WTF!!! Islam Mosque to be built near ground zero

[ck_taft325is]

Something that has to be cleared up in all of this mess is we're not talking about a Religion here. We're talking about killers. Murderers. While they may love to cloak their crazy in a pretty pink velvet turbine and call it religion or, "not so different from Christianity" as would make Lee giddy with joy as he claps his grubby little claws together, it's just not so.

Hamas is not a Religious group so much an organization of hell-bent killers that bait and switch folks with the hook of hatred and blame. They displace a boys hard life on the backs of American's solely because one has and one has not. This should not be apologized for by American's by it's very nature nor should it be furthered by these evil dudes.

So, let's clear the air and stop calling this a Religious thing.

And Josh, Obama is not a Muslim. While he definately has startling affections towards Muslim's, which on a whole are not bad people and he interestingly speaks often out of turn with falsehoods about the Muslim religion, he is simply, not a Muslim. By Muslim law he's claimed to be a Christian which is punishable by Death. There's numerous other laws and religious bullshit he's over stepped on. He's more along the lines of the Super underdog guy. He'll cheer for anyone that's an underdog and of mild color solely because it sounds good. Even if it is crazy or morally wrong/corrupt.

[briansjacobs]

In regards Obama, you guys failed at reading my post. I didn't use only that link that he is Muslim as a got you moment. The guys policies and MANY of the things he's done prove it and the clip was further proof. Just to set that straight.


And this is further proof that Liberals are putting this country in serious trouble. If the Mosque was entirely funded by Hamas you'd be okay with that?
Somehow you think it's not important where the money comes from.

we are not talking about me, we are talking about bloomberg. I think all business should be fiscally responsible, they should show where money is coming and going, be it Catholic, Muslim, jew. But we are not talking about me.

[briansjacobs]

CK, you kind of went of on a tangant there, so im not sure if you think all Muslims are members of hamas or what. It is as true as saying all priest fuck little boys, come to think of it, it is probably about the same %

[ck_taft325is]

Well not at all Brian. I don't think all Muslim's are Hamas. Hamas are not Muslim's in my book nor should they be regarded as such. Some tenants of the Religion that is Muslim are grey areas that I personally and morally don't believe are right on a base level. But this does not make all Muslim's Hamas in my eyes nor should it in any others. Hamas are dangerous folk that are less Muslim and more Terrorist. My point and case are that they should not be covered by the cloak of "Religious" and we should distinguish fully that they are not a Religion, but an organized Terrorist organization that uses Religion as a tool to harm other people and their own through hatred and slander. A gross perversion of something.

Now about Priests, while I can't hazard an accurate guess, I wouldn't if I where you go nearly that far. It seems very, very unlikely that those percentages are even remotely close. To say that maybe pedophiles in general in relation to the over all populace are about the same percentage of Hamas to Muslims? Sure, maybe. But to say what you did? Not sure what taste you thought it was in, but it wasn't really good if you follow.

[briansjacobs]

most jokes about religion are not in good taste, and I make no secret about my problems with chritianity and catholocism. With that said I still think there is a place in the world for them, Just wish there was not the need for them!

[joshh]

we are not talking about me, we are talking about bloomberg. I think all business should be fiscally responsible, they should show where money is coming and going, be it Catholic, Muslim, jew. But we are not talking about me.

Then it was pointless to point out that it was Bloomberg because that was what my post was about. I think the guy is fucking nuts to not care where the money is coming from.

[joshh]

Something that has to be cleared up in all of this mess is we're not talking about a Religion here. We're talking about killers. Murderers. While they may love to cloak their crazy in a pretty pink velvet turbine and call it religion or, "not so different from Christianity" as would make Lee giddy with joy as he claps his grubby little claws together, it's just not so.

Hamas is not a Religious group so much an organization of hell-bent killers that bait and switch folks with the hook of hatred and blame. They displace a boys hard life on the backs of American's solely because one has and one has not. This should not be apologized for by American's by it's very nature nor should it be furthered by these evil dudes.

So, let's clear the air and stop calling this a Religious thing.

And Josh, Obama is not a Muslim. While he definately has startling affections towards Muslim's, which on a whole are not bad people and he interestingly speaks often out of turn with falsehoods about the Muslim religion, he is simply, not a Muslim. By Muslim law he's claimed to be a Christian which is punishable by Death. There's numerous other laws and religious bullshit he's over stepped on. He's more along the lines of the Super underdog guy. He'll cheer for anyone that's an underdog and of mild color solely because it sounds good. Even if it is crazy or morally wrong/corrupt.

He's not Christian that's for damn sure. But it really doesn't matter what he is, the guy is clueless and proving he's totally incompetent.

[briansjacobs]

Then it was pointless to point out that it was Bloomberg because that was what my post was about. I think the guy is fucking nuts to not care where the money is coming from.

I think his point in saying he does not care is that he is defending the constitution and seperation of church and state. Saying he does not care is to say it is a fight I can not win so leave it alone.

[BraveUlysses]

And this is further proof that Liberals are putting this country in serious trouble. If the Mosque was entirely funded by Hamas you'd be okay with that?
Somehow you think it's not important where the money comes from.

You keep saying this as though it is an actual option, but you know the Feds would never allow such a thing, since it's highly illegal and monitored as part of the "war on terror."

He's not Christian that's for damn sure. But it really doesn't matter what he is, the guy is clueless and proving he's totally incompetent.

If it doesn't really matter why do you harp on his religion so much?

[KenC]

The constitution is in place to protect the Majority from the Minority (the minority being the elected officials). The reason the Constitution works is because of that reason so no it is not the other way around. Throughout history the voice of the people has always gone in line with what was right for America far more than the voice of the elected officials. So I say again if the people overwhelmingly oppose the building of that mosque then that trumpts a minorities freedom of speech right because the freedom of speech of the masses has spoken. It seems like simple math to me.

Bahahahajahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha.

Get an education. That is NOT how the Constitution works.

Again, make your way down to your local college and take a class on Constitutional law.

[BraveUlysses]

Bahahahajahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha.

Get an education. That is NOT how the Constitution works.

Again, make your way down to your local college and take a class on Constitutional law.

CAREFUL! You're arguing with a "newly minted libertarian"! He's got a lot of opinions, most of them poorly formed.

[markseven]

I think his point in saying he does not care is that he is defending the constitution and seperation of church and state. Saying he does not care is to say it is a fight I can not win so leave it alone.

You are putting a lot of words in Bloomberg's mouth.

[z31maniac]

Bahahahajahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha.

Get an education. That is NOT how the Constitution works.

Again, make your way down to your local college and take a class on Constitutional law.

He's shown time and time again he has a very poor grasp on reality.

CAREFUL! You're arguing with a "newly minted libertarian"! He's got a lot of opinions, most of them poorly formed.

Hammer meet nail!

[joshh]

You keep saying this as though it is an actual option, but you know the Feds would never allow such a thing, since it's highly illegal and monitored as part of the "war on terror."

And that's exactly why I'm pointing out Bloombergs opinion.

If it doesn't really matter why do you harp on his religion so much?

Adding my opinion to a thread asking who thinks he's a Muslim is harping? LMFAO. I didn't start the thread either.

[reelop19]

I love blanket statements from non-Constitutional scholars. The only people refuting this are the one's who have proven to be the most liberal on this forum. So thanks but no thanks. The Constitution protects people from the government. How hard is that to understand?