WTF!!! Islam Mosque to be built near ground zero

[BraveUlysses]

Oh come on you know good and well that most people only knew that this thread was gay. The other stuff is news to them but not New York Times news because this was accurate news. Oh snaps a shot at the illustrious New York Times. I'm on fire tonight

Master of comedy right here

[markseven]

Oh dear jesus......I'm missing part of my dick because of an unnecessary Jewish genital mutilation ritual performed in America by a Christian doctor. How could that be? We're too civilized for that!

And you really think Muslims have the corner on wife beating? Ever heard of domestic violence? Sure keeps the Po-Pos busy 'round here. The Christian Bible says women must submit!

Religion of Peace? Christianity? Oh this is really fuckin' peaceful:

31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD. 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

That's straight outa the Bible! Keep the virgins, but kill all the others! WOW!



Convert or die? So sayeth the Christian Bible:

2 Chronicles 15:12-13 (English Standard Version)

12(A) And they entered into a covenant to seek the LORD, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soul, 13but that whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel,(B) should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.

Any other comparisons between Islam and Christianity you'd like to hold up to the light? Pssst: they're both rooted in the same freakin' texts!

That's one part of the Old Testament. There are many, many more chapters about the Lord's dissatisfaction with the Israelites themselves, many of which were slain by famine, sword and disease.

85%? Really?

In India, there are still honor killings. Shall we ban Indian people from practicing Hinduism?

It comes down to this, fellas....

76.5% of American adults are Christian (52% Protestant; 24.5% Catholic).
• 14.1% do not follow any organized religion; they are Agnostics, Atheists, Humanists, Secularists, or have no religious affiliation.
• 1.3% are Jewish.
• 0.5% are Muslim, followers of Islam.
• 0.5% are Buddhist.
• 0.4% are Hindu.
• 0.3% are Unitarian Universalist.
• 0.1% are Neopagan (Druids, Pagans, Wiccans, etc.)
• There are many more small religions, each of whom are followed by fewer than 0.1% of American adults.

That's one half of one percent. I really don't think they're poised for a takeover anytime soon.....although you wouldn't know it from the ignorant paranoia displayed by the Mosqueteers.

All this should simply serve as proof that religion of any stripe is bad medicine indeed.

Whadaya think about this idea?

The majority, by far, is Christian. You can thank us for our generosity, compassion, and good faith we have here and offered to the rest of the world (Red Cross, hospitals, schools, famine relief, infrastructure, and foreign aid in general). Not to mention accepting immigration en masse. You can also thank us for the incredible shift in human rights world-wide. We're pretty cool, huh? :D

As for your link to the daily kos, it sheds light on your mindset. ;)

[mar1t1me]

That's one part of the Old Testament. There are many, many more chapters about the Lord's dissatisfaction with the Israelites themselves, many of which were slain by famine, sword and disease.

I can find lots of verses in the Quran about beauty and love and forgiveness and all that happy horseshit, too. :-)

The point was that the Bible has more in common with the Quran than most people think. Let's not forget they were both written by men as a way of attempting to enforce certain behaviors.

The majority, by far, is Christian. You can thank us for our generosity, compassion, and good faith we have here and offered to the rest of the world (Red Cross, hospitals, schools, famine relief, infrastructure, and foreign aid in general). Not to mention accepting immigration en masse. You can also thank us for the incredible shift in human rights world-wide. We're pretty cool, huh? :D

Human rights worldwide? You're kidding, right? We only go where it benefits us. We're fighting a war in Iraq right now because we have strategic interests in the area, not because we love them and want to spread democracy. Over 150 women (and 4 young boys!) were systematically raped in Rwanda recently. I don't recall seeing any plans for the US to invade out of Christian compassion.....

China has a truly checkered recent past when it comes to human rights, but they sell us stuff cheap, so we overlook the deficiencies....

As for your link to the daily kos, it sheds light on your mindset. ;)

I always check several sources before posting a link. I found that site while researching Fox News investors. It was my first, and thusfar, last visit. I used info found there to search further. That Prince is the second largest non-Murdoch family investor. You have to wonder why a wealthy Muslim Saudi Prince (Saudi Arabia= alleged home of 9/11 hijackers) would want a stake in a news company that sells itself as the voice of American (Christian) conservatives. One might also wonder why said Fox investor gave $27 million to families of Palestinian martyrs. Even the Palestinian government admitted "some" of the money went to families of suicide bombers.

