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[iamsam]

naatumsayin?

[DCColegrove]

I would like to thank George Graves fo giving me eye strain...

and leave this thread with a quote from the Clash:

You have the right to free speech... Provided that you are not actually dumb enough to try it.

[E30 Wagen]

I personally wouldn't mind living in a society where everybody is more mindful of the resources they consume and the waste that is produced. If everybody can agree that we need to minimize both of those things and will actually take the initiative to stop some bad habits, our country will be much better off and we all know it. And any "but it takes away my freedom to be a fat fucking consumer because it's my 'right' to as an American tax payer" WHINING BULLSHIT can and will be shot down. Fuck you people. All you're doing is giving your money to South America and Asia and perpetuating America's reputation as a nation of senseless consumers who will buy anything.

Wake up people, America is like a generation behind Europe and Japan. Our public school systems are failing, less people are able to afford higher education, we still drive gas guzzlers, we have yet to fully embrace the possibilites of alternative energies, half the nation isn't getting health care, clinical depression continues to be a nationwide problem, high divorce rates, the list goes on.

Stop bitching about your precious guns. If somebody points a gun in your face, give him whatever he wants, then call the fucking police. Don't be a fucking hero and then end up murdering somebody yourself.

[CorvallisBMW]

Hey, FUCKING GET OVER IT.

He won, fair and square. No amount of right-wing propaganda and character assassination is going to change that. So STFU and leave your KKK chain email rumors out of a car forum.

Or did you forget about all of that "He's our president and we should support him no matter what" bullshit that you conservatives were spouting off 6 years ago?

[Money$hit]

Assault weapons are terrible home defense weapons.

Spray and pray brotha..

[speedhop]

Corvallis wtf are you talking about?

[RCWells]

Stop bitching about your precious guns. If somebody points a gun in your face, give him whatever he wants, then call the fucking police. Don't be a fucking hero and then end up murdering somebody yourself.

A victim's mentality as well as one who is totally dependent on someone else to take care of one's self. My RIGHTS granted by the Constitution that my brother fights for even now in Iraq are what is precious to me. The right and the ability to defend myself and my family is what is precious to me.

Still yet not ONE liberal minded individual that would have those rights taken from me has answered my question.

[mrsleeve]

some of you may get this better when, you

A. grow up and see things for how they really are and your idealistic view of how the world should be is a fantasy land.

OR

B. Get out of mommy an daddys house, an get out of college and get a real job an have to pay for your life an support a family, then to see how your elected officials want to take more of the money you earned to support the lazy POS's that dont want to get a job or provide for them selves. Only to see these people at the store buying 50 bucks at a time of scratch offs and power balls, 40's an other shit that is not what that money is intended for.

Do I need to continue


edit:RC that last post was right on the money

edit #2: Corvallis if that was directed at my post of the magic Negro's voting records an on the record statements, FUCK YOU you have no clue, ever hear the term; actions speak louder that words????????? His words about being pro 2A are just that words, his actions of constantly voting against the 2a, and mine an your constitutional rights say more about him than anything hes said in his run to the election. Just because you dont partake in using all the rights guaranteed to you by the US Constitution dose not mean the rest of dont.

[Nicademus]

If I had your entire family tied up and was killing one of them every minute and you were tied up but had one free had with a loaded gun in reach would you use it on me? or would you try to talk me out of what I was doing because you didn't want to stoop to my level? I'm just curious; and yes this is hypothetical and far fetched.

some of you may get this better when, you

A. grow up and see things for how they really are and your idealistic view of how the world should be is a fantasy land.

OR

B. Get out of mommy an daddys house, an get out of college and get a real job an have to pay for your life an support a family, then to see how your elected officials want to take more of the money you earned to support the lazy POS's that dont want to get a job or provide for them selves. Only to see these people at the store buying 50 bucks at a time of scratch offs and power balls, 40's an other shit that is not what that money is intended for.

Do I need to continue


edit:RC that last post was right on the money

Agreed :D

[Aptyp]

doesn't word liberal derive from liberty?


Because if it does, democrats are not liberals. They need to find a new name for themselves.

[nando]

there's a little hope for his economic policies:

[President Elect Obama] met with some members of a 17-member panel today that includes Warren Buffett, former Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman William Donaldson, Eric Schmidt of Google Inc. (Symbol : GOOG) and Robert Rubin, a former Treasury secretary and now senior counselor to Citigroup Inc. (Symbol : C) .

translation: he may be willing to listen to people who have an idea of how business works. This is just what president Clinton did - he hired the best people to run the economy and left them alone. We may still be in for an ass pounding though with all the spending increases.

and corvallis, what's your issue? everyone who doesn't like some of the things Obama has said is part of the KKK? Huh?

[CorvallisBMW]

Corvallis wtf are you talking about?

and corvallis, what's your issue? everyone who doesn't like some of the things Obama has said is part of the KKK? Huh?

I'm talking about Vedubin and other spreading false rumors about how Obama is going to "Take away your guns" and other shit like that. He's stated over and over that he supports the 2nd amendment and the right to own guns. So why are they spreading lies and falsehoods?

[mrsleeve]

shit do I spy a hippie in our ranks???????????????

E30WAGON are you a hippie, because you sound like a hippie

[mrsleeve]

Let's look at the facts:

Europe: Way fewer guns, way less crime.

America: Way more guns, way more crime.

Coincidence?

You can bitch about you're 'right' to own an M16 all you want, but what good is that right if you're dead?

where the hell are you getting you info??????????? you cant be serious can you?????????? your not really are you?????????????????????

If you think Europe is so great you are welcome to leave this great country at any time you wish dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.



Lies an false hoods YOU NEED YOU HEAD CHECKED My post is his actual voting records form the US an IL senate you really need to learn to read

[Money$hit]

I'm talking about Vedubin and other spreading false rumors about how Obama is going to "Take away your guns" and other shit like that. He's stated over and over that he supports the 2nd amendment and the right to own guns. So why are they spreading lies and falsehoods?


Just something to think about:

Europe: Way fewer guns, way less crime.

America: Way more guns, way more crime.

Coincidence?

You can bitch about you're 'right' to own an M16 all you want, but what good is that right if you're dead because some idiot went to a gun store, bought an automatic weapon, and started spraying?

You can argue alot of things in this world as an American.

The constitiution is not one of them.