Tagging - Why Do It?

[Jand3rson]

To the OP:

For the same reason that you go to church and you're a Jesus Freak. Because it's what your into. It's what makes you happy.

I agree, that tagging your stupid gang name on the side of a public building is fucking retarded. But good graf is an art form, I don't give a flying fuck what the rest of you that talk shit about it think. I'd like to see you even try to do anything as creative and artistic as these guys can pull off. Just because it isn't your style of art, doesn't mean it's not art, and you have NO RIGHT to discredit it or the artists.

[nineohfour]

Tagging and Graffiti are totally different things. One is art and the other is garbage bull shit for waffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffleswaffles ass gangs and such.

Tagging:


Graffiti:

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[kroberts]

The Hispanic lads here in San Antonio use it to stay fluent in English.

[deutschman]

how many of you talk smack about graffiti, but yet have no problems or hesitation about littering whether it be the butt of a smoke or fast food trash. im not sayin graffiti is good and that i support it.

+1!

Is tagging mostly gang related or kids getting a kicks?

if you want to know more about graffiti watch a documantery on Sf graffiti called Piece by Piece and another good one is called Stile Warz.

it's a bit of both. tagging is what it sounds like. it is a tag that lets you know who wrote it and where they have been/came from, and/or what part of the city they claim as theirs. in san francisco there are big gangs like MS13 or tagging groups such as BKF that do tags to gain notoriety and "property." tags or "throw ups" are done quickly and in a slopy mostly ugly ways hens the name "throw up." I personaly do not like this form of graffiti.

here are some good examples of tags:




Grafiti is more of an art form and useualy is a larger mural with a theam that is painted over the cores of a day or more. there are many stages to painting one of these pieces and it is not easy. i have watched payed profetionals do it and it is amazing. if any of you have ever tried to spray paint something you will know it takes a lot of skill to get the lines sharp and crisp with out any drips or other mishaps. people who do these art pieces also use other forms of paint and do not relie on spray paint all the time. these pieces can be used to do many things from remembering a dead friend, to making a political point. my favorit graff artist is a guy called Banksy.

http://www.banksy.co.uk/menu.html

here are some good exapmles of grafiti:
v 2 a Banksey pieces on the wall in Palistien.

Tagging and graffiti are the same thing, don't kid yourself. If you are artistic than figure out a new way to express yourself. Anyone who keys a car has a limp dick, anyone who tags a public library has a limp dick.

see you you still don't get it. graffiti has little to do with the destruction of property. before you put up an ingnorant post like this read the thread and read up on the differences between tags and graffiti. in the taging/graffiti worls only little pubescent kids who do not understand what they are doing and are dumb asses paint on schools, libarys, and key cars.

[deutschman]

Here Is Some Banksy Stuff
I love what he does because he has good messages and used things such as singes and other people shity tags in his art work.

NY





England


read the small print lol


Some of his indoor art

[markseven]

To the OP:

For the same reason that you go to church and you're a Jesus Freak. Because it's what your into. It's what makes you happy.

:D You over simplify. People are "into" sports and music. Other people are "into" arson and cruelty to animals. Do you see the difference? You can be "into" anything you want as long as you don't infringe on the rights of others, hurt animals or destroy property that doesn't belong to you (I'm sure there is more, but this is all I can think of at the moment). Simply being "into" something does not give you the right to act on your impulses.

deutschman, thanks for the pics and info. You answered my question.

[DREWHALL]

Banksy's got some awesome stuff. I consider that art. Tagging.......not so much.

[Maluco]

[deutschman]

Piece by Piece

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0441781/

Director: Nic Hill
Genre: Documentary
Runtime: 79 min
Plot: Piece by Piece is a groundbreaking film that documents San Francisco's highly controversial graffiti art movement.

This documentary focuses on the graffiti art scene in San Francisco and the colorful characters that have been active and influential in expanding this controversial, and for the most part, illegal art form. The film does a good job of covering many different facets to graffiti and its diverse styles and purposes. The foundational reason for engaging in such an illegal and temporary expression of art, considering that 90% of the works featured in the film are now gone, is to simply put up your mark for self-fulfillment and in many cases to inspire other graffiti artists and people that will see their work. Throughout the film it is also made clear that most of the people that engage in something that is usually considered vandalism actually love their city, and is one of the very reasons they do it.

