What if Jesus wasn't a white dude?

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  • Old'n'Slow
    E30 Addict
    • Nov 2003
    • 436

    #46
    Originally posted by Turf1600
    ???

    Science doesn't disprove jesus - only god.
    Yes, but since Christians believe Jesus IS God, they must deny any science that does not support their version of history.....

    I've yet to find a Christian who can answer this: IF Jesus was God, and therefore God practiced Judaism, then how can you now claim Jews are hell-bound?

    Also, please point to the place in the Gospels where Jesus unequivocally states "when I die, you are to promptly abandon the traditions I MYSELF PRACTICED, and create a new system of belief. Since I am not allowed to be specific (apparently) then you must guess about what it is I want and expect. Oh, and though I myself have lived a completely non-violent life, go kill others who won't believe your version of what I am." "Oh, and that stuff about giving you "a NEW commandment" about treating others as you wish to be treated and loving your enemies and all that.......yeaaaahhhh.......doesn't apply if your enemy doesn't immediately love you back....."

    I'm all for religious freedom, as long as it is kept FAR from government and is taxed like all the other panaceas people use to get through the day....

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    • mooseheadm5
      Grease Monkey
      • Apr 2009
      • 375

      #47
      needz moar blasphemy
      -P

      Moosehead Engineering

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      • TDE30
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2008
        • 7042

        #48
        Originally posted by Massive Lee
        There's no controversy to stir. The whole wotl of Christians is taking for granted that Jesus is a white guy. which doesn't make sense since he theorically is arabic. So maybe no blond hair, and possibly brown curls. Maybe more tanned than what he is usually depicted. The whole question is how come he has been depicted as a white dude? I guess that anybody, independently from his (her) religion can have an idea. Because just swallowing everything we are being told is pretty dumb.
        Okay, valid question, so you decide to not only ask a car forum but a car forum renown for sarcasm, penis references, and general immaturity?

        :neutral:
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        • decay
          R3V Elite
          • Oct 2003
          • 5637

          #49
          Originally posted by mooseheadm5
          needz moar blasphemy
          jesus did 9/11
          past:
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          • shmutzigE30
            E30 Mastermind
            • Oct 2008
            • 1680

            #50
            interesting topic / conversation you ask... im actually talking about this in school right now
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            • SamE30e
              R3V Elite
              • Sep 2007
              • 4319

              #51
              He's not white...
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              • Philo
                Ich esse kleine Kinder
                • Oct 2008
                • 3334

                #52
                From the cheap seats, Blunt is my favorite in this thread. Continue on.
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                • h0lmes

                  #53
                  Originally posted by mooseheadm5
                  needz moar blasphemy
                  Fuck Jesus.

                  Is that what you had in mind?

                  God does not exist, period. Atheism is a presumption, or the starting point. As an atheist, I do not have to prove that God does not exist, the burden of proof lies with the theist. When people wake up, start questioning their beliefs, and realize that belief in a deity is completely irrational, humanity will take a giant leap forward.
                  Last edited by Guest; 04-10-2009, 11:06 PM.

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                  • gazellebeigem3
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 3712

                    #54
                    as a black man, i am appalled by this entire thread.


                    ps moses was black

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                    • equate975
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 3382

                      #55
                      Jesus touched me in my special place...

                      What if dinosaurs had feathers?
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                      • Ray Smoodiver
                        Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 8809

                        #56
                        Originally posted by equate975
                        What if dinosaurs had feathers?
                        That would make raptor jesus more plausible.

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                        • Desaevious
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3810

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Ray Smoodiver
                          That would make raptor jesus more plausible.










                          /b/lasphemy.

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                          • Massive Lee
                            R3V OG
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 6782

                            #58
                            The second degree with this topic is that history has always been rewritten by people in power. During Stalinian Russia, people were disappearing from pictures when they started displeasing the government.

                            Closer to us, that huge continent now called America was "discovered" by Europeans, just as if nobody had set a foot on that continent before. Almost denying that aboriginal peoples were living there millenums before the white man.

                            So why did we accept that Jesus was white, and not black (Sarazin) or Arabic? Jesus (if he indeed existed - which is another topic) was also Jewish until he claimed he was God's son, and thefore the prophet, which displeased the powers in place (Jews and Romans).

                            Anyway, be assured that stiring shit ain't the goal of that thread. If we can't talk religion without killing each others, then we have a problem...
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                            • mooseheadm5
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 375

                              #59
                              Originally posted by h0lmes
                              Fuck Jesus.

                              Is that what you had in mind?

                              That pretty much covers it.
                              As an agnostic, I can talk about it all day long and not get perturbed. Jesus, who probably did exist due to all the historical record of him, was middle eastern. Dark skin, dark hair. Simple as that. The Catholic church is the cause of the white Jesus pics we all see today. They are responsible for sooo many of the misintrepretations of the bible and sooo many of the falsehoods that many people in this world believe. In short, I don't think Jesus would be thrilled with the Catholic church. Oh, and Jesus was a communist.
                              -P

                              Moosehead Engineering

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                              • iwillhunt
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 385

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Massive Lee
                                The second degree with this topic is that history has always been rewritten by people in power. During Stalinian Russia, people were disappearing from pictures when they started displeasing the government.

                                Closer to us, that huge continent now called America was "discovered" by Europeans, just as if nobody had set a foot on that continent before. Almost denying that aboriginal peoples were living there millenums before the white man.

                                So why did we accept that Jesus was white, and not black (Sarazin) or Arabic? Jesus (if he indeed existed - which is another topic) was also Jewish until he claimed he was God's son, and thefore the prophet, which displeased the powers in place (Jews and Romans).

                                Anyway, be assured that stiring shit ain't the goal of that thread. If we can't talk religion without killing each others, then we have a problem...
                                I think history taught today has righted a lot of the wrongs you mention. I live in the Bible Belt and am a Christian, but have been told that Jesus was not white but olive skinned, dark haired, i.e. what you're referring to as Arabic, for as long as I can remember. Furthermore, history books have been largely corrected to refer to the European oppression of the indigenous peoples of the Western hemisphere as just that.

                                People who think Jesus was white are simply ignorant, but the color of his skin is insignificant, really. If black people want to picture him as black, if brown people want to picture him as brown, etc. then so be it. The importance of Jesus is not contained in his appearance, but his contribution to mankind.

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