Californias new internet sales tax....

[e30e]

50 bucks per employee is not cheap unles ur a big chained rstaurant. I mean everyone down to the bus boy lvel will have to get it. It is an added cost and force many small businesses to foot the bill (when hospitality is already a meaningless/dead end indstrys). Besides the majority of restaurant here are immigrant owned who are already disadvantagrd for their inability to keep up with ever frivelous regulatios when they simply just want to provide a service and jobs and not have time to participate in local politics.

Such a policyis nothing more than another excuse for the state to collect tax revenue by forcing u to participate in a class and pay for a certification on food cleanliness. Dont we already have ppl that reinforce that? Aka health department? This cetificate wont make me feel anymore safer especially if a restaurant has been aroind for years

Yea because those small businesses won't force its own employees to pay for it, like arizona does to its businesses. I want people handling my food to take a common sense class, because common sense isn't common.

You post in this section all the time but yet don't have an answer to any of the countries problems. Rather than bitch and moan about things, provide a solution to add to the debate. No one is always going to agree with you, but if your going to post add something worthwhile to add other than "WRONG I don't agree because it doesn't make sense to me"

Your anti union, anti tax, anti everything, like a retard republican but yet don't add anything another than your 2 bitching cents. Nothing you posted is worth debating because its as deep thinking as a crayola box of 8 colors.

[mar1t1me]

So, some of you cry "NOT FAIR" when someone simply figures out how to collect a tax....

But yet you don't see how unfair it is to the local brick 'n' mortar business owner who is required to collect said tax, which makes it harder to compete when online sellers aren't required to do the same thing!

[z31maniac]

50 bucks per employee is not cheap unles ur a big chained rstaurant. I mean everyone down to the bus boy lvel will have to get it. It is an added cost and force many small businesses to foot the bill (when hospitality is already a meaningless/dead end indstrys). Besides the majority of restaurant here are immigrant owned who are already disadvantagrd for their inability to keep up with ever frivelous regulatios when they simply just want to provide a service and jobs and not have time to participate in local politics.

Such a policyis nothing more than another excuse for the state to collect tax revenue by forcing u to participate in a class and pay for a certification on food cleanliness. Dont we already have ppl that reinforce that? Aka health department? This cetificate wont make me feel anymore safer especially if a restaurant has been aroind for years

THe health department checks in on restaurants, yes, to assess if the REGULATIONS that were TAUGHT in the FOOD HANDLING class are being followed.

I bet most here who don't work in the food/service industry, probably can't tell you about the "Temperature Danger Zone", necessary time for something to become sanitized in a sanitizing solution, etc.


Gov't regulations are terrible! Think of all those stupid safety regulations being put on cars nowadays, those dastardly politicians.

Oh? What's that you say? Traffic fatalities have been falling for decades and are now at their lowest level since the 1940s? Nevermind, move along, nothing to see here.


I really wish some of you guys could draw the line between GOOD gov't regulation and BAD gov't regulation. Somehow, it seems "All regulation = bad" regardless of the effects of the regulation.

[mrsleeve]

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We have way too much regulation as it now dont you think???? Lets ditch it all and start over again with good well debated and thought out regulations that will get the desired results and minimize the unintended consequences, and intrusion into our lives

[bmwstephen]

Yea because those small businesses won't force its own employees to pay for it, like arizona does to its businesses. I want people handling my food to take a common sense class, because common sense isn't common.

You post in this section all the time but yet don't have an answer to any of the countries problems. Rather than bitch and moan about things, provide a solution to add to the debate. No one is always going to agree with you, but if your going to post add something worthwhile to add other than "WRONG I don't agree because it doesn't make sense to me"

Your anti union, anti tax, anti everything, like a retard republican but yet don't add anything another than your 2 bitching cents. Nothing you posted is worth debating because its as deep thinking as a crayola box of 8 colors.

I add to the debate by scrutinizing the viability of the argument by presenting real world scenarios. For the record, my argument about the health law is the California one is written so that the employer foots the bill.