[TDE30]

seeing graffiti anywhere conjurs up thoughts of crime,lowlife,crackheads and irresponsible punks who have no respect for anything. keep that shit in the ghetto. it isnt art. fuck you

Blunt nailed it. You want art, get a fucking paintbrush.

[Ral]

I understand the argument that graffiti is art, and brightens up cities, but consider if you owned a business and depended on it for income by attracting prominent renters to the property. Or, consider yourself a businessman who has his building painted over the day before some important international clients arrive. Wouldn't you be upset?

oh, wait, this is R3V, I forgot. Fuck the establishment, yada yada.

If you passed out drunk and someone drew the Mona Lisa on your face giving a blowjob, then re-painted the Sistine Chapel (google it, kids) in a way that made a compelling, beautiful political statement, you'd still get all pissed off because your friends tagged you then you'd go wash it off. Explain to me how it's different.

[OrganicMechanic]

kinda sums it up

[deutschman]

I understand the argument that graffiti is art, and brightens up cities, but consider if you owned a business and depended on it for income by attracting prominent renters to the property. Or, consider yourself a businessman who has his building painted over the day before some important international clients arrive. Wouldn't you be upset?

oh, wait, this is R3V, I forgot. Fuck the establishment, yada yada.

If you passed out drunk and someone drew the Mona Lisa on your face giving a blowjob, then re-painted the Sistine Chapel (google it, kids) in a way that made a compelling, beautiful political statement, you'd still get all pissed off because your friends tagged you then you'd go wash it off. Explain to me how it's different.

i can't wait till i get old and pissed off! it always sounds like so much fun!

on the other hand if one of my friends had the skill to draw the Mona Lisa on my face giving a blow job (<blow job is two words!) while i was drunk and did a good job of it while not waking me up i would buy him all the beer he needed for the next night! then take a picture of my face, frame it, and sell it on ebay. lol

[Ral]

i can't wait till i get old and pissed off! it always sounds like so much fun!

on the other hand if one of my friends had the skill to draw the Mona Lisa on my face giving a blow job (<blow job is two words!) while i was drunk and did a good job of it while not waking me up i would buy him all the beer he needed for the next night! then take a picture of my face, frame it, and sell it on ebay. lol

Hey dude, if I owned a building like that and there was a tasteful work done on it, I'd leave it up if I could without hurting business. I'd just hire another artist to paint a note to the original artist saying "please, ask next time" or something equally tasteful and understated without disrupting the original design. But seriously, there's enough forward-thinking people in all areas that, with enough creativity and time this could be worked out so it would be condoned, and would become a permanent part of the cityscape. Everyone wants the same thing (beautifying and advancing their city, and bringing art to cities) more or less, so why not find a way so both sides can work towards that goal? (and yes, I understand it would take a massive effort on the part of city officials to open their mind to this, as many of whom are notoriously over-conservative.)

Also, if you think I'm old because of the way I write, I take that as a compliment. I'm not any older than many on the board, but given my job and goals in life the more professional I sound the better. Lastly, if you're going to correct me on "blow job" being two words, please don't use "lol" as a way to end a sentence. It hurts your credibility.

[CleanAzzE30z]

I would love it if you people read a little bit about sociology and human behavior through history, in general. Without bias. Its a great thing to be knowledgable in many things. That includes good and bad things. I speak from LOTS of experience. Ignorance is very unbecoming. One needs to be able to relate to other people. Just because to you it seems illogical to do something, doesnt mean that other people consider it so. Different experiences and influences impinge on an individual to do certain things. It leads to a certain way of thinking. Its that simple. You may not think it makes sense, because to you, it is illegal and it makes you cringe. But to others, its beautiful, and/or they have grown up or been taught that it is a great way to make a name for oneself in a very limited world. I like to give the example of what people eat around the world. One mans trash, is anothers delicacy. Once to take the prejudice out of the equation, it is easier to understand. If you were taught all through school by your peers that something is cool, then you grow up thinking that. I was in a gang by age 14 and majored in Sociology so I know from both sides of the issue.



Mariano