This is a man who has bragged that he is so tight with Murdoch that he can have the news changed to suit him. He also stated that 9/11 was America's fault due to its Middle East policies.

So it's not a stretch to wonder if how Fox News' foaming at the mouth while stirring this GZ "Mosque" hornet's nest will benefit him in some way.

[markseven]

85%? Really?

In India, there are still honor killings. Shall we ban Indian people from practicing Hinduism?

It comes down to this, fellas....

76.5% of American adults are Christian (52% Protestant; 24.5% Catholic).
• 14.1% do not follow any organized religion; they are Agnostics, Atheists, Humanists, Secularists, or have no religious affiliation.
• 1.3% are Jewish.
• 0.5% are Muslim, followers of Islam.
• 0.5% are Buddhist.
• 0.4% are Hindu.
• 0.3% are Unitarian Universalist.
• 0.1% are Neopagan (Druids, Pagans, Wiccans, etc.)
• There are many more small religions, each of whom are followed by fewer than 0.1% of American adults.

That's one half of one percent. I really don't think they're poised for a takeover anytime soon.....although you wouldn't know it from the ignorant paranoia displayed by the Mosqueteers.

All this should simply serve as proof that religion of any stripe is bad medicine indeed.

Whadaya think about this idea?

I can find lots of verses in the Quran about beauty and love and forgiveness and all that happy horseshit, too. :-)

The point was that the Bible has more in common with the Quran than most people think. Let's not forget they were both written by men as a way of attempting to enforce certain behaviors.



Human rights worldwide? You're kidding, right? We only go where it benefits us. We're fighting a war in Iraq right now because we have strategic interests in the area, not because we love them and want to spread democracy. Over 150 women (and 4 young boys!) were systematically raped in Rwanda recently. I don't recall seeing any plans for the US to invade out of Christian compassion.....

China has a truly checkered recent past when it comes to human rights, but they sell us stuff cheap, so we overlook the deficiencies....



I always check several sources before posting a link. I found that site while researching Fox News investors. It was my first, and thusfar, last visit. I used info found there to search further. That Prince is the second largest non-Murdoch family investor. You have to wonder why a wealthy Muslim Saudi Prince (Saudi Arabia= alleged home of 9/11 hijackers) would want a stake in a news company that sells itself as the voice of American (Christian) conservatives. One might also wonder why said Fox investor gave $27 million to families of Palestinian martyrs. Even the Palestinian government admitted "some" of the money went to families of suicide bombers.

This is a man who has bragged that he is so tight with Murdoch that he can have the news changed to suit him. He also stated that 9/11 was America's fault due to its Middle East policies.

So it's not a stretch to wonder if how Fox News' foaming at the mouth while stirring this GZ "Mosque" hornet's nest will benefit him in some way.

My point is that the group you paint with a broad brush and vilify exclusively are the same people that afford the generosity and compassion that you can only speak about. You are happy to blame Christians for the turmoil in the world yet you cannot, due to an extreme level of hate, see the good side ;)

[mar1t1me]

My point is that the group you paint with a broad brush and vilify exclusively are the same people that afford the generosity and compassion that you can only speak about.

Huh?

You are happy to blame Christians for the turmoil in the world yet you cannot, due to an extreme level of hate, see the good side ;)

What good side?;) Since there is no evidence whatsoever that anything ascribed to any religion is the result of anything other than a superstitious belief in something no one has ever seen, claiming that good works are the result of a particular religion is specious at best.

[ck_taft325is]

And laying blame of BAD MEN at the feet of Good Men following their "superstitious" belief in something that "no one has ever seen" is ignorant and as Markseven has said, shows your mind set.

If you believe in nothing or truly don't care, then why the hard on for Christian's? Because YOU don't understand it then suddenly you condemn it? Or is it that no one has empirically proven it too you? Or are you just smarter than everyone else, specially them ignorant Christian folk you're rampantly putting down? You must see it to believe it? You don't like that people say you're held accountable for what you do? Only you can do hold yourself accountable ultimately? What is it exactly? I'm still trying to pin down and have been for awhile what you're underlying issue is. Why the animosity?

