Isreal bomb Gaza, killing 195

[Chisum]

well the Israelis are on the ground in gaza

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/...aza/index.html

News is reporting new terror threats against the United States. Apparently Homeland Security is busy today.

[Chisum]

What Hamas supported here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEx2vbCdyKk

The New York Sun
How Hamas Greeted 9/11
By STEVEN STALINSKY | April 5, 2006

Hamas praised the killing of thousands of Americans in the attacks of September 11, 2001, while saying Muslims could not have been involved - a similar response to those of other groups in the Middle East. Now that Hamas is running the Palestinian Authority, it is worth taking a second look at the terrorist organization's official press outlets' coverage of the attacks.

* "Allah has answered our prayers," Dr. Atallah Abu Al-Subh wrote in an open letter titled "To America," which appeared September 13, 2001, in the Hamas mouthpiece Al-Risala. The Hamas publication also directed messages to high-ranking members of the Bush administration:

* "Every time Dick Cheney and his girlfriend Condoleezza Rice ... admonish us [and] gloat at our misfortune, they incite more [violence against us]! We stand in line and beg Allah to give you to drink from the cup of humiliation - and behold, heaven has answered. ... America, you planted in the hearts of all men ... the seedling of hatred of you! You never considered that the day would come when the saplings would grow and put out your eyes ... at the top of the World Trade Center ...Those saplings grew and spread and struck at the liver of the Pentagon. ... Don't you see that thorns have reached the eyes of your strong Secretary of Defense, Rumsfeld, who thought that he was too strong to be hurt by the thorns of vengeance ... Perhaps you realize, after Rumsfeld fled, that he is only an ordinary man," Al-Risala contributors wrote shortly after the attacks.

* "The Jews infiltrated the American Army, particularly the Air Force and they pressured pilots to take the planes, knowing that religion is not denoted in the identity cards of those joining the American military. Accordingly the airplanes were [controlled] by the Jews. ... Why is Bush ignoring these facts.... Don't act like you don't know who is behind the recent events..." a Hamas activist, Yussef Al-'Azam, wrote in a Hamas newspaper, Al-Sabil, on October 4, 2001.

* "Should I greet you [anthrax], or should I curse you ... I will begin by saying: Oh Anthrax ... you have sown horror in the heart of the lady of arrogance ... you have entered the most fortified of places; [you have entered] the White House and they left it like horrified mice," a November 1, 2001, editorial in Al-Risala headlined, "To Anthrax," said. The letter also belittled the American military and concluded by blessing the attacks on America:

* "The Pentagon was a monster before you entered its corridors. ... And behold, it now transpires that is men are of paper and its commanders are of cardboard. ... This horror that you have sown ... in the heart of the bloodsucker [the America] makes me think as I do. ... Our hearts ... were filled with belief that Allah is capable of defeating America by means of the weakest of his earthly soldiers, after he used you to sow horror in their hearts. ... The Americans see you as an imminent attack that is about to shake the lady with the proboscises that suck the blood of ... peoples ... 'Allah bless you,'" "To Anthrax" continued.

* "How much hatred has [America] stockpiled. ... Were the eradication of its Marines in Lebanon, the destruction of its military headquarters at Khobar in Saudi Arabia, the destruction of the USS Cole in Yemen, the bombing of its embassies in Zambia [sic] and in Kenya, and the attacks on its soldiers in the Gulf ... not sufficient? The U.S. should have learned the lessons of history ... Today, the U.S. has treated the bitter harvest it sowed in the hearts of millions. Today, we ask: After this, will the U.S. [continue to] think that it is above the law?" the editor of Al-Risala, Dr. Ghazi Hamad, said in justification of the attacks days after September 11, 2001.

Some of the most vulgar responses to the attacks of September 11, 2001, were the celebrations in the Palestinian streets, including shouts of joy by women. Hamas' reaction to the attacks was equally as disturbing yet not really shocking.

[Massive Lee]

Come on Chisum. All you have been doing is to try to find excuses to legitimize Israel's State Terrorism. Because some arab terrorist groups are assholes, doesn't mean Israel has the right to be even worse.

Nobody here has been supporting Hamas' or Hezbollah's actions, while you have tried to make us believe it was perfectly acceptable to perform mass murders from Israel. Sorry, there's no excuse on either side. Want to stop the violence? Israel must simply give back the occupied territories to its rightfull owner, and realize that for every killing of an arab civilian Palestinian, or Lebanese), for every injustice they are perpetuating, another hatefull resistant is born...

[Chisum]

Come on Chisum. All you have been doing is to try to find excuses to legitimize Israel's State Terrorism. Because some arab terrorist groups are assholes, doesn't mean Israel has the right to be even worse.

