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    #46
    Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
    God is the creator and we/everything is his creation..
    ok, prove it.
    cars beep boop

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      #47
      Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
      God is the creator and we/everything is his creation..
      wow you convinced me. good job!

      no run along little sheep
      Brian Jacobs

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        #48
        God is uncreated, he is the creator.



        also this guy has a bit of an accent but I am sure you will understand him..

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          #49
          Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
          God is uncreated, he is the creator.
          Originally posted by kronus
          ok, prove it.
          cars beep boop

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            #50
            Well I dont want sit here and preach religion to guys but I have pasted a few links that you can view..

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              #51
              Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
              God is uncreated, he is the creator.



              also this guy has a bit of an accent but I am sure you will understand him..

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aszXCD2dPeE
              still waiting on the proof?
              Brian Jacobs

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                #52
                ok so you dont believe in god and I do. Thats fine but I have the advantage, let me explain.

                1. we die and there is no god, then you and I are good. no worries right..
                2. we die and there is god, your fukd and I am not since I was a believer..

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
                  ok so you dont believe in god and I do. Thats fine but I have the advantage, let me explain.

                  1. we die and there is no god, then you and I are good. no worries right..
                  2. we die and there is god, your fukd and I am not since I was a believer..
                  I will assume by the video links you are a Muslim, is this correct?
                  Brian Jacobs

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                    #54
                    yes I am a non (fanatic) muslim, figure I throw that in there before I get bashed. So yes I am Muslim/Afghan/American and I believe god is the creator and we are his creations.. You express what you believe so I express what I believe. If no god then we both are good but if there is a god then you are fukd...

                    anyways hope you guys find all ur answers with proper research..

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
                      yes I am a non (fanatic) muslim, figure I throw that in there before I get bashed. So yes I am Muslim/Afghan/American and I believe god is the creator and we are his creations.. You express what you believe so I express what I believe. If no god then we both are good but if there is a god then you are fukd...

                      anyways hope you guys find all ur answers with proper research..
                      Do you think that maybe your beliefs are rooted in ignorance?

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                        #56
                        No I believe my beliefs are based on my faith. I have been in the states for 27yrs and 90% of my friends are non muslims, so as a kid and a young adult I did question my religion.. So not being ignorant I studied other religions.. I came to the conclusion that Islam was best for me since it made sense to me. I respect other religions but dont agree with them 100%..

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
                          yes I am a non (fanatic) muslim, figure I throw that in there before I get bashed. So yes I am Muslim/Afghan/American and I believe god is the creator and we are his creations.. You express what you believe so I express what I believe. If no god then we both are good but if there is a god then you are fukd...

                          anyways hope you guys find all ur answers with proper research..
                          so you are betting salvation on a 50/50 guess. I wish I could do that, the fact is my life would be much easier if I could believe, I wanted to, but I see nothing that points to anything other than a man made story to control or guide people in a direction.

                          I live my life with a high moral ground, higher than most religous people. I am 37 and have never done drugs, nor do I drink, I treat people well and volunteered my personal time to charities. But if these things are not good enough for God and I am screwed, but horrible people that believe in God are safe from damnation, than I am not sure that is a God that I would want to spend eternity with.

                          Christians believe that all you have to do is repent and accept christ to be accepted into heaven, so with that Hitler and Stalin in heaven but Ghandi in hell. I want nothing to do with that kind of God!
                          Brian Jacobs

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                            #58
                            Brian,

                            I never said it like that... I am not a Christian so i dont go to church and confess my sins to a priest/a man. I confess to god since he is forgiving.. There is laws in Islam and you must follow them and you will be awarded in heaven. But there is punishment that you have to face for the great sins that you have committed as well. Certain sins are not forgiven.. The only reason why I say that you will be fukd is that you are not a believer..

                            la illaha= there is no god
                            illallahu= but allah
                            muhammedur rasoolallah= prophet Muhammad is his messenger..

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by sonnyqm3 View Post
                              Brian,

                              I never said it like that... I am not a Christian so i dont go to church and confess my sins to a priest/a man. I confess to god since he is forgiving.. There is laws in Islam and you must follow them and you will be awarded in heaven. But there is punishment that you have to face for the great sins that you have committed as well. Certain sins are not forgiven.. The only reason why I say that you will be fukd is that you are not a believer..

                              la illaha= there is no god
                              illallahu= but allah
                              muhammedur rasoolallah= prophet Muhammad is his messenger..
                              How/why is Islam superior to other religions?

                              How can the Quran be perfect when it was written by a man, in a human language, translated into countless different languages and passed down over hundreds of years?

                              Why is Muhammad considered a reliable source of evidence?

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                                #60
                                Quran is the final chapter and the correction of the first 3 books. Quran was given to an angel by god and then given to prophet Muhammed pbuh. The original quran still exist and has never been altered.. We believe in many prophets starting from Adam to Moses, Jesus and finally Muhammed. Muhammed pbuh is the only prophet that actually succeeded with the message of god thru his preachings. Islam is the youngest religion but the fastest growing.

                                also search "prophet muhammad the most influential man in history".

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