Israel just doesn't get it...

[E-Thirty]

How about we add they are the only quasi-fascist military state in the area fighting the terrorists that want to kill us because we are allied with Israel. Israel isn't the only country they want to wipe off the face of the Earth.

Care to elaborate on such a bold statement?

[E-Thirty]

^So ongoing persecution is rendered moot after a couple thousand years? :p

[Massive Lee]

do any of you understand that Israel has constantly been attacked FIRST and when they retaliate they are branded the aggressors? In all the wars Israel fought, they we're attacked first, or were on the verge of being assaulted. How are so many of you blind to the truth?

Persecution has been the 2000 year old excuse.

[Massive Lee]

Its no secret that we are in the middle east for the oil.

Is there any US oil drilling in Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan or Syria? I think you are confusing two different topics.

[dvs909]

do any of you understand that Israel has constantly been attacked FIRST and when they retaliate they are branded the aggressors? In all the wars Israel fought, they we're attacked first, or were on the verge of being assaulted. How are so many of you blind to the truth?

[kronus]

Leave it to someone from California to not get it

I'm actually a Russian Jew from Moscow ;)

[reelop19]

Leave it to someone from California to not get it

[reelop19]

Its no secret that we are in the middle east for the oil. Hell, if any of you know anything about history then you know we helped start the oil industry over there when that area was a desert and nothing more. Now after meddling in that area for a while we've developed enemies who don't want us there. We survive on oil. I think I heard once that the average city wouldn't last more than 3 days if we had no more oil. So really there is no option but to keep meddling in the middle east affairs, especially if were not going to drill in our own backyard.

[Massive Lee]

You edited your post before I could quote it... :( But I agree with you on both wordings.

Yes. Indeed. I edited it and made sure it was clearly worded and not ambiguous. Christians. Jews. Muslisms. And the funny thing is that it is a fundamental human need to leave a peacefull life. But sadly, some people decide otherwise for you

[kronus]

How about we add they are the only quasi-fascist military state in the area fighting the terrorists that want to kill us because we are allied with Israel. Israel isn't the only country they want to wipe off the face of the Earth.

whooops

[reelop19]

How about we add they are the only democracy in the area fighting the terrorists that want to kill us. Israel isn't the only country they want to wipe off the face of the Earth.

[Naplm00]

for thoes who dont know why we are allies with Isreal:

1. They are a nation that we can land our planes in and use airspace in the middle east
2. They most likley buy the equivelant of ,all of europe's yearly purchasing, in military technology from us. This is one of our last true exports.
3. They have nuclear weaponry, and we gave it to them

[HellzMindPlaya]

It is sad what most religions make people do. There are extremists everywhere.

You edited your post before I could quote it... :( But I agree with you on both wordings.

[Massive Lee]

Isn't there some kind of sanction prohibiting ANYONE from building homes/new construction in Gaza but Israel ignored it?

You bet. They are called resolutions. There are over a hundred of them from the UN for the past 62 years (and most aren't being followed by Israel). Some resolutions requiring Israel to give back the occupied territories. Which obviousy never happened, hence the current incidents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel

BTW My comment from yesterday about Born again Christian was not meant to be a personal attack, but a way to explain the support that members of this group give to Israel. Both groups believe in Armageddon and the return to a Jerusalem "cleaned" from Muslims... Bush, per exemple, is a Born Again.

"George sees this as a religious war," one family member told us. "He doesn't have a PC view of this war. His view is that they are trying to kill the Christians. And we the Christians will strike back with more force and more ferocity than they will ever know." Critics charge that the president is blindly engaged in a crusade, propelled by a belief in Armageddon that will end in a geopolitical disaster. One has compared his faith to the fundamentalists of Islam. Another calls it downright "frightening." Do we have something to fear from Bush's obviously strongly held convictions?

It is sad what most religions make people do. There are extremists everywhere.

[ACMF74]

I tried to find a source of information that cannot be blamed for being sided.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-update1-.html

So, basically, here's a neutral description from what has happened in the past days. It's from a Jewish source, which indicates that not all Jewish sources are necessarely partial to Israel. And while, as humans, we tend to simplify things and put all people in the same bag, it is a false assumption to think that all Israelis think alike. There's a huge clash between Sefarats and Ashkenaz in Israel. Semitic Jews (Sefarats - from Asian Africa) are considered as second class citizens by the European Jews. Indeed, only from 1990 did a Sefarat had access to a higher rank in the governement. So let's not judge all Israelis as one homogenous bunch of people. Many of them want peace and want to give back Palestinans their stolen territories...

But reading many of the posts on this thread, it looks like the extremists are not all in the Middle East. ;-)

Isn't there some kind of sanction prohibiting ANYONE from building homes/new construction in Gaza but Israel ignored it?