Nobody here has been supporting Hamas' or Hezbollah's actions, while you have tried to make us believe it was perfectly acceptable to perform mass murders from Israel. Sorry, there's no excuse on either side. Want to stop the violence? Israel must simply give back the occupied territories to its rightfull owner, and realize that for every killing of an arab civilian Palestinian, or Lebanese), for every injustice they are perpetuating, another hatefull resistant is born...

Nice spin, but you didn't answer the questions.
Do you think George Bush is a terrorist? Is the United States is a state sponsor of terrorism in Iraq?
Yes or no will do. No more spinning please

[mrsleeve]

Israel must simply give back the occupied territories to its rightfull owner, .

even if it was the Palestinians land to begin with.

Not a good idea that will create a victory mentality and that would embolden these Islamoterrorist groups to get even more violent to get what they want. You know "hell if it worked once it will work again" type of thing. Would you give your barking dog a treat just to shut him up ???? If you do that then you have just taught that dog that he gets a treat for barking inappropriately an he will repeat that behavior when ever he wants a treat. and you will give it to him.

Ahhhhhh shit now I have gone a done it I am a racist because I compared wack job muslims to a dog. Well if the shoe fits


Not a good enough answer to you question ok then would you give your scramming 10 year old a bag of oreo's (is that a racist term I dont really know) 10 minutes before dinner because hes screaming his head off for them (I hope not). If you do that then you are promoting bad behavior and that doing something bad gets you want you want. You see my point now

so where would you propose we stop giving these groups what they want?????

[Massive Lee]

101 UNO resolutions concerning Israel.
Most are reprobations by the Security Council.

1. Resolution 42: The Palestine Question (5 March 1948) Requests recommendations for the Palestine Commission
2. Resolution 43: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Recognizes "increasing violence and disorder in Palestine" and requests that representatives of "the Jewish Agency for Palestine and the Arab Higher Committee" arrange, with the Security Council, "a truce between the Arab and Jewish Communities of Palestine...Calls upon Arab and Jewish armed groups in Palestine to cease acts of violence immediately."
3. Resolution 44: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Requests convocation of special session of the General Assembly
4. Resolution 46: The Palestine Question (17 Apr 1948) As the United Kingdom is the Mandatory Power, "it is responsible for the maintenance of peace and order in Palestine." The Resolutions also "Calls upon all persons and organizations in Palestine" to stop importing "armed bands and fighting personnel...whatever their origin;...weapons and war materials;...Refrain, pending the future government of Palestine...from any political activity which might prejudice the rights, claims, or position of either community;...refrain from any action which will endager the safety of the Holy Places in Palestine."
5. Resolution 48: The Palestine Question (23 Apr 1948)
6. Resolution 49: The Palestine Question (22 May 1948)
7. Resolution 50: The Palestine Question (29 May 1948)
8. Resolution 53: The Palestine Question (7 Jul 1948)
9. Resolution 54: The Palestine Question (15 Jul 1948)
10. Resolution 56: The Palestine Question (19 Aug 1948)
11. Resolution 57: The Palestine Question (18 Sep 1948)
12. Resolution 59: The Palestine Question (19 Oct 1948)
13. Resolution 60: The Palestine Question (29 Oct 1948)
14. Resolution 61: The Palestine Question (4 Nov 1948)
15. Resolution 62: The Palestine Question (16 Nov 1948)
16. Resolution 66: The Palestine Question (29 Dec 1948)
17. Resolution 72: The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
18. Resolution 73: The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
19. Resolution 89 (17 November 1950): regarding Armistice in 1948 Arab-Israeli War and "transfer of persons".
20. Resolution 92: The Palestine Question (8 May 1951)
21. Resolution 93: The Palestine Question (18 May 1951)
22. Resolution 95: The Palestine Question (1 Sep 1951)
23. Resolution 100: The Palestine Question (27 Oct 1953)
24. Resolution 101: The Palestine Question (24 Nov 1953)
25. Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid.
26. Resolution 107: The Palestine Question (30 Mar)
27. Resolution 108: The Palestine Question (8 Sep)
28. Resolution 111: " ... 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
29. Resolution 127: " ... 'recommends' Israel suspends its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
30. Resolution 162: " ... 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
31. Resolution 171: " ... determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
32. Resolution 228: " ... 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
33. Resolution 237: " ... 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
34. Resolution 242 (November 22, 1967): Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area. Calls on Israel's neighbors to end the state of belligerency and calls upon Israel to reciprocate by withdraw its forces from land claimed by other parties in 1967 war. Interpreted commonly today as calling for the Land for peace principle as a way to resolve Arab-Israeli conflict
35. Resolution 248: " ... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
36. Resolution 250: " ... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
37. Resolution 251: " ... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
38. Resolution 252: " ... 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
39. Resolution 256: " ... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
40. Resolution 259: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
41. Resolution 262: " ... 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
42. Resolution 265: " ... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
43. Resolution 267: " ... 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
44. Resolution 270: " ... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
45. Resolution 271: " ... 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
46. Resolution 279: " ... 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
47. Resolution 280: " ... 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
48. Resolution 285: " ... 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
49. Resolution 298: " ... 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
50. Resolution 313: " ... 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
51. Resolution 316: " ... 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".

