Peanut Butter = Evolution is a lie

[mazur]

Humans are now gods because we can create life. Well, not technically from nothing, but still cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPE2CnThito

[briansjacobs]

That's basically what I said. I can't disagree with that other than I do believe humans evolve. just not at the rate Scientists guess at.
But I don't agree that all these different humanoids are related to us. Just different species.
The aliens theory makes the most sense.

it is interesting that as one species arises another one dies off, over and over, the question is this, in another couple houndred thousand years. wait nevermind Homo Sapien will destroy the planet before another human evolution can come about, or will that casue the next human evolution?

[LBJefferies]

That's basically what I said. I can't disagree with that other than I do believe humans evolve. just not at the rate Scientists guess at.
But I don't agree that all these different humanoids are related to us. Just different species.
The aliens theory makes the most sense.

Huh?

Listen, you guys are wrong about some things. First, there is no "rate" at which humans evolve. Humans evolve with every new generation which is different for every male/female pair. Some people have kids when they are young, others when they are old. Second, the term "missing link' is misleading. Technically, every new generation is a link in the chain. To have no missing links would literally mean that archeologists had unearthed every single ape skeleton. Lastly, evolution is ALWAYS happening. Every new generation is slightly evolved over the previous generation. Some traits take thousands or millions of year to show up, others only take hundreds. Procreation is everything with evolution. When people refer to it as "survival of the fittest" it should actually be referred to as "survival of the procreating."

[joshh]

that is nothing religious or evolutionary. we do see it in animals. less food or less nutritional food = smaller animals. diet affects average height pretty severely. the average peasant in europe during the middle ages ate cabbage. 24/7. the museum of natural history has a graph of average height, compared to diet, for 6-8 different periods in human history. results are not bewildering.

its not evolutionary. evolutionary takes place over thousands of years. not a few hundred.

if evolution didnt create us, aliens did.

That's basically what I said. I can't disagree with that other than I do believe humans evolve. just not at the rate Scientists guess at.
But I don't agree that all these different humanoids are related to us. Just different species.
The aliens theory makes the most sense.

[briansjacobs]

let me note that when i said "different parts of human history" i meant "different parts of homo sapien history."

aliens are more believable than some omni potent all powerful creator being.

we have the same amount of proof for both subjects so neither is belivable to me. (bring on the conspiracy theories)

[Kershaw]

let me note that when i said "different parts of human history" i meant "different parts of homo sapien history."

aliens are more believable than some omni potent all powerful creator being.

[briansjacobs]

if evolution didnt create us, aliens did.

I still say we created both

[briansjacobs]

you can not just look at height of man as part of evolution, as my wife is 5'4" and there are men over 7' currently. Remember back to school there are the different stages of man that are different from each other and show a distinct evolution. These stages of man had different postures from eachother diggerent size heads for more or less developed brains and eyes. This studies are looking back over 4 million years where man was about 4' tall and the latest evolution into our current form of homo sapien is only about 120,000 years old.

[markseven]

Pretty simple, really.....

.....you see, there's genetic code in both sperm and egg, and the combination of the two, if all goes well, produces healthy, fully formed offspring. Coupled with responsible, loving parents who emphasize desirable behavioral traits while avoiding reinforcing undesirable behavioral traits, the combination yields children of above average intelligence and good temperament.

Dude......take some credit! An "intelligent creator" didn't raise her. You did. In the hands of lousy parents, she would not be the same child. If you were to suddenly die, the "intelligent creator" will not lift a finger to make life better for her. If the "intelligent creator" existed, we wouldn't need to buy insurance!

When I see my children and how they conduct themselves in public-their thoughtfulness and awareness, I know where it came from. It came from the high expectations of parents who don't sell their kids short and instead help them learn to think for themselves and behave in ways that are likely to help them make something of themselves.

Lots of lousy religious parents out there who teach their kids things that will damn them to a lifetime of ignorance and fear.

The biology amazes me. Incredible. That and the life that exists in my daughter's eyes. There has to be a Creator.

The ones that can't be proven are "theories" and not "laws."

Hence, the theory of relatively, but the law of gravity.

No kids here, but I can appreciate your sentiment on that subject.

Okay, cool.

Another whopper from Lee. Never ceases to amaze me. I'll be honest, I'd punch you in your snide face if you said that to me as the equivelant of a stranger. You've no place. It's disrespectful and rude.

Thanks dude ;) However that sort of comment is par for the course with that guy.

[Kershaw]

Man had an average height of around 5'6" or so in the middle ages to now being much taller.

that is nothing religious or evolutionary. we do see it in animals. less food or less nutritional food = smaller animals. diet affects average height pretty severely. the average peasant in europe during the middle ages ate cabbage. 24/7. the museum of natural history has a graph of average height, compared to diet, for 6-8 different periods in human history. results are not bewildering.

its not evolutionary. evolutionary takes place over thousands of years. not a few hundred.

if evolution didnt create us, aliens did.

[joshh]

with the exception of a few missing links, we are close to knowing mans begininings, But even with everything we dont know, there is alot more proof there then there is in a creator.

The only proof religion has are books written by man and nothing tangible to go with it

I agree with you there but for the sake of some Christians who made a somewhat valid point.
Man had an average height of around 5'6" or so in the middle ages to now being much taller. And that could be from nutrition and other environmental factors. But if we see it in animals, it's with humans as well.
I do believe in evolution over God but I don't rule out that evolution is not what we were created from. But just another factor of our evolution as beings in general.
But I do not believe we were created like the bible says. That just makes me laugh.

Any higher power that expects you be believe in them without real proof, doesn't really understand human beings. So how could they be the creator? If there really is a god then he will do what's needed for me to be saved, or give me that chance. Just saying that is really surreal for me cause I know he doesn't exist like that.

[briansjacobs]

I'll believe in god when he walks out from behind a bush and shakes my hand...then proves he's God.

Evolution on the other hand has been more than proven...just not entirely in man.

with the exception of a few missing links, we are close to knowing mans begininings, But even with everything we dont know, there is alot more proof there then there is in a creator.

The only proof religion has are books written by man and nothing tangible to go with it

[joshh]

I'll believe in god when he walks out from behind a bush and shakes my hand...then proves he's God.

Evolution on the other hand has been more than proven...just not entirely in man.

[mar1t1me]

Luke 22:49-51
When Jesus' followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we strike with our swords?" And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear. But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.

Healed.....I would think that were Jesus really God, he could have picked up the ear, spat some holy spittle onto it to "cleanse" it, stuck on the side of the man's head and commanded it to stay. Who knows? Maybe that's exactly what happened, but everyone was too grossed out by the details and said "no no no-you can't put all that in there-just say he was, uhhhh, healed"!

But since the Bible and other "holy books" cannot be downloaded in their pure form from Heaven or where ever, and have to come through fallible, imperfect man who has admittedly used the Bible et. al., as a "power tools" for centuries, writing and rewriting them to his advantage, we really don't know what the hell happened, do we?

I'm with Carlin on this one: look at the world as it is. Results like these do not belong on the resume of a supreme being. Results like these look more like the work of an office temp with a bad attitude.

[briansjacobs]

did he heal him, or did he regenerate a new ear?