Sarah Palin's speech

[nando]

what are you talking about?

I think he's lair's brother.

[DarkWing6]

what are you talking about?

[ragged325]

What you wrote:

My grandpa has a great quote, "Do something even if it is wrong."

Palin spent money on things for the people. While the sports complex didn't work out as she had hopped it was an attempt at something good. It may not be a profit generator, but I'm sure it has benefitted the community (probably also created local jobs while being built). On top of that, I'd take a little city debt if they would fix my roads now and not in 5-7 years. Either way, at least she was doing something. Oh ya, the citizens of Alaska seem to like her. That probably speaks for something, eh?

Better than Obama that sat and voted present....when he was there.

What I read:

I don't have a problem with her being a psychopathic liar. It's not even worth mentioning. It's not like she's lying to me, it's like she's lying for me.

[DarkWing6]

My grandpa has a great quote, "Do something even if it is wrong."

Palin spent money on things for the people. While the sports complex didn't work out as she had hopped it was an attempt at something good. It may not be a profit generator, but I'm sure it has benefitted the community (probably also created local jobs while being built). On top of that, I'd take a little city debt if they would fix my roads now and not in 5-7 years. Either way, at least she was doing something. Oh ya, the citizens of Alaska seem to like her. That probably speaks for something, eh?

Better than Obama that sat and voted present....when he was there.

[ragged325]

During her mayoral administration, most of the actual work of running this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings, which had given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative." During her six years as mayor, she increased general government expenditures by more than 33 percent. During those same six years, the amount of taxes collected by the city increased by 38 percent. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax, which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefitted large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenue during her mayoral administration weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list, though — borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt but left it with indebtedness of more than $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? Or a new library? No. $1 million for a park. $15 million-plus for construction of a multi-use sports complex, which she rushed through, on a piece of property that the city didn't even have clear title to. That was still in litigation seven years later — to the delight of the lawyers involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5 million for road projects that could have been done in five to seven years without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341

My thing is that people supposedly like her because she is a fiscal and a social conservative. It's apparent that instead of being a fiscal conservative she is a complete liar. Which begs the question, what do you like about her? The only thing left to like about her is that she is going to try to promote her religious views.

[BobombETA]

HERE YA GO:

What you have to believe to be a Democrat or Republican by Darian Worden

Inspired by “To be a liberal you have to believe” jokes that I’ve seen floating around in various forms over the years, I have decided to make a list of things you have to believe to be a Democrat or Republican. The first Democrat item on the list is knowingly plagiarized from a liberal beliefs list – I just had to include it because I think it sums up the left leaning statist outlook so well. The rest I am pretty sure I thought up on my own but someone else has probably said something at least similar to most of them. Anyway, enjoy! To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the HIV virus is spread by a lack of federal funding
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that terrorism and hatred towards America are spread by a lack of US Military occupations
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that anyone who disagrees with you is either a) a right wing fundamentalist who listens to too much talk radio, b) a heartless conservative who wants everyone to make $2 and hour, or c) a stupid redneck who beats his wife and owns too many guns
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that anyone who disagrees with you is either a) a tree-hugging liberal hippie pot smoker who hates America, b) a God-hating liberal weenie who is too overrun with estrogen to understand simple logic such as “A is B when Republicans say it is,” or c) a terrorist
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the best way to protect the environment is to put it under control of distant bureaucrats who work for the biggest polluter in the nation (that’s the US government, for those of you who haven’t yet figured out how evil it is)
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that the best way to secure liberty is to put every citizen under control of distant bureaucrats and armed thugs with badges
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the party that runs a presidential candidate who voted for the Iraq war and said he’d do it again, is home to proponents of military draft and compulsory “national service,” and is historically known for putting warmongers like Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Bill Clinton in office, is the best hope for peace because it is not the Republican Party
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that a party that has only increased government power, spending, and deficits while in control of both houses of Congress and the White House is the best hope for economic freedom because George Bush says the words “freedom” and “ownership” a lot
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the best way to help the poor is to cut off the bottom few rungs of the economic ladder
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that the best way to help the poor is to have the government give more of their money to the rich
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
despite vast volumes of evidence to the contrary, business regulations and welfare codes written by rich people really do benefit the poor
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
despite vast volumes of evidence to the contrary, perpetual warfare can be waged by a limited, non-intrusive government
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that speech codes, harassment lawsuits, brainwashing, and coercion are legitimate ways to bring tolerance and understanding among people
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that vigorously enforcing the multitude of unconstitutional gun control laws on the books is a legitimate method of opposing gun control
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that people who don’t believe fundamental laws of economics should be put in charge of writing all economic policy that the entire country must abide by
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that people who don’t believe fundamental tenets of science should be in charge of writing all science text books that the entire country must use
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that banning cheap guns so poor people can’t protect themselves as easily is “progressive”
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that violating the Constitution so innocent people are not protected by the law is “patriotic”
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that any argument on economics can be won simply by using buzzwords like “outsourcing,” “exploitation,” “capitalists,” “fair trade,” and “corporations”
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that any argument on foreign policy can be won simply by using buzzwords like “homeland,” “terror,” “freedom,” “weapons of mass destruction,” and “Al-Qaeda”
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that war is waged for good intentions when done by a Democratic president
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that welfare-statism is done for economic well-being when it is done by a Republican president
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the Great Depression ended because Franklin Roosevelt was a courageous leader who dared to spend a lot of other people’s money, and not because of more favorable economic conditions following the Second World War
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that the USSR fell because Ronald Reagan was a courageous leader who dared to spend a lot of other people’s money, and not because communism and empire don’t work

haha, nice.

