GUN GUYS! So it begins

[gazellebeigem3]

Fuck this shit, im buying a Unimog and mounting a turret gun on that bitch.

ill be your gunner.

this is bullshit. to add to the car analogy, it would be like the goverment mandating that you may not own a car that has over 100 horsepower because a geo metro has enough power for anything you 'need' a car to do. you can still kill yourself with a geo, just like you can kill people with an unbanned weapon. the general public will not be affected by the ban (people will still be shot, i pormise), only the enthusiasts will, just like in the car example.

[tofubento]

ill be your gunner.

this is bullshit. to add to the car analogy, it would be like the goverment mandating that you may not own a car that has over 100 horsepower because a geo metro has enough power for anything you 'need' a car to do. you can still kill yourself with a geo, just like you can kill people with an unbanned weapon. the general public will not be affected by the ban (people will still be shot, i pormise), only the enthusiasts will, just like in the car example.

They did, remember when they had the "muscle" wars in the 50-60-70s? Well goverment wanted to step in and regulate the cars and the hp...but instead the automakers where smart and regulated the cars themselves...they all sat down and agreed to do this or that..I forgot the actuall name for what the agreement was, if anyone does know please post up.

Overall I think the goverment needs to just back the fuck off, and let people live their lives. The federal goverment orginal was setup to defend us from outside threats...not if we wear a seatbelt or not. :hitler:

[dlmpsy]

Ultimately it comes down to something being taken away. A group of people that consider themselves to be "wiser" than you or I. Individual freedom is a founding principle of this country, it has been for over 200 years. Should the government tell you what church to attend, or to stop attending? What newspapers are "approved", where to live, what you and your friends can talk about? Are you willing to give certain rights away to our elected leaders? I don't care if you will never own a gun, or have twenty of the scariest guns ever devised by man, as long as you aren't a threat to me or someone else. No matter how you feel about guns, you should respect and support my right to legally own them. It's a slippery slope when founding principles are fundamentally changed for political convenience.

[E30 Cabrio]

They did, remember when they had the "muscle" wars in the 50-60-70s? Well goverment wanted to step in and regulate the cars and the hp...but instead the automakers where smart and regulated the cars themselves...they all sat down and agreed to do this or that..I forgot the actuall name for what the agreement was, if anyone does know please post up.

Overall I think the goverment needs to just back the fuck off, and let people live their lives. The federal goverment orginal was setup to defend us from outside threats...not if we wear a seatbelt or not. :hitler:

US Carmakers underreported HP so buyers wouldn't get hit with higher insurance premiums.

For example, the Chevy L88 motor was rumored to make over 550 HP but was officially rated at around 425

Edit: Advertised at 430 HP, Actual was 550-570 HP

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/specs/l88/l88engine.html

[GaryE30]

In short, I agree with everything said by dlmpsy.

Too many whiny bitches with a voice are screwing things up.

[Money$hit]

ill be your gunner.

this is bullshit. to add to the car analogy, it would be like the goverment mandating that you may not own a car that has over 100 horsepower because a geo metro has enough power for anything you 'need' a car to do. you can still kill yourself with a geo, just like you can kill people with an unbanned weapon. the general public will not be affected by the ban (people will still be shot, i pormise), only the enthusiasts will, just like in the car example.

Im driving that bitch straight up and down Morse Road. Getcher flak jacket ready.

[der affe]

You don't need that.

yes, because i already own one. and i use it to varmint hunt.

[der affe]

i would be willing to back extremely stiff penalties for using a gun in the commitment of a crime. IE drug related, robbery, home invasion. if you really want to effect gun related crime (which is the mask the lay on these bills) implement a 1 strike law with no exceptions. use a gun to commit a crime, you are gone, done deal!

unfortunately it would over crowd the prison system. eventually it might work. regulating guns for law abiding people even more wont help.

people should be up in arms over this, for the mere reason that it is an inroad to modifying the constitution, no mater what side of the gun issue you are on. setting a legal precedence is the first step.

it becomes a slippery slope from there. do you really need the government to control more aspects of your life? i don't. i am just fine where it is at now.

i hunt, fish, shoot for fun/sport, and enjoy gun ownership. i do it all legally too. am i going to rise up and overthrow the government? i don't have any plans to.

those members from CA on here, have a different perspective on gun ownership because of the state they are from and it's gun laws. i can see your position on the lack of importance of guns, but based on your laws you should have the lowest crime rate in the country, right?
proof that extensive gun control works wonders and will solve the problem.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I love my state's gun lawz.

I want to move so I can own the stuff the new administration is prepared to ban from me.

[der affe]

move to AZ, most of CA has already anyways!

[Old'n'Slow]

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume none of you who have registered such indignant protest about this proposed legislation have bothered to compose an intelligent, thoughtful and succinct letter to your congressional representative urging them to not support it.....?

[mrsleeve]

^^^^^^^^^^

I have

I email every other day and will mail it every other week!!!!!!!!

[iamsam]

You don't need that.

(sorry for quoting an old post) but, "you don't need that", so therefore ban it?

[Vedubin01]

This comes up quite a bit, but just last year the Supreme Court ruled on District of Columbia vs Heller, that the government cant limit ones 2nd amendment rights. Though this was a huge win for the gun community it does not stop power hungry congressmen trying to pass a ban.

Being that the economy is so messed up and the war on terror is still going, I dont feel that a gun ban would be coming up so fast. The democrats still remember what happened when they passed the last one. They got voted out the next term.

I do feel that a ban will be coming but to think its coming in just a few weeks is more myth than anything else. This has been the gun industry hay days of late. Back orders extending almost 1 year out and many on the list above are going for astronomical prices.

They will never be able to disarm America. But they can limit the sales and tax the ammo to the point one could not afford to shoot. Im sure there will be a time that we will see this. So always by cheap and stack deep.

[Money$hit]

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume none of you who have registered such indignant protest about this proposed legislation have bothered to compose an intelligent, thoughtful and succinct letter to your congressional representative urging them to not support it.....?

Politicians are all corrupt and paid off anyway. Waste of time.