A True American!

[Kilomph]

I voted for:


And so did all of my relatives. I'll watch the video, didn't have time earlier.

[Collin]

who gives a fuck?

the law

[Schniddy]

the law

I never typed that?

and incase you missed this post:

The constitution prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, as well as self-incrimination. (Amendment IV and Miranda v. Arizona) respectively. checkpoints are constitutional, as Article IV, section 4 points out: "[...] and shall protect each of them from invasion". You might not agree with this, but the courts would uphold the existence of roadblocks as being necessary to secure our borders. Also, did you ever think that perhaps this road is known to be used by illegal traffickers? 40 miles is not really that far from the border. He is not questioned in a quest for evidence, nor is he accused of any wrongdoing. It's not any different than a police officer asking if you've been drinking when he pulls you over.

Also, he is not initially being detained. the agent is trying to determine if he is a United States citizen. When he refuses to comply, he is then outside the law and is detained until his citizenship can be established. Technically, he could be arrested for obstruction of Justice, so I think he got off easily. One of the Reserve instructor pilots here in Corpus is a Border Patrol helicopter pilot in Laredo, TX who takes fire while flying in support of the Border Patrol. What point is this guy trying to prove again?

And, before you complain about something being unconstitutional, read the constitution. If you're gonna argue something, at least know what you're arguing about.

There you go, this has been restated a few times in this thread. I'm trying to help you out. If we can't get through to you on simple issues, how can we go forth and start talking about the Nazi philosophy and how THAT is going to be taking away our constitutional rights?

Yes, there is videos out there of Senator Obama talking about how today is so much like pre-Nazi Germany (this was early in the decade) and he wasn't opposing this, by the way.

[LEANE30]

As much as i hate what illegals are doing and their effects on our system, they should be stopped AT THE BORDER, not internally scanned for by harassing law-abiding US citizens. they should be prevented from A) Entering the country to begin with, B) find housing, and C) being employed

what if someone said "yes, i am a citizen"? How would they confirm the person is not lying? personally, i don't like the fact that i even have to carry around a fucking license or ID, what will they ask for? your birth certificate? your Papers?

all new cars should be activated by your license, fuck having a car key. the possibilities would be much more positive than randomly intruding on people's daily activities to "just check" when there is no probable cause for it... besides the national crisis due to the stresses we burden for all the illegals and identity theft & fraud.

the guy is a fuck. not answering questions by law enforcement officers is a great way to start something, which this fuck obviously was trying to do. anyone that has to deal with the public has to deal with assholes, just like this guy.

if i was the law, i'd have this guy out of his car and face down on the ground.

how about answering the fucking question you moron?

and also, if i knew this guy as an asshole from him coming around before and busting my chops, i'd make sure he got the full treatment everytime. what an fuckup. he wants to start something, let's go asswipe.

fuck him

people exactly like you ARE what is wrong with this country and the reason for its so many flaws.

An officer OF THE LAW is NOT the "Law"

people like you should be sterilized.

major fail

you do not have any "right" to not answer the law dickhead. it is their authority to question you. not answering is a great way to get detained.
next time you get pulled over by the law, let's see you play big man then.

there is obstruction of justice, but self-incrimination is prohibited by the 5th you worthless inbred

[nando]

i've probably been through the border more times than everyone in this thread combined.

most border agents are in fact, not assholes. they are working a job like everyone else. It's really easy to get through without being harrassed. There are two rules to follow: Be friendly towards them, and never answer their questions with "I don't know".

I have never been searched by US border guards but I have been stopped several times in Canada. Either way I wasn't smuggling crack across the border so it was merely an inconvienence. This asshole was just asking for trouble, and I'm sure he got what he was looking for.

The friendliest border guard I ever met was a big scary looking dude with a satan goatee and tatoos everywhere. He once stopped me and asked me to pop my hood.. I was a little freaked until I realized he just wanted to BS about cars. I could have been an asshole though and would have received an anal pounding instead but I have better things to do than get attention from stupid kids on the internet.

[LEANE30]

I voted for:


And so did all of my relatives. I'll watch the video, didn't have time earlier.

your family did realize that he withdrew his candidacy and supported Chuck Baldwin on the Constitutional Party ticket right?

[Kilomph]

i've probably been through the border more times than everyone in this thread combined.

most border agents are in fact, not assholes. they are working a job like everyone else. It's really easy to get through without being harrassed. There are two rules to follow: Be friendly towards them, and never answer their questions with "I don't know".

I have never been searched by US border guards but I have been stopped several times in Canada. Either way I wasn't smuggling crack across the border so it was merely an inconvienence. This asshole was just asking for trouble, and I'm sure he got what he was looking for.

The friendliest border guard I ever met was a big scary looking dude with a satan goatee and tatoos everywhere. He once stopped me and asked me to pop my hood.. I was a little freaked until I realized he just wanted to BS about cars. I could have been an asshole though and would have received an anal pounding instead but I have better things to do than get attention from stupid kids on the internet.

How is that relevant? Border Agents are very much needed. Wannabe B.Agents within America ARE NOT.

And yes, I know Ron Paul withdrew. I'd rather not be forced to vote for the lesser of two evils.