[nrubenstein]

It makes sense. The state has massive debt, if the southern half secedes, how is the public debt going to be split up?

California would be vastly better off if it seceded and was able to maintain the economic status quo. Imagine how much better off their budget would be if they collected the federal taxes instead of sending them off to subsidize the flyover states.

I'm not saying that CA's government isn't fairly fantastically incompetent, I'm just saying that secession or expulsion are not really good for the rest of us.

[mrsleeve]

California would be vastly better off if it seceded and was able to maintain the economic status quo. Imagine how much better off their budget would be if they collected the federal taxes instead of sending them off to subsidize the flyover states.

I'm not saying that CA's government isn't fairly fantastically incompetent, I'm just saying that secession or expulsion are not really good for the rest of us.

Ummm correct me if I am wrong here but I thought CA is a beneficial state, as it receives more federal dollars in return, than it sends in to DC every year

[tjts1]

California would be vastly better off if it seceded and was able to maintain the economic status quo. Imagine how much better off their budget would be if they collected the federal taxes instead of sending them off to subsidize the flyover states.

I'm not saying that CA's government isn't fairly fantastically incompetent, I'm just saying that secession or expulsion are not really good for the rest of us.

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Ummm correct me if I am wrong here but CA is a beneficial state, as it receives more federal dollars in return, than it sends in to DC every year

You are wrong.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1397.html

[mrsleeve]

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Ahhh thank you, thats why I asked. Like I said I thought it was a beneficial state not a donor state. Simple as that.

[Pac1373]

lol, you guys have Jerry Brown as Governer...AGAIN...lol

Callifornia Uber Alles ftw.

Jello would be proud.

[Mercury[BKM]]

im glad cali people have to drive through west texas before they can make it out here to Dallas and the other glorious cities we have.

[z31maniac]

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We have way too much regulation as it now dont you think???? Lets ditch it all and start over again with good well debated and thought out regulations that will get the desired results and minimize the unintended consequences, and intrusion into our lives

Hence my distinction between good and bad.

[joshh]

So, some of you cry "NOT FAIR" when someone simply figures out how to collect a tax....

But yet you don't see how unfair it is to the local brick 'n' mortar business owner who is required to collect said tax, which makes it harder to compete when online sellers aren't required to do the same thing!

Except that that's not why Brown is doing it. It's for revenue, not to help local businesses.

Why are people feeling that they have to buy from an internet source that have to include shipping over a local place? The difference in the end, the amount of taxes maybe? In most cases shipping is less than the fucking taxes.
So what's unfair? The amount or even that there is a sales tax while you still pay a fucking income tax. It's called double taxation. Yeah, I'd say it's quite unfair.

[Wiglaf]

well, I doubt we will be fortunate enough to see double taxation go away. The issue at hand is that this is giving amazon an unfair advantage over the brick and mortar stores. Sales and property taxes are often the main source of money at the municipal level. Without bullshit traffic tickets there'd barely be enough to keep the roads paved.

And really the tax doesn't break even with shipping for a lot of what people buy. How often do you spend more than $100 on something that only costs $7 or less to ship? Most people price compare at the base price, then consider shipping or tax as an afterthought.. Unless the item is particularly heavy, expensive, or difficult to find. Or you ring it up to see over $30 in S&H.

I guess basically my stance is yes find a standard across the board way to tax buying shit online, or lose all sales tax everywhere. no in-between.

[87e30]

Gov't regulations are terrible! Think of all those stupid safety regulations being put on cars nowadays, those dastardly politicians.

Oh? What's that you say? Traffic fatalities have been falling for decades and are now at their lowest level since the 1940s? Nevermind, move along, nothing to see here.

Is this desirable?

If you answer no then you already disagree. If you answer yes continue.

Would you buy a dramatically unsafe car?

Would you expect others to?

Would you expect an unsafe car to succeed in the marketplace?

You don't need regulations... you just need to let people choose what they want.