Chump for President

[nando]

welcome to my world for the last 8 years Nando

I called Bush a liar? When? He was dumb as a box of rocks - but I don't recall saying calling him a liar (maybe, it was ages ago). I wasn't a fan but he at least had my respect as president (even if he started 2 unwinnable wars and left office with our economy in smoldering ruins).

I question your judgement based on the statement above. I think you are a danger to your kids and family.

I'm a danger to my family.. wow, okay buddy. I'm not sure you know what a lie really is. I guess you can just redefine it as #alternativefacts and pretend you have a conscience.

[marshallnoise]

Love the buzzword world you guys live in. Madness.

[Wschnitz]

I don't agree bush was dumb, but he was definitely manipulated by his cabinet, and I think he got too much flak for the war(s). Lots of people definitely went overboard blaming things on him during obama administration though.

What I don't get is how people complain about that, then whenever something bad happens in our new administration, no matter how loosely tied to Obama, is immediately Obamas fault. Obama was not a perfect president (especially when it comes to peoples rights to anonymity, but Christ people, talk about hypocrisy.

[Wschnitz]

Love the buzzword world you guys live in. Madness.

Last I checked trumps press secretary is the one generating the buzzwords, not us.

[marshallnoise]

Last I checked trumps press secretary is the one generating the buzzwords, not us.

#alternativefacts

Really?

[nando]

do you need it on tape? Because Mrs. Conway said it.

buzzword or not, they're still liars.

[gwb72tii]

I don't agree bush was dumb, but he was definitely manipulated by his cabinet, and I think he got too much flak for the war(s). Lots of people definitely went overboard blaming things on him during obama administration though.

What I don't get is how people complain about that, then whenever something bad happens in our new administration, no matter how loosely tied to Obama, is immediately Obamas fault. Obama was not a perfect president (especially when it comes to peoples rights to anonymity, but Christ people, talk about hypocrisy.

it had been all Bush's fault according to Obama unless you have selective memory

i must say, it's pleasing to see you all squirm

[nando]

I don't agree bush was dumb, but he was definitely manipulated by his cabinet, and I think he got too much flak for the war(s). Lots of people definitely went overboard blaming things on him during obama administration though.

What I don't get is how people complain about that, then whenever something bad happens in our new administration, no matter how loosely tied to Obama, is immediately Obamas fault. Obama was not a perfect president (especially when it comes to peoples rights to anonymity, but Christ people, talk about hypocrisy.

There was a lot of stuff people blamed Bush for that I didn't agree with. And, some of the things with the economy were started before he was even sworn in.

FWIW, I did a search to see if I had ever called Bush a liar. In fact, I stood up for him when other people were saying shit about his impeachment hearings. That was almost 10 years ago..

[Wschnitz]

it had been all Bush's fault according to Obama unless you have selective memory

i must say, it's pleasing to see you all squirm

90% of the sources I find Obama "Blaming bush" are usually loosely tied clips of him explaining some of the results of the war in Iraq and how it destabilized the middle east, Including Syria. Which is a fact, thats what the war did, it isnt him just trying to blame bush for his problems.

In fact, Obama is pretty self aware about this blame Bush 'meme' Ill call it, and If I remember correctly made a bunch of jokes about it at white house dinners and meetings.

[mrsleeve]

Well let's all remember something here, the O man has been in charge for the last 8 years, T has been in the chair for what 11 days now. Many of the things that are going to occur for a little bit, are going to have been in the pipeline since and leftovers from the O man's term.

Let's just keep that in mind here, and hold Mr T to his own actions and orders for a little while. Obama invoked the "we inherited a mess" line many times and well into his 3rd or 4th YEAR in office, not as a joke either but official press releases and briefings

[z31maniac]

Wow. Productive debate.

[Kershaw]

Let's just keep that in mind here, and hold Mr T to his own actions and orders for a little while. Obama invoked the "we inherited a mess" line many times and well into his 3rd or 4th YEAR in office, not as a joke either but official press releases and briefings

It takes a long time to clean up a messy work bench strewn with 4 years of projects and it takes only a few hours to start making a complete mess of things. You're not comparing apples to apples.

Marshall, I'm chuckling to myself about your post on buzzwords. You're hilarious.

[decay]

welcome to my world for the last 8 years Nando

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

[decay]

Well you got the liberal tactic down of "repeat lies until they believe you" down pat.

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interesting statement from someone who consistently says shit without any kind of supporting argument and expects us all to just accept "because i said so"

[marshallnoise]

interesting statement from someone who consistently says shit without any kind of supporting argument and expects us all to just accept "because i said so"

Even if what you said had a modicum of truth to it, you wouldn't accept any of my sources anyway. The cry against Breitbart is just a regurgitation of what someone claimed/projected on them. Same for Bannon and Milo. Why should I dig up support against a position founded on falsehoods? Not playing your stupid game man. It's a distraction and nothing more.