Christians mock gays at shocking Easter service - **NWS**

[Bene]

I guess this belief will be proven to us all one day.

so they've been saying for the last 2010 years or longer.

[Bill 84 318i]

The fringe of any group, be it the westboro freaks, abortion clinic bombers, radical Islamists, or these guys, the public should be made aware that this element exists.

False equivalence much?

The "fringe" may pull stints like this because they want attention. Isn't it good they don't get it? Besides...the fringe should only get attention when it's a threat, or dangerous. This was just a silly, exaggerated display. Wake me up when "the gays" do something really evil.

[markseven]

False equivalence much?

The "fringe" may pull stints like this because they want attention. Isn't it good they don't get it? Besides...the fringe should only get attention when it's a threat, or dangerous. This was just a silly, exaggerated display. Wake me up when "the gays" do something really evil.

You're right, I shouldn't have lumped them in with terrosists. The westboro comparison stands though. And they get plenty of coverage.

[ck_taft325is]

False equivalence much?

The "fringe" may pull stints like this because they want attention. Isn't it good they don't get it? Besides...the fringe should only get attention when it's a threat, or dangerous. This was just a silly, exaggerated display. Wake me up when "the gays" do something really evil.

Ignore the problem and it'll go away?

[Bill 84 318i]

Ignore the problem and it'll go away?

Nah, religion is too powerful to ignore. :-P

[markseven]

False equivalence much?

The "fringe" may pull stints like this because they want attention. Isn't it good they don't get it? Besides...the fringe should only get attention when it's a threat, or dangerous. This was just a silly, exaggerated display. Wake me up when "the gays" do something really evil.

Actually, I did not equate the gay display with terrorists - I called them all fringe elements of thier respective groups. Your reading comprehension is as bad as my memory ;-)

[ck_taft325is]

Nah, religion is too powerful to ignore. :-P

Said it before and I'll say it again, it's not "Religion" (read: Faith) that's the issue. It's the people that in general are "bad". They would use religion, politics, people, faith, cars, games, sports, athletics... etc, for their own ends. As a sounding board to justify their own miserable little lives, etc... glossing over all of "religion" (again, read: Faith) with a big bad brand of evil is just as bad as the Westboro tards standing outside a dead young man's funeral spouting about God hating "fags".

And for clarification, yes, I just compared the Westboro idiots to generalizations to the "evils of all religion as it's nearly one in the same.

[markseven]

Said it before and I'll say it again, it's not "Religion" (read: Faith) that's the issue. It's the people that in general are "bad". They would use religion, politics, people, faith, cars, games, sports, athletics... etc, for their own ends. As a sounding board to justify their own miserable little lives, etc... glossing over all of "religion" (again, read: Faith) with a big bad brand of evil is just as bad as the Westboro tards standing outside a dead young man's funeral spouting about God hating "fags".

And for clarification, yes, I just compared the Westboro idiots to generalizations to the "evils of all religion as it's nearly one in the same.

Well put, Chris.

[Bene]

Said it before and I'll say it again, it's not "Religion" (read: Faith) that's the issue. It's the people that in general are "bad". They would use religion, politics, people, faith, cars, games, sports, athletics... etc, for their own ends. As a sounding board to justify their own miserable little lives, etc... glossing over all of "religion" (again, read: Faith) with a big bad brand of evil is just as bad as the Westboro tards standing outside a dead young man's funeral spouting about God hating "fags".

And for clarification, yes, I just compared the Westboro idiots to generalizations to the "evils of all religion as it's nearly one in the same.

In my mind, using the un-disprovability of an afterlife to fear people into doing shit is all one in the same.

[YeOldeBuggy]

Jesus doesn't actually exist. Or at least hasn't for 2011 years. Get over it.

Excellent way to stay on topic, bro. Does your cat also do your thinking for you?

Thad.

[Bill 84 318i]

Man, I had a smiley face and everything. I was just pointing out that we have different ideas as to what the problem is. Clearly religion is slightly more nuanced than "it's bad".

I think it's far too ingrained in people's lives and worldviews for its influence to be quantifiable. It's impossible to distinguish between outside influences such as religion and whether people are inherently bad. But "because *insert higher power here* said so" is pretty powerful, particularly if you don't believe in that higher power.

[YeOldeBuggy]

I think you have a pretty strong prejudice in place.

My hypothetical was what if it were Scientology or Mormonism that were targeted. Much different.

I apologize, I misunderstood, I think the representatives of both of those communities do enough for them. And yes, I have gotten to the point where I just about despise everything.

Thad.

[Kershaw]

how were they mocking christians? the "hunky jesus" competition? wow, you're right. that's directly intended to offend christians. i mean.. seriously. get the fuck over yourselves and stop being so butt hurt.

were they doing this in front of a church? were they doing this in some sort of christian holy ground?

i mean honestly... who the fuck cares? you guys need to get your panties unbunched.

[YeOldeBuggy]

how were they mocking christians? the "hunky jesus" competition? wow, you're right. that's directly intended to offend christians. i mean.. seriously. get the fuck over yourselves and stop being so butt hurt.

were they doing this in front of a church? were they doing this in some sort of christian holy ground?

i mean honestly... who the fuck cares? you guys need to get your panties unbunched.

I actually appreciate most of your posts, but in this, you're ignorant. They're having a contest on easter Sunday (I'm aware easters origin is pagan) when most christians celebrate the ressurection of Christ, and they're portraying him in the most vulgar and hideous manners possible, that right there is sacrilege, not to mention its a contest hosted by homosexuals, double whammy. So, learn some shit.

Thad.

[ck_taft325is]

Man, I had a smiley face and everything. I was just pointing out that we have different ideas as to what the problem is. Clearly religion is slightly more nuanced than "it's bad".

I think it's far too ingrained in people's lives and worldviews for its influence to be quantifiable. It's impossible to distinguish between outside influences such as religion and whether people are inherently bad. But "because *insert higher power here* said so" is pretty powerful, particularly if you don't believe in that higher power.

No, no, Bill. I don't want you to take what I said as defensive or even being offensive. I actually really, genuinely enjoy debating, talking and over all disagreeing or agreeing with you ;)

You sir, can actually carry on a fairly respectable (in most cases ;) ) conversation.