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  • Aptyp
    R3V OG
    • Feb 2008
    • 6584

    #211
    Originally posted by Alkasquawlik
    Except all the Iranian Americans living in the states will be calling for Obama's/Isreal's head if this happens.
    Well, they can vote next time around :). Though for them, it won't get much better than a liberal in the office.

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    • Massive Lee
      R3V OG
      • Sep 2006
      • 6785

      #212
      Originally posted by dvs909
      im not sure where you two are traveling, but my experiences don't echo yours.
      Looks like you need to open up your eyes, dude. You have daily exemples of peoples using religious excuses to rationalize their "evil" acts. And none of the three main religions are exempt.

      Where do you want me to start?

      Lee
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      • dvs909
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Sep 2006
        • 1149

        #213
        i'd like you to differentiate people who simply use religion as an end to their own personal goals of power or wealth, and those who are actually true believers.

        its usually very easy to spot the difference.

        without religion, people seeking power and wealth would find another screen to hide behind. religion isn't the problem its the abuse of religion, and there isn't any good way to solve this issue.

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        • Vedubin01
          R3V Elite
          • Jun 2006
          • 5852

          #214
          ^^^ agree 100%
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          • ck_taft325is
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2007
            • 6880

            #215
            Originally posted by dvs909
            i'd like you to differentiate people who simply use religion as an end to their own personal goals of power or wealth, and those who are actually true believers.

            its usually very easy to spot the difference.

            without religion, people seeking power and wealth would find another screen to hide behind. religion isn't the problem its the abuse of religion, and there isn't any good way to solve this issue.

            A-fucking-men. People need to stop generalizing and really start blaming the evil men and women out there rather than God or "religion".

            And Lee's about as far from open eye'd as possible.
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            • briansjacobs
              E30 Fanatic
              • May 2010
              • 1278

              #216
              Originally posted by dvs909
              i'd like you to differentiate people who simply use religion as an end to their own personal goals of power or wealth, and those who are actually true believers.

              its usually very easy to spot the difference.

              without religion, people seeking power and wealth would find another screen to hide behind. religion isn't the problem its the abuse of religion, and there isn't any good way to solve this issue.
              my point about outwardly vs inwardly kind of echoes your stance. I am an athiest, but unlike alot of atheist I see a valid use for religion. Some people need it, and that is ok with me. My problem is with people that are holier than thou and god this and god that, but are ruthless in life and business and not caring about their actions.

              It is funny how I am perceived as being without morals because I am without god, but the reality is I have higher morals than most religous people.
              Brian Jacobs

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              • Massive Lee
                R3V OG
                • Sep 2006
                • 6785

                #217
                Originally posted by ck_taft325is
                And Lee's about as far from open eye'd as possible.
                Yeah. Sure. Now I need to convert to your religion to see the light. Right? Funny guy.
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                • briansjacobs
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • May 2010
                  • 1278

                  #218
                  Originally posted by ck_taft325is
                  And Lee's about as far from open eye'd as possible.
                  I think that was an asian joke
                  Brian Jacobs

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                  • E30Kaiser
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1790

                    #219
                    Originally posted by Massive Lee
                    Look for evil, and you'll find religion. Remove religion from fanatics, and they become good men.
                    This is one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever read. This is so awful it is hard to even fathom that someone would really believe this. Massive, you are the thing you hate the most, a fanatic, judgmental, missionary, just out to prove to people that religion is the source of all evil. You are just like all the crazy judgmental Christians you use as examples just with a different message.
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                    • ck_taft325is
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 6880

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Massive Lee
                      Yeah. Sure. Now I need to convert to your religion to see the light. Right? Funny guy.

                      Did I say that? I didn't say that. You don't need my religion, buddy. You've got your own. It's plain as day and you espouse all the bigotry you so "eloquently" claim to disdain. Now who's the funny guy, funny man?
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                      • joshh
                        R3V OG
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 6195

                        #221
                        Religion just gives them a reason to do the unjustifiable.

                        While I do think religion is a great evil overall, crazy bastards don't need religion to be crazy.
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                        • dvs909
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 1149

                          #222
                          Christianity, broken down and looked at very coldly, is a social tool. and a tool just like anything else isn't any better or worse than those who exercise control over it.

                          Islam i have a few issues with a few passages, but i don't know enough islamic theology to know how to interpret them

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                          • ACMF74
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 1245

                            #223
                            Originally posted by E30Kaiser
                            This is one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever read. This is so awful it is hard to even fathom that someone would really believe this. Massive, you are the thing you hate the most, a fanatic, judgmental, missionary, just out to prove to people that religion is the source of all evil. You are just like all the crazy judgmental Christians you use as examples just with a different message.

                            if that was the case I must be a fken lunatic out for blood because I'm a practicing Roman Catholic.

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                            • Massive Lee
                              R3V OG
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 6785

                              #224
                              You guys don't have much knowledge about what your Christian religion did. Remember the atrocities during the Crusades, the Great Inquisition, and all genocides in the name of God? North America, South America, Africa. Remember Serbia too?
                              Rationalizations of barbarian acts based on the Bible (Christians vs Muslims vs Jews, in all possible combinations). Internal fights between factions of the Christian churches having lead to bloody wars. The quest for power of all religious groups. Disgusting.

                              As I said. You don't need a book to tell you how to lead a good life.
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                              • sonnyqm3
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1144

                                #225
                                Muslims are always the ones getting attacked so when they defend themselves, they are called terrorist. lmao... But now the Jews do all this evil shit and its no biggy, cause everyone is so scared to stand up against them. They rule USA and a lot of Europe, so thats why its ok for them to do all this crazy shit.. I have studies all 3 books Torah, Bible and the Koran. They are very similar except the Koran has never been altered like the other 2 books. Majority of the Muslims follow the book but a minority of the other religion follow their book. 1 silly example thy shall not eat swine... fuck me but havent met one Christians that obeys that and very small percentage of jews follow that. How about staying a virgin till u get married. I have been here for all my life and after the age 18 I have only met 2 virgin females. Wonder why aids is so big in US and other non muslim countries.

                                So basically I am just frustrated with negative comments here about Islam all the time. I dont blame you guys since most of you are brainwashed by the media (jewish owned). Muslim ppl dont hate us americans they just hate the fukn policies...

                                I mean we went to war with countries for no reason, we are killing innocent civilians in AFG and Iraq. So why are we there does anyone really know. Israel is a big part of it just so most of know. Thats why we are hated by most muslim countries... I mean the Isralies contradict themselves all the time, they are on Irans ass for nukes but they deny having them. which the whole world knows they have them. I am not Iranian but fuck I would be like fuck you homie if you got it then I am gonna have it too. Pakistan has it, India has it, we have it and few others as well.

                                This is all about the temple of Solomon in Jerusalem, the Ashkenazi jews think they should build it back for the return of their messiah. Which we believe its the Anti Christ. Our messiah is Prophet Jesus and we wait for him to defeat the Anti Christ/Dajaal.

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