having a product delivered at reasonable profit that is in high need, making America more uncompetitive for companies or jobs, reducing or removing incentive to work harder, and driving up unemployment and prices all while telling them it's going to be better if they HOPE.

[DarkWing6]

Don't worry, I'm going to work. If you want to argue about it, take it up with The Tax Policy Center.

I don't want to get into it, but think about this.

If you take money from the businesses (less tax cuts and higher taxes) and cut taxes for the middle class and poor you are saying this will increase the income of middle class and poor by 5%, right?

Have you thought about the reaction of the businesses when you cut their profit margins by increasing their taxes? I'm sure prices will rise by at least 5%. Now your middle class and poor are losing money. Good call man.

Edit - Oh ya, they will start cutting some of those lower income jobs too. BTW - That is a 100% decrease in pay.

[Dave]

I really wonder what McCain is thinking right now . . .

i don't think this guy (below) is alone.

Eight months ago, I was a registered Republican, standing in a cold room in Iowa supporting Ron Paul in the Iowa caucuses. For most of my life, I've been a believer in small government and individual liberties, the ideals that, according to what I learned in high school civics, the Republican Party stood for. I voted Libertarian in 2004, simply because I felt that the Libertarian candidate seemed to best voice those ideals at the time.

As I stood in that cold caucus room, I listened to several people stand up and talk about their candidate. For the most part, instead of giving me compelling reasons to vote for that candidate, each stump speaker (aside from the bubbly young woman who spoke about Ron Paul) spent their time not talking up their own candidate, but hurling shovels of specific insults at the people in the Democratic caucus in an adjacent building. I didn't learn much about Mike Huckabee or Mitt Romney or John McCain, but I did hear a lot of talk about the negative character, poor experience, and profound ignorance of the primary Democratic candidates, Obama, Edwards, and Clinton.

Over the next several months, as the campaign season went along, I started actually opening my ears and listening to talk radio a bit. Previously, I would just listen to music in my truck during my commute, but I started tuning into a pair of local talk radio stations, which aired programs by Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and the like.

And I was deeply disturbed. Instead of hearing compelling arguments for why John McCain was the right man for the job, I would hear three nonstop hours of insults levied toward Barack Obama, much of it not directly aimed towards him, but intended to serve as character assassination by association. Breathless stories about his pastor, Reverend Wright, and a guest pastor at his church, David Pfleiger. Amazing tales about William Ayers.

Very rarely did I hear a word about policy, and when I did, it was usually just deriding a specific plank of Obama's plan.

After a month of listening to a large daily dose of talk radio, I learned virtually nothing about what John McCain actually planned to do for this country.

What I did hear, though, is a lot of supposedly negative things about Barack Obama, most of which seemed nonsensical and completely frivolous compared to the problems of this nation. The worst, for me, was repeated harpings on the idea that Barack Obama was somehow "bad" because he was a community organizer.

I know what community organizers do. I have friends and family who are involved with social work and community organization. They register people to vote. They get people involved with the political process. They know the real, day-to-day problems of the people in their community like the back of their hand. They help people with their life problems, helping elderly folks keep the lights on and helping groups with a significant problem get organized enough to get the attention of an alderman or city hall. The people on the ground, the "community organizers" and very local politicians, do a ton of good work for the people of this country. And through that process, they gain a deep understanding of the real problems and thoughts of everyday people.

That brings us to last night. Until last night, I was slightly leaning towards Obama, but I hadn't firmly decided who I was voting for. I held out hope that during the Convention, I could get a real grasp on where the Republican Party was.

Last night, Sarah Palin gave a speech that was in theory meant to get people like me excited about the Republican ticket. This was one that should have gotten me back on board and excited about the McCain/Palin platform.

Instead, it sickened me in a very deep and personal way.

I could go through some of the quotes that made my stomach turn, but many others have already done a great analysis of the speech.

All I heard was a long stream of extremely bitter attacks against Barack Obama, none of which go even the slightest step towards solving the problems of this country. When I tuned in, Rudy Giuliani was firing off some attacks, but I expected that - every convention has some room for criticism of the opposition.

But Palin's speech was obviously meant to be the centerpiece, the real statement about the direction of the Republican party.

And I heard absolutely nothing about their plans for the future.

All I heard was a long, long stream of pointless attacks against Barack Obama, the Democratic Party in general, and the media.

No solutions. No real content. No anything.

There was one line at the end that really twisted things for me.

"Al Qaeda terrorists still plot to inflict catastrophic harm on America ... he's worried that someone won't read them their rights?"

Every single human being has the right to a fair trial and to be treated humanely by their captors. John McCain, of all people, should understand this. He was a prisoner of war.

On the one fundamental issue that his entire campaign is centered around - the character-building experience of his POW stint - he gets it wrong.

America cannot be a shining beacon of light in the world when we condone policies of treating our enemies with the same standards as the Viet Cong treated their enemies.

Every criminal, no matter how heinous their crimes, deserves humane treatment and a fair and expedient trial. Period. That is a fundamental human right.

When you're giving the central speech of your party's convention, to make a joke out of it makes a joke out of me. Not just as a (former) Republican, but as an American.

This morning, I donated $250 to Barack Obama's campaign. Tomorrow, I'm stopping by the voter registration office to change my party affiliation to Democrat. Saturday, I hope to plant an Obama-Biden sign in my front yard.

This lack of respect for your political opponents, this denial of basic human rights to those who oppose us, this complete emptiness of policy - it ends. Right here, right now.

[E30 Cabrio]

God damn dude, did you take it personal enough? Calling someone a retard has no correlation with being a democrat or republican... That's awesome your friend is a bad ass and shit. You sound like that fucking cro-crop kid. :roll:

Yes, I take it personal when some punk takes low cheap shots at infants that are born handicapped, especially when I have a close friend who has put his life on the line for this country so idiots like the above poster can spew ignorant, hateful stupidity.

But I guess it takes a real man to sit behind a keyboard and make fun of mentally handicapped infants.

The Palin pick has caused many on the left to become completely unhinged.

[The Barvarian]

Hmmmmm......

i have way better uses for her mouth

milf???

[DarkWing6]

I really wonder what McCain is thinking right now . . .

i don't think this guy (below) is alone.

People need to listen a little more clearly becasue she did go beyond her playful jabs and talk about what her plans were for doing it. Also, wait for the debates to get some real substance.

[E30 Cabrio]

I really wonder what McCain is thinking right now . . .

i don't think this guy (below) is alone.

"While you could say a lot of things about Sarah Palin's screed of an acceptance speech, it would suffice to simply note that it's pretty damn rich for John McCain to dispatch a secessionist to criticize any American's patriotism."

You are aware that the New York Times was disproved and that they printed a retraction, right?

Palin never belonged to the Alaska Independence Party. She has been a registered Republican since 1982

Damn those pesky facts.

[E30 Cabrio]

milf???

gilf

[Dave]

"While you could say a lot of things about Sarah Palin's screed of an acceptance speech, it would suffice to simply note that it's pretty damn rich for John McCain to dispatch a secessionist to criticize any American's patriotism."

You are aware that the New York Times was disproved and that they printed a retraction, right?

Palin never belonged to the Alaska Independence Party. She has been a registered Republican since 1982

Damn those pesky facts.

Oh, my bad. She only attended their conventions, video addressed their most recent one, and her husband was a long time member switching to "undeclared" only when she decided to run for state wide office.

DAMN THOSE PESKY FACTS!