I don't feel sorry for this girl...

[Alkasquawlik]

you didnt read anything then...


""Undocumented students (in most states) cannot be denied admission to a college or university based on their immigration status.


Undocumented students are not required to show a state issued ID or social security card to apply for college admission.


Undocumented students are not required to show proof of legal residency or application for legal residency when enrolling in college. "

OK, maybe as a student they can't do anything against her, but she is still in THIS COUNTRY as an illegal immigrant. What do you not understand?!
Deport her back to her fucking country and let her come her through the proper legal channels if she so chooses.

[Wiglaf]

Calling me an idiot for assuming they don't pay taxes? Now THAT is retarded. And I'm not talking about sales tax.

Think about this for a second. If you are paying someone illegally, wouldn't you avoid leaving an IRS paper trail on it?

So you found a link saying 8 million people are dumb enough to do this, it doesn't make it any less retarded. And what % of people flying under the radar do you think this is? BFD.

[E30Kaiser]

you didnt read anything then...


""Undocumented students (in most states) cannot be denied admission to a college or university based on their immigration status.


Undocumented students are not required to show a state issued ID or social security card to apply for college admission.


Undocumented students are not required to show proof of legal residency or application for legal residency when enrolling in college. "

Yeah, that may be true in California, but here in North Carolina, I had to have a SS number to apply, and you can still go to a college if you aren't American, get a student visa instead of hoping the border, lying about your immigration status and driving around illegally.

[e30e]

Exactly he didn't read my post about Cali having stupid laws, just because it happens in Cali does not make it smart or right.

[ck_taft325is]

What part of California Colleges not being able to deny or refuse an application of admission based on being here illegally has ANYTHING to do with her breaking the Federal Law's we all must abide by? If she was Canadian, she still broke the law. Although, they arn't as cool so they probably wouldn't break the law...

I'll leave this thought here again:

Amnesty for all Illegals at the cost of a 15%-25% tax increase levied upon them for 10-20 years as time served for illegally "obtaining citizenship". Then a huge overhaul and reform on the immigration system to speed the process up to 5 days to 3 weeks dependant on criminal history. At most 3 weeks. This WILL allow criminals (genuine criminals) access to our country and citizens but also give way to a large amount of good, hard working people that want nothing but to better their families.

Or we go to Mexico and make it part of America. Or would that step on too many Liberal's toes?

[Dozyproductions]

I work in construction in Cali. The last crew I worked with, half were here illegally. They told me with some of their other employers that they got payed under the table while getting unemployment benefits from their fake social security numbers. Being first generation in America, I don't get why these people are so fucking retarded. Polish people (like myself) are considered the Mexicans of Europe in the U.K. but we all get there legally.

[87e30]

[Stephen]

1st

[///digitalme]

lol
i thought it was funny :D
anyways i hope this isnt you? lol?

[87e30]

You're late to the party.

Someone's already making fun of my picture elsewhere. ;) Hint: That's not me, at all.

[sonnyqm3]

They won't make enough to pay any real additional taxes, but the system will have to support them. This isn't difficult shit here.

1.well when they work then they rent an apartment/house right. so that makes a landlord get money to pay his mtg and his taxes.
2. when they work they shop and that helps our economy
3. when they work they buy a car. they have to maintain it/repairs, put gas in it etc etc.. so that helps the economy as well
4. they work at places that our lazy fuk americans wont. so that makes a business run and helps the economy.

I can go on and on about this. Also why does big U.S companies use China and India for labor now. simple answer, cheap labor since our lazy fuk americans think they should get paid more. thats why GM went bankrupt cause they were paying their productions employees $70 an hr and low end managers were getting $100k bonuses a yr.

This whats wrong with us U.S citizens nowadays, we are fukn lazy and very spoiled. What I also dont get is why do I see U.S citizens in every intersection or highway exit begging for money. They are a real problem cause most of them probably get welfare or s.s checks every month. We need to fix our citizens problems first and then maybe focus on the illegal aliens.

I hate to think that my tax money goes to some lazy fuk who doesnt want to work. He or she rather stay home fuk and make more babies to get more money out of hard working U.S citizens like most of us.

peace,

[mrsleeve]

1.well when they work then they rent an apartment/house right. so that makes a landlord get money to pay his mtg and his taxes.

Ok sure but you know what, those property taxes would have to be paid rented or not. And depending on how good of an accountant the property owner has he could even write off that property off as a loss. Moral of the story the Immigration status of the tenant has no bearing on the land lord or property taxes.

2. when they work they shop and that helps our economy[

Ummmm no when you barely earn enough to eat and make rent and the rest goes back to mexico that dose not really help that much.