[funcrew]

I guess it's our own different rose colored glasses . . .

I saw her as just that - fake. Polished, a good speaker, energetic, but full of shit.

Doesn't that define "politician" regardless of party affiliation?

[funcrew]

Will someone please tell me the difference between democrats and republicans without quoting the dictionary which does not offer a decent explanation. How can one know which he or she is?

HERE YA GO:

What you have to believe to be a Democrat or Republican by Darian Worden

Inspired by “To be a liberal you have to believe” jokes that I’ve seen floating around in various forms over the years, I have decided to make a list of things you have to believe to be a Democrat or Republican. The first Democrat item on the list is knowingly plagiarized from a liberal beliefs list – I just had to include it because I think it sums up the left leaning statist outlook so well. The rest I am pretty sure I thought up on my own but someone else has probably said something at least similar to most of them. Anyway, enjoy! To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the HIV virus is spread by a lack of federal funding
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that terrorism and hatred towards America are spread by a lack of US Military occupations
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that anyone who disagrees with you is either a) a right wing fundamentalist who listens to too much talk radio, b) a heartless conservative who wants everyone to make $2 and hour, or c) a stupid redneck who beats his wife and owns too many guns
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that anyone who disagrees with you is either a) a tree-hugging liberal hippie pot smoker who hates America, b) a God-hating liberal weenie who is too overrun with estrogen to understand simple logic such as “A is B when Republicans say it is,” or c) a terrorist
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the best way to protect the environment is to put it under control of distant bureaucrats who work for the biggest polluter in the nation (that’s the US government, for those of you who haven’t yet figured out how evil it is)
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that the best way to secure liberty is to put every citizen under control of distant bureaucrats and armed thugs with badges
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the party that runs a presidential candidate who voted for the Iraq war and said he’d do it again, is home to proponents of military draft and compulsory “national service,” and is historically known for putting warmongers like Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, and Bill Clinton in office, is the best hope for peace because it is not the Republican Party
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that a party that has only increased government power, spending, and deficits while in control of both houses of Congress and the White House is the best hope for economic freedom because George Bush says the words “freedom” and “ownership” a lot
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the best way to help the poor is to cut off the bottom few rungs of the economic ladder
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that the best way to help the poor is to have the government give more of their money to the rich
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
despite vast volumes of evidence to the contrary, business regulations and welfare codes written by rich people really do benefit the poor
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
despite vast volumes of evidence to the contrary, perpetual warfare can be waged by a limited, non-intrusive government
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that speech codes, harassment lawsuits, brainwashing, and coercion are legitimate ways to bring tolerance and understanding among people
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that vigorously enforcing the multitude of unconstitutional gun control laws on the books is a legitimate method of opposing gun control
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that people who don’t believe fundamental laws of economics should be put in charge of writing all economic policy that the entire country must abide by
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that people who don’t believe fundamental tenets of science should be in charge of writing all science text books that the entire country must use
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that banning cheap guns so poor people can’t protect themselves as easily is “progressive”
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that violating the Constitution so innocent people are not protected by the law is “patriotic”
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that any argument on economics can be won simply by using buzzwords like “outsourcing,” “exploitation,” “capitalists,” “fair trade,” and “corporations”
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that any argument on foreign policy can be won simply by using buzzwords like “homeland,” “terror,” “freedom,” “weapons of mass destruction,” and “Al-Qaeda”
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that war is waged for good intentions when done by a Democratic president
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that welfare-statism is done for economic well-being when it is done by a Republican president
To be a DEMOCRAT you have to believe
that the Great Depression ended because Franklin Roosevelt was a courageous leader who dared to spend a lot of other people’s money, and not because of more favorable economic conditions following the Second World War
To be a REPUBLICAN you have to believe
that the USSR fell because Ronald Reagan was a courageous leader who dared to spend a lot of other people’s money, and not because communism and empire don’t work

[Turf1600]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

[Rustyduktape]

haha, i thought this thread was just gonna die off in like a few minutes.

[Vedubin01]

see even your insults are getting better man! ;)
now i feel hurt! lol!:roll: i think you should kiss it and make it better!

Sad thing is you living in San Fran you might like that way too much!

[Pinepig]

God.

Just shut up.

your just digging yourself a bigger whole.

Fixed that for ya.

[Pinepig]

durrrr

I gotta admit, I LOLed


Water sucks it really really sucks.

[rwh11385]

see. was that so hard? that was good man! i would just get rid of the direct personal attacks (in blue). also you miss spelled 'inteligent'. it's intelligent. you should write like that more of the time! i mean it to. good shit! see now that gives me something to think about and will maybe make me change my mind about some of my view points. it won't drive me away and make me think all republicans are ass holes. keep it up!

so you know how to spell intelligent... this post? I quoted it and bolded where you misspelled it twice and mocked you by spelling it just like you in quotes.

you're not too bright are you?

[Danny]

God.

Just shut up.

You're just digging yourself a bigger hole.