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    #46
    Originally posted by Pinepig View Post
    I think if you took those blinders off for a second you might find a few of them heavily tied to the democrats.
    fanny and freddy anyone?
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      #47
      Weee doggy. Its really hard to say. Obama's speaks, and carries himself very well. Bu it kinda seems he just tells us what we want to hear. Aiming towards the middle class knowing thats ultimatley the majority of vote.

      Mccain has alot more credibilty IMO, but comes off as a bitter old man while being compared to the current situation with Bush.

      All said and done, even though I felt Obama won the debate (if there is such a thing).. Middle America is just too big. Mccain will pull it off.
      -Jay

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        #48
        Originally posted by uofom3 View Post
        fanny and freddy anyone?
        Senator Dodd and Obama are the two single largest payees from Fannie/Freddie. The fucked up thing is that Dodd is at the forefront of writing the whole bailout. Looks like Obama's plan for "oversight in the bailout" is really working.

        These two fucks milked Fannie and Freddie, and when they write this thing, they're probably coming back for seconds. Its disgusting, and its at the taxpayer's expense.

        *edit*

        "Fannie Mae is the mortgage backer that was essentially a government-owned corporation and now is in receivership. It's reported that Fannie Mae made significant contributions to politicians, the top five being Democrats. And whose name is third on the list? Barack Obama -- behind only Chris Dodd and John Kerry. Obama received $105,000 in two years."

        IMO, none of these three should have anything to do with the bailout legislation.

        Quoted from Indystar.com
        Last edited by Money$hit; 09-27-2008, 04:46 PM.

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          #49
          Originally posted by Charlie View Post
          Middle America is going to have a very hard time voting for a black guy named "Barack Hussein Obama".

          Just prodding that 800 lb gorilla.

          -Charlie
          but they have no problem voting for someone that really should still be the president of her local PTA? that is being shielded from the media more then any person in politics in history. they wont let reporters talk to her because shes a fraud and cant talk beyond her prepared statements.

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            #50
            MCCAIN'S FREDDIE MAC LOBBYIST.... Honestly, I have no idea what the McCain campaign was thinking.

            The lobbying firm of the man Republicans say John McCain has chosen to begin planning a presidential transition earned more than a quarter of a million dollars this year representing Freddie Mac, one of the companies McCain blames for the nation's financial crisis.

            Timmons & Co., whose founder and chairman emeritus is William Timmons Sr., was registered to lobby for Freddie Mac from 2000 through this month, when the federal government took over both Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

            Newly available congressional records show Timmons's firm received $260,000 this year before its lobbying activities were barred under terms of the government rescue of the failed mortgage giant. Timmons, 77, is listed as a lobbyist for Freddie Mac on the company's midyear financial-disclosure form.

            John McCain personally spent most of last week railing against Barack Obama's associations with former Fannie Mae officials were extremely important, worthy of attack ads and overheated speeches. At one point, about a week ago, McCain told CBS, "[T]he influence that Fannie and Freddie had in the inside-the-beltway, old-boy network, which led to this kind of corruption is unacceptable." Soon after, he told a Wisconsin audience, "At the center of the problem were the lobbyists, politicians, and bureaucrats who succeeded in persuading Congress and the administration to ignore the festering problems at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."

            This, after McCain had tapped Freddie Mac's lobbyist to head his presidential transition team? And after he tapped a former Fannie Mae lobbyist as his campaign manager? Seriously?

            By this standard, McCain probably should feel compelled to vote against himself.

            Or, as Josh Marshall concluded, "I expect a lot of hypocrisy of all politicians, of both parties. But John McCain is really in a class of his own."


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              #51
              Originally posted by DarkWing6 View Post
              I like the double standard. Anything that happened during the Bush administration is all Bush's fault. Anything that happened during the Clinton administration was actually Congress.
              Ain't that a bitch?

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                #52
                Originally posted by BMWDriver View Post
                but they have no problem voting for someone that really should still be the president of her local PTA? that is being shielded from the media more then any person in politics in history. they wont let reporters talk to her because shes a fraud and cant talk beyond her prepared statements.
                last time i checked, she wasn't running for president.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by ragged325 View Post
                  http://docs.google.com/TeamPresent?d...uth=true&pli=1

                  This powerpoint slide show explains what caused the credit crunch and who is to blame.
                  awesome.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Aptyp View Post
                    Has anyone seen Obama's parents anywhere around the campaign? I haven't, and I will never vote for a person who is ashamed of his roots. Talk is cheap.
                    i dont think he is ashamed of his roots. in the debate he told the story about his dad coming over to the us from kenya and that is where he got his name from.
                    Originally posted by Ferdinand
                    I carry a cheap pressure gauge in my glovebox with which to manually check my tire pressures, but I keep forgetting that in the USA glovebox space is sacred as it is reserved exclusively for the purpose of storing handguns.

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                      #55
                      I'm not a big fan of politics.
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by rwh11385 View Post
                        Good luck with that. Americans' fingers go pointing at anything except back at themselves.
                        Originally posted by ragged325 View Post
                        http://docs.google.com/TeamPresent?d...uth=true&pli=1

                        This powerpoint slide show explains what caused the credit crunch and who is to blame.
                        Originally posted by rwh11385 View Post
                        awesome.
                        So do you still think we should blame the people who took out the home loans for the $700 billion bailout?
                        Last edited by ragged325; 09-28-2008, 10:21 AM.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by ragged325 View Post
                          So do you still think we should blame the people who took out the home loans for the $700 billion bailout?
                          They played a key role, did they not?
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                            #58
                            Chuck Baldwin/Bob Barr/Ralph Nader 2008
                            Who doesn't love a little BBQ?
                            Griot's Garage at a Deep Discount

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by ragged325 View Post
                              So do you still think we should blame the people who took out the home loans for the $700 billion bailout?

                              Its all George Bush's fault.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by ragged325 View Post
                                So do you still think we should blame the people who took out the home loans for the $700 billion bailout?
                                Are you saying we shouldn't hold them to blame at all?

                                People make bad decisions and we should reward them with a handout? Good idea there Obama

                                Oh no, don't worry about years of smoking and eating fast food everyday... the government health care plan will take the money of the hard-working people who took care of themselves to pay to keep you going.

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