3. when they work they buy a car. they have to maintain it/repairs, put gas in it etc etc.. so that helps the economy as well

Have you seen the shit most drive??? if a clapped out 83 ranger or 85 caviler that burns more oil than gas, has the door held shut with a bungee cord, tires so outta balance it looks like a midge dribbling a tire like a basketball at supersonic speed, 3 2x4's nailed together held on the car with plumbers strap as bumpers and windows consisting of Tyvek wrap and duct tape. If thats what you call a car and maintaining it. Oh yeah they dont have DL and therefore cant get Insurance all while driving on the same roads as you and me. Yeah thats stimulation to the economy. Buying gas and what not, yeah but you know what if some one else had that job they would be buying gas too.

4. they work at places that our lazy fuk americans wont. so that makes a business run and helps the economy.

Watch Dirty Jobs??? Americans will do every single thing the illegals will. I had to have flash cards in my fucking pocket when I had to work with a few with pic of tools on them to get me when I needed them. And that was too much to ask, they would look me right in the eye and ask why I needed it. FUCK YOU I AM IN THIS FUCKING HOLE TRYING TO GET SHIT DONE. WHEN I CALL FOR A TOOL FUCKING GET IT. I was nearly killed on 2 separate occasions cuz these fuckers would not do their job or speak English. Oh they would not get near any sewer work either all while I waded in day in and day out. When I threatened to quite and walked off. Thats when they were fired, and real help was brought in.

I can go on and on about this. Also why does big U.S companies use China and India for labor now. simple answer, cheap labor since our lazy fuk americans think they should get paid more. thats why GM went bankrupt cause they were paying their productions employees $70 an hr and low end managers were getting $100k bonuses a yr.

You are a fool to believe those numbers I will not go into this other than to say. GM went under because of the UAW yes, But more because the management ran the company into the ground. GM employees were not making 70 an hour try topped out at about 30 ish (with 25+ years in) and then 46-48 with benefits.

This whats wrong with us U.S citizens nowadays, we are fukn lazy and very spoiled.

that's a awfully large brush you are painting with. I suggest you shut you fucking pie hole. Americans are the most productive work force in the world, you want lazy look at Spain. We do more work per employee in a year than anywhere else in the world!!!!! get your fucking facts straight.

What I also dont get is why do I see U.S citizens in every intersection or highway exit begging for money. They are a real problem cause most of them probably get welfare or s.s checks every month. We need to fix our citizens problems first and then maybe focus on the illegal aliens.

Not gonna argue with this. But you do realize that many of those are professional pan handlers and make a good living outta it. No I dont condone it either.

Yes we need to take care of our own 1st, but that does not include more entitlement hand outs and govt programs and intervention. Govt needs to get the fuck outta our lives if it wants to help us, rather than control us.

I hate to think that my tax money goes to some lazy fuk who doesnt want to work. He or she rather stay home fuk and make more babies to get more money out of hard working U.S citizens like most of us.

peace,

There we get to something you are 100% correct on. I wonder what your reasoning is for this conclusion. Since it seems contrary to the rest of your arguments

really I would like to know

[dvs909]

any response to the actual facts?

A. They are criminals
B. Criminals should be arrested.
C. If a criminal is not American they have no right to be here.
D. They should be returned to their home country to be dealt with by their own government.




still waiting on your response to this digital.

[sonnyqm3]

Have you seen city workers during a job, they talk and bullshit more than they wk. I am talking about the ones outside on a construction site. Go to city hall and see how hard they work and yes they have great jobs with great benefits. They treat you like shit and dont really know what the fuk they are doing. You gotta pay for their mistakes, is that fair. Most of them are BLK.

My problem with ppl collecting welfare and s.s is that I see B_____ and P___ R____ in Chgo taking advantage of that shit. Mother fukers got baby daddies from everywhere and collect welfare. I just hate lazy people more than I illegal aliens. My dad always told me that a hard laborer is a better man than a lazy fuk who sits on his ass all day whinning.


Its seems like a lot of you guys here live in hick towns and dont really know about city living. I guess I am a lil more open minded since I dont live in a hick/trailer trash town.

I gotta ask one question, the government can stop illegals from entering but why dont they.

[dvs909]

I heard they have them pot smokers in the big city dealing their drugs.

living in the country doesn't make us unenlightened or clueless. i guess your a little more close minded since you refer to small towns as hick/trailer trash without knowing anyone in them.

when you refer to the govt, who do you mean? do you really think the govt is one big entity with one goal in mind?
its a fractured group fighting amongst themselves for their ideas. some members want the border shut, others don't. it is hard to get anything done in a environment like that. this idea of govt "oneness" is ridiculous.

city workers just demonstrate why unions suck balls.