[EN318isPDX]

I want to know if "Agent Sodo" is an American citizen.. didn't sound very American to me

[delatlanta1281]

what?
What makes you say that. I have a friend with an english accent who is an american citzen. Think before you make stupid comments.

[gwb72tii]

As much as i hate what illegals are doing and their effects on our system, they should be stopped AT THE BORDER, not internally scanned for by harassing law-abiding US citizens. they should be prevented from A) Entering the country to begin with, B) find housing, and C) being employed

what if someone said "yes, i am a citizen"? How would they confirm the person is not lying? personally, i don't like the fact that i even have to carry around a fucking license or ID, what will they ask for? your birth certificate? your Papers?

all new cars should be activated by your license, fuck having a car key. the possibilities would be much more positive than randomly intruding on people's daily activities to "just check" when there is no probable cause for it... besides the national crisis due to the stresses we burden for all the illegals and identity theft & fraud.




people exactly like you ARE what is wrong with this country and the reason for its so many flaws.

An officer OF THE LAW is NOT the "Law"

people like you should be sterilized.






there is obstruction of justice, but self-incrimination is prohibited by the 5th you worthless inbred

oh boy, another idiot removing any doubt just how ignorant he is

get a clue

self incrimination, taking the 5th is AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN ARRESTED, as is the right to remain silent and have an attorney present during questioning.

how about studying the constitution before you go off and make yourself look stupid again, eh?

as far as stopping them at the borders, what, do you think they come over on the highways? just how many border patrols would it take to patrol the open border? you'd probably come up with some other wacko ACLU leftist shit like the drivel you wrote above.

again, and imagine i'm saying this slowly for just you, you do not have any right to not answer questions by the law enforcement officers without being arrested, capiche? no answer, get arrested. why is this so hard?

now if you decide to play asswipe as the the guy did and bust the border patrol's chops, you're going to get arrested for not cooperating with the law. you can remain silent all the fucking way to jail, where you can call your attorney or have one appointed by the courts. yes, you can remain silent and suffer the consequences.

as i said before, please, oh please, try this the next time you're pulled for speeding or a broken light. tell the officer you don't have to say anything because it's your "right". you'd better be wearing kevlar underwear for the overnite in the local jail. then you'll have lot's of rights.

just how many cousins in tennessee do you have again?

[Ferdinand]

I really don't see what the problem is here. If you're not breaking the laws then you don't have anything to worry about.

I really don't see what the problem is here...

If you are black, why can't you just agree to meekly sit at the back of the bus with the rest of your people?

If you're Jewish, why can't you just agree to wear this Star of David and allow yourself to be herded into cattle cars with the rest of your people?

If you're a woman, why should you expect to be allowed to vote when other women meekly stay in the kitchen where they belong to leave the voting to the menfolk?

If you're of the wrong gender, why do you think you should be allowed to marry the person you love?

If you're not breaking the law, why would you insist on standing up and rocking the boat, when it's so much easier to simply take the cowardly way out and meekly answer the question? Are you, or are you not, a US citizen?

Just answer, "Yes I'm proud to be an American citizen", and then we'll stop harassing you and let you go on your way. It's as easy as that.

But if you insist on getting all uppity and standing up for your Constitutional rights, then we'll drag you out of your car, kick your sorry ass, and show you what it really means to be an American citizen.

---

Can't you morons see how wrong it is to meekly roll over and allow others to trample over your rights?

Only stupid sheep believe, "if you're not breaking the laws then you don't have anything to worry about."

Courageous people stand up and fight for their rights.

[napabavarian]

This guy might have a legal point, but he is a total ass :loco: someone give him a bottle of Tylenol PM labeled "jelly beans"


I didn't see any just a reasonable question, and a premeditated desire to start a fight, he seems to be the :hitler:

[SamE30e]

That guy is a fucking torch. Just stirring shit. So what if he has to answer a fucking question.

[2002maniac]

It would be hilarious to see this douchebag quivering on the ground with a taser stuck in his ass.

[Ral]

I'm gonna re-post this...

The constitution prohibits unreasonable search and seizure, as well as self-incrimination. (Amendment IV and Miranda v. Arizona) respectively. checkpoints are constitutional, as Article IV, section 4 points out: "[...] and shall protect each of them from invasion". You might not agree with this, but the courts would uphold the existence of roadblocks as being necessary to secure our borders. Also, did you ever think that perhaps this road is known to be used by illegal traffickers? 40 miles is not really that far from the border. He is not questioned in a quest for evidence, nor is he accused of any wrongdoing. It's not any different than a police officer asking if you've been drinking when he pulls you over.

Also, he is not initially being detained. the agent is trying to determine if he is a United States citizen. When he refuses to comply, he is then outside the law and is detained until his citizenship can be established. Technically, he could be arrested for obstruction of Justice, so I think he got off easily. One of the Reserve instructor pilots here in Corpus is a Border Patrol helicopter pilot in Laredo, TX who takes fire while flying in support of the Border Patrol. What point is this guy trying to prove again?

And, before you complain about something being unconstitutional, read the constitution. If you're gonna argue something, at least know what you're arguing about.

Also, let's go to the source. Read this before continuing in this thread. It's funny to me how many people complain about something's constitutionality without having ever read the constitution.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html