You see no good in the Christian faith then? You say there is no good? Period? I say by that perspective there logically can be no good from you. If you cannot or refuse to acknowledge what Christianity has taught and striven for by much of what Mark has already brought up, then you truly are blinded by hatred and unsound judgement. While you can lay the atrocities of bad men and all of the worlds failings at Christian's feet, you willingly ignore what God, who I realize you refuse to even look for in life, has done for many a people. And how do you do so? By demeaning them. By saying they need "crutches" and/or must be "weak of mind". By who's standards? Yours? Who are you exactly? Sorry, but you discredit yourself in the attempt to demonize and demean others.

I can't prove God exists. Much less to you. You want a un-debatable argument for God? I can't give you one because no such argument exists. Undisputable evidence? There is none without some simmer of an open mind and heart. You want some proof that God loves you? He never, ever has revealed himself in anyway beyond giving you life that he exists. Why?! Because you don't want him too.

Your insatiable hatred towards Christian's has worn tiresome and thin. Your reasoning has yet to move past jabs at their faith, intelligence or someone elses evil deeds. I could tell you a million ways Christ has enriched, changed and moved me from my own natural bent. But, you'd dismiss it. Because God often takes the least of people to show what and how he loves us. But you'd dismiss it, no matter who or what was said.

[Deutschland über alles]

I just wanted the last word on this. The world trade center mosque is bull-shit,and offensive to my culture.

[reelop19]

No I've got the last word. The people of New York overwhelmingly oppose it. That means this goes beyond the Constitution because the Constitution protects people from an unjust government but the people are allowed to rise up and decide in cases like this if going beyond the 1st amendment is necessary. And I trust the masses of people much more than the government. As long as this is what the majority of the population wants then that is how it should be.

[murad]

First amendment rights dont apply. well maybe they do but Fucking Jihad and Islam is not a religion.A so called "religion" that bases its teachings and funding on killing the lives of innocent ppl in order to reach a higher state of afterlife is not a true religion.

Where is the 100 billion dollars coming from to build the piece of shit...? Dont ignore the fact that its probably coming from sleeper cell terrorist organizations all over the middle east and the US.

islam is a religion and jihad is a call to all muslims to fight for their ideas but can you help it if one idiot calls it? and the money probably came from one of the middle eastern countries, my mosque was funded by Saudi arabia,

[Massive Lee]

As long as this is what the majority of the population wants then that is how it should be.

Great. What if the "majority" of the population wanted all negroes hanged and homosexuals exterminated? Is that enough to proceed? Now that's why there are laws based on fundamental principles, laws on which people voted and agreed on. And there's currently no law depriving peoples from their civil rights, depending on their ethnic origins or religion.

[LBJefferies]

No I've got the last word. The people of New York overwhelmingly oppose it. That means this goes beyond the Constitution because the Constitution protects people from an unjust government but the people are allowed to rise up and decide in cases like this if going beyond the 1st amendment is necessary. And I trust the masses of people much more than the government. As long as this is what the majority of the population wants then that is how it should be.

Um, no they aren't you dumb redneck. The constitution is the highest authority in this country.

[briansjacobs]

correct me if I am wrong but isnt the constitution in place to help protect the minority from the majority

[LBJefferies]

correct me if I am wrong but isnt the constitution in place to help protect the minority from the majority

Bingo!

[dj01540i6sp]

( I feel I have to say something ) ''God is Good''

What a Bunch of Retards in this World?

Not to long ago you had to ask a Preist for forgiveness not God, in this one kind of religion, what did they do rewrite the book???

If you take a humans life while taking your own that makes it alright???

Let he that has not sinned cast the first stone. ( Judgment )

When did we become the almighty?

Next in our court system you will start hearing. Oh but God told me to do it, and the law will become more lenient to kill, than it is to smoke marijuana.

[getouth]

We all need Jesus not Allah lol. Lets use this site for the purpose that it was designed for, DISCUSSING E30'S.

THANK YOU.