Valkyrie

[der affe]

i can't remember the actual German law number ETC (although from collecting i should remember it)
it does allow for the display and use of National Socialist symbols for historical and educational purposes. it does not allow for display for the glorification of National Socialism.

IIRC most of "the downfall" was shot in Poland. at least the outside street scenes. it tells you in the extras/making of part of the DVD

i am going to see if i can came up with the actual number of the law

[bergie_318is]

sooo pissed of when i found out that tom was gona be the lead actor in this. and yeah he doesnt even use a german accent! daniel craig did in defiance (russian accent though), which i thought was a great movie.

just becasue tom is in this movie, it has put me off BIG TIME!

come to think of it, daniel would of done a better job anyway.

who else would of been better??

[Alkasquawlik]

sooo pissed of when i found out that tom was gona be the lead actor in this. and yeah he doesnt even use a german accent! daniel craig did in defiance (russian accent though), which i thought was a great movie.

just becasue tom is in this movie, it has put me off BIG TIME!

come to think of it, daniel would of done a better job anyway.

who else would of been better??

Defiance is out already? I've been waiting to see it, bu it only comes out in select theaters in 2 weeks.

[Maluco]

46 attempts to assasinate Hitler... I don't know what they were thinking choosing Tom fkng Cruise for such a role.

The law is Section 86a StGB. The wording can be found at the below...

http://www.germanlawjournal.com/article.php?id=797

Downfall was a great movie. Just watched Enemy At the Gates with my pops the other day... What's this Stalingrad you speak of?

[WhatWentWong]

The movie's article in Wikipedia says a lot about the trouble and redtape that the producers had to go through to get filming priviledges in Germany, and especially permission to display the swaztika for filming. A lot of locals whose front porches and balconies were summon to be used by the film were reported to the authorities for displaying the swastika...so it shows that the germans themselves are still really sensitive about this portion of their past.

[Farbin Kaiber]

not interested in this movie.

[der affe]

46 attempts to assasinate Hitler... I don't know what they were thinking choosing Tom fkng Cruise for such a role.

The law is Section 86a StGB. The wording can be found at the below...

http://www.germanlawjournal.com/article.php?id=797

Downfall was a great movie. Just watched Enemy At the Gates with my pops the other day... What's this Stalingrad you speak of?

thanks maluco, you beat me to it.

Stalingrad is a movie produced by the same director and company (i think) as Das Boot it is prob 15 or so years old.

go on youtube and you can watch it for free in pieces

[der affe]

The movie's article in Wikipedia says a lot about the trouble and redtape that the producers had to go through to get filming priviledges in Germany, and especially permission to display the swaztika for filming. A lot of locals whose front porches and balconies were summon to be used by the film were reported to the authorities for displaying the swastika...so it shows that the germans themselves are still really sensitive about this portion of their past.

it is kind of a weird thing there. my friends dad who was Waffen SS, really wanted to go back to Germany one more time before he died, but was afraid to because he could possibly be arrested. he had already served time after the war, like most of the soldiers after the war,and he had committed no war crimes. he died at 92 a couple of months ago. he still wore his Totenkopf ring around and would joke when ever a picture of Hitler came on TV and say, "there is my old boss"

[kishg]

just came back from seeing it despite the so-so reviews here.. overall i'd give it a 6/10. I too knew the historical version having been a WWII buff but was interesting to see it nonetheless. cruise was not terrible but not great either, i think his acting days are over. i think the plot (like the coup) lost steam in the last 10mins.. they could have made it more dramatic.

[deutschman]

i was in germany at the time they were shooting the film and they tried to kick tom out of germany along with the whole crew. im not sure why but i remember seeing it in the news while i was there.

[bergie_318is]

Defiance is out already? I've been waiting to see it, bu it only comes out in select theaters in 2 weeks.

mininova my friend.

id definatly reccomend seeing defiance, it has like a perfect balance between gun fights and just drama. its not to shoot em up. great story though!

[h0lmes]

You can watch the first six minutes here:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/mgm/valkyrie/

The oath at the beginning is really eerie and gives me the chills. It sets the mood really well for the rest of the movie.

[SamE30e]

I just cant stand Tom. It sucks, I know. Usually Im all over a WWII movie but I cant picture Tom being a nazi, and I cant stand him as a person so Im not even thinking of seeing this when it comes out on cable.


Mariano

He's annoying and nuts. That's about it, and he corrupted Katie Holmes. Normally I would have been all over that, but he made her crazy too.

[Ral]

the whole movie was disappointing. Tom Cruise did terribly (no attempt at German accent?!) and the directing could have and should have been much, much better.

[xLibelle]

saw it last week, the movie is awful!

here is my new take on it. you know how, in the movie, Tom is constantly trying to convince everyone that the bomb killed hitler? well this is the mental image i now get of Tom and Scientology.
What a disgrace of an actor and a pathetic existence that encroaches in my life.

I had an idea to do a fun web site but because his last name is so close to the automotive factor i was looking to center attention on, I'd be distraught if people got the shit confused with Tom.... uhg