[Massive Lee]

52. Resolution 317: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
53. Resolution 332: " ... 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
54. Resolution 337: " ... 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
55. Resolution 338 (22 October 1973): cease fire in Yom Kippur War
56. Resolution 339 (23 October 1973): Confirms Res. 338, dispatch UN observers.
57. Resolution 347: " ... 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
58. Resolution 3379: "...'establishes' Zionism as a form of racism and racial discrimination". Repealed by Resolution 46/86.
59. Resolution 425 (1978): " ... 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon". Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon was completed as of 16 June 2000.
60. Resolution 350 (31 May 1974) established the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force, to monitor the ceasefire between Israel and Syria in the wake of the Yom Kippur War.
61. Resolution 427: " ... 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon".
62. Resolution 444: " ... 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
63. Resolution 446 (1979): 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
64. Resolution 450: " ... 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
65. Resolution 452: " ... 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
66. Resolution 465: " ... 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
67. Resolution 467: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
68. Resolution 468: " ... 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
69. Resolution 469: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians".
70. Resolution 471: " ... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
71. Resolution 476: " ... 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
72. Resolution 478 (20 August 1980): 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'.
73. Resolution 484: " ... 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors".
74. Resolution 487: " ... 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility".
75. Resolution 497 (17 December 1981) decides that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith.
76. Resolution 498: " ... 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
77. Resolution 501: " ... 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
78. Resolution 508:
79. Resolution 509: " ... 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
80. Resolution 515: " ... 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in".
81. Resolution 517: " ... 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
82. Resolution 518: " ... 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
83. Resolution 520: " ... 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
84. Resolution 573: " ... 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters.
85. Resolution 587 " ... 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
86. Resolution 592: " ... 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
87. Resolution 605: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians.
88. Resolution 607: " ... 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
89. Resolution 608: " ... 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
90. Resolution 636: " ... 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
91. Resolution 641: " ... 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
92. Resolution 672: " ... 'condemns' Israel for "violence against Palestinians" at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
93. Resolution 673: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations.
94. Resolution 681: " ... 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians.
95. Resolution 694: " ... 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
96. Resolution 726: " ... 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
97. Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
98. Resolution 1559 (2 September 2004) called upon Lebanon to establish its sovereignty over all of its land and called upon Syria to end their military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias to disband.
99. Resolution 1583 (28 January 2005) calls on Lebanon to assert full control over its border with Israel. It also states that "the Council has recognized the Blue Line as valid for the purpose of confirming Israel's withdrawal pursuant to resolution 425.
100. Resolution 1648 (21 December 2005) renewed the mandate of United Nations Disengagement Observer Force until 30 June 2006.
101. Resolution 1701 (11 August 2006) called for the full cessation of hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah.

[DCColegrove]

As it stands... I think you're all obsessed but...

Someday I'm going to read through this whole thread beginning to end...

Then I'll render my final decision.

[Chisum]

52. Resolution

The UN is a socialist organization. I think we ought to boot them out of New York and send them to Montreal. I could care less what resolutions they make.

Still haven't had my questions answered. Why are you dodging?

Do you think George Bush is a terrorist? Is the United States is a state sponsor of terrorism in Iraq? "Yes" or "no" please.

[Chisum]

As it stands... I think you're all obsessed but...

Someday I'm going to read through this whole thread beginning to end...

Then I'll render my final decision.

Hopefully before 2012 when the world ends. ;)

[bimmer_E30]

James/Josh please lock this thread. this is went way to far.

[napabavarian]

Have you thought of printing this out and selling as a book? It might be better than Hilary Clintons best seller. :neutral:

[Chisum]

James/Josh please lock this thread. this is went way to far.

Typical socialist liberal, don't like what you read, can't make reasoned arguments, shut down the thread, censor the speakers. Well, my Canadian friend, in America we have this little thing called the First Amendment. We have it because our founding fathers wanted to stop people like you from controlling what people say and what they read. Because once you go down the road of censoring speech, you become a fascist state. That may be OK with you, it won't fly too well here. If you don't like what you read, don't read it. That's a better solution.

[tofubento]

Go israel go!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!

[CorvallisBMW]

Typical socialist liberal, don't like what you read, can't make reasoned arguments, shut down the thread, censor the speakers. Well, my Canadian friend, in America we have this little thing called the First Amendment. We have it because our founding fathers wanted to stop people like you from controlling what people say and what they read. Because once you go down the road of censoring speech, you become a fascist state. That may be OK with you, it won't fly too well here. If you don't like what you read, don't read it. That's a better solution.

What makes you think he's a socialist liberal? All he did was call for the thread to be locked because it's never going to go anywhere, just get uglier and uglier.

Go israel go!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!!

I see